2nd PCS build

Rack

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Hi guys,

It's been a while since I've had to come here, but its time for a new PC 8 years on as mine is starting to slow down.
I have a budget of around £1300 just for the PC, I don't need a mouse or anything, and I will be looking at a new monitor down the line.
Primarily used for playing MMO/RTS and turn based games, with maybe the odd AAA game thrown in.

Regarding the storage space, I am planning on adding my current Samsung SSD/WD black drive to the new build.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 2500MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,313.00 including VAT and Delivery

Thanks in advance for any help.
Rack
 
Scott

Scott

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Moderator
If you provide the link at the bottom of the list it allows us to go in and make changes without having to start from scratch.

What monitor is it you have? If it's 1080p I would lower the GPU t the 1660 Super at most. Even considering a new monitor in the future it doesn't make sense to buy the GPU now. Better to upgrade the monitor AND GPU at the same time and put the savings from now towards it.

With the M2 drive I would select the Evo if going for 500GB. It's faster overall. The 1TB Firecuda is where it really comes into its own.

With the PSU I would select the 500w TXm, it's just a better PSU overall. It's semi-modular as well so far tidier.

I would drop the cooler. The stock cooler is fine and the PCS 100 is noted to be rather noisy. It's not a step up from the stock one.

Everything else looks fine to me :)
 
Scott

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Which monitor are you thinking of purchasing or what sort of budget are you looking to spend? As a rough guide here is what would normally be recommended:

1080p up to 75hz - 1650 super
1080p over 75hz - 1660 Super
1440p up to 75hz - 2060 Super
1440p over 75hz & VR - 2070 Super
4k up to 60hz, Ultrawide up to 100hz & High end VR - 2080 Super
4k over 60hz,, Super ultrawide and Ultrawide 100hz+ - 2080 Ti
 
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I was looking along the lines of the Acer Nitro, that sort of thing. However, I'm open to suggestions :)
 
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I was looking around the £250-£300 range on Amazon the other day. If there is anything better/as good for less I certainly won't say no. I'm not that clued up on monitor prices though so I may well be waaaayyy out.

(I should probably have put this post up this afternoon, after I'd woken up/had coffee)
 
Scott

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Ok, now we're talking :D

There are a couple of things to consider.

£300 gets you a 1440p 144hz monitor (if you shop wisely). If you can eek it out to £350 you get a fantastic MSI 1440p 165hz monitor, which is great value.


Now.... this is where it gets a bit muddy. With such a fantastic monitor, you need a serious GPU to run it (2070 Super). The budget involved here is right on the ragged edge of what is possible. There is an angle though..... you have a current system with, I presume, Windows 10? If you transfer the license to the new rig..... you can get the unbelievable value review spec for £1400. I know this is £100 over budget regardless, but it's a SERIOUSLY powerful system. To manually configure anything even remotely close would be around £1800.

If you click this link:

PCSPECIALIST - Custom Computers and Laptops Built to Order

PCSpecialist is a manufacturer of high quality custom computers and laptops. Configure your ideal computer in just a few simple steps with a broad range available.
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk

Scroll down to the OS and remove the Windows licence then scroll down the bottom and add the silver warranty.... ti should come in at £1404

If that's a stretch too far, the MSI monitor is probably a waste for a 2060 Super GPU but it would still be a fantastic buy at the budget. Manually configuring a good PC, with a 2070 Super and no windows at £1300 gets this...

Case
CORSAIR 275R AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,315.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/gwjjJawuVc/
 
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Haha, I was definitely over estimating then. Thanks for the build, however, I think I would rather stick to 1440 @75 and drop the overall price.

I was wondering on your opinion of dropping to 1080p with the 1660/TI and upping the CPU/storage. and then next year/18 months time up the monitor/GPU.
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Purely for gaming on 1080p this is what I would go with. It has everything you could want and you can plug in any GPU for any level of gaming. Note this is a gaming PC with a 4 core chip. If you wanted more CPU power for multi-threaded games (some MMOs can be this way) bump it back up to the 3600 :)

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 3 3300X Quad Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.3GHz/18MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,004.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/WwG4vAbhJM/
 
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Thanks for all the help, I'll come back with some more builds and tweaks later on no doubt.
I've read and seen a few bits about the Ryzen CPU's wanting 3600 mhz ram. Is that something I should be looking into or is it really not that noticeable/important?
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Rack said:
Thanks for all the help, I'll come back with some more builds and tweaks later on no doubt.
I've read and seen a few bits about the Ryzen CPU's wanting 3600 mhz ram. Is that something I should be looking into or is it really not that noticeable/important?
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It'll take and use the 3600Mhz RAM but it's not a deal breaker. Anything at or above 3000mhz is absolutely fine. 3600Mhz is available in the config list though, you just lose the RGB element :)
 
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Cheers, in regards to the Mobo, would dropping down to the 450 be advisable?

Also do you guys know which brand for the PGU they use?
 
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Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Rack said:
Cheers, in regards to the Mobo, would dropping down to the 450 be advisable?

Also do you guys know which brand for the PGU they use?
Click to expand...

The B450 has an old chipset and lesser spec VRMs. The X570 is going to be directly compatible with the next generation AMD chips, the B450 is going to require a hack of sorts and it won't have the VRMs adequate to support the high end chips (at a good level, they will of course function).

Personally, I would take the hit and go with the X570. It fully depends on whether you plan to upgrade the CPU at any point in your ownership.

The GPU is usually Zotac or Palit. You would need to call up and ask though.
 
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Much appreciated. I think I've more or less decided to go with my original build but I've upped the PSU to the 550 txm and dropped the CPU cooler. I'll grab a new monitor in the next month or so, but I'll have a look around for a more reasonable 1440p 75 hz.

Thanks again, and once i've ordered in the next few days I'll let you know.
 
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Sorry, 1 last question for people before I buy tomorrow, is it worth the £9 for a couple of 120mm Exhaust fans?
 
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It will literally be for the OS (maybe a game), its why I dropped it to 250gb. I've got 2TB of SSD/HDD to go into it from my current PC.
 
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