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Thank you @phitol and @Oussebon !

Lovely catch 22 moment. i guess now is the hard moment of decision making ;) thank you!

Thank you. I have been reading former discussions comparing the Recoile and Defiance and comparing it to my specs. the two differences i noticed are the graphic card which you already pointed out and the battery. Do you you think there is something else i should know/ notice? thank you for the...

If i can ask another question - the Rcoile is slightly thicker (395.7 x 260.8 x 26.75mm) than the Defiance (398.6mm x 268mm x 19.9mm) does it make a difference in the cooling? thank you

That a good question regarding the 2070/2080. i will have to read more about it. regarding the storage that was my idea but your configuration sounds sensible. I didn't buy a new computer for quite a while so i didn't put to much emphasize on the m.2 versus SSD. Thank you so much for your time.

Rcoil - €2,200 Defiance - €2500 Thanks!

Dear people, i'm looking for a laptop to be used mainly for 3d work, rendering and architecture software. I wanted the Octane serious but i'm afraid it is too heavy for me. After the Octane my second choice was the DefianceVI but now i find the Recoil III RTX. I would love to hear some ideas...