Noise Level? and other questions

Crisie

Member
Hi, I have a couple questions about the liquid systems:
1) How much does the liquid coolant reduce the noise output of the system?
2) Does the system produce less heat due to the liquid coolant?


additionally, I just slapped together this potential build on the website for a fairly powerful gaming computer (first time trying to make a computer). What are your thoughts?
I do have a couple questions:
1) how much quieter/faster/just otherwise better, are the ssd's over hdd's (i have never had a computer with an hdd) Because you can get an hdd that is twice as big for about 110£ less in the computer?
2) how good is the sound that is built in (the 5.1 onboard)?

CaseCORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 570X RGB GAMING CASE
Custom Liquid Cooling Kit
Liquid Series Mid Kit - EKTubingClear Flexible Tubing - 10/16mm
Graphics Card CoolingEK FC Nickel & Backplate - For One Graphics Card!
Coolant ColourMayhems Pastel Raspberry Purple
LED Lighting50cm RGB LED Strip
Overclocked CPUOverclocked AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six Core (3.6GHz @ up to 3.8GHz)
MotherboardASUS® PRIME X370-PRO (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1070 - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Hard Disk500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
Power SupplyCORSAIR 650W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre USA Power Cable (Kettle Lead) (I am living in London but am from US)
Thermal PasteEK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating SystemGenuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaWindows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365Anti-VirusBullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
BrowserMicrosoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)Warranty3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)



I am open to any suggestions on any part fo the system as this is my first try at building a computer.
It is quite expensive at just over 2000£ It looks like a very similar system made without the liquid coolant system would only cost around1450£

The 2000£ price tag is quite intimidating, and I would like it to come down a bit (if there is anything in the build that is redundant or unnecessary please speak up) However, the noise level is a large concern to me and if the liquid coolant takes this down by a significant amount, it may just be something I have to choke down.

One more question just popped in my head:
1) how hard is it to set up the computer with two monitors? I have never tried this, but is it worth the 79£ that they charge for assisted setup?

Thanks for your advice :)
 
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SpyderTracks

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What will you be using the system for? What kinds of games?

And what monitor/s are you pairing it with, what resolution and refresh rate?
 

Crisie

Member
Hey spydertracks, The game I play the most of is World of Tanks (I want to run max graphics at 60fps with the new graphics overhaul coming in march), but I play a plethora of other games as well, mostly just whatever I am in the mood for, so I want it to run anything (reasonable) I don't have monitors yet, but the stet-up definitely will be one 4k monitor for the game and one lower resolution monitor for whatever else i need (varies depending on what I play). I don't know what refresh rate i will end up with, but presumably only high ones come with a 4k display.
Thanks for the question spyder :)
 

SpyderTracks

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Hey spydertracks, The game I play the most of is World of Tanks (I want to run max graphics at 60fps with the new graphics overhaul coming in march), but I play a plethora of other games as well, mostly just whatever I am in the mood for, so I want it to run anything (reasonable) I don't have monitors yet, but the stet-up definitely will be one 4k monitor for the game and one lower resolution monitor for whatever else i need (varies depending on what I play). I don't know what refresh rate i will end up with, but presumably only high ones come with a 4k display.
Thanks for the question spyder :)

4k displays are all 60hz currently, unless you're budgeting in over £2k just for the monitor. If factoring in 4k, the GTX1070 wouldn't be powerful enough, you'd need a minimum of a 1080ti. Plus at 60Hz, you really really HAVE to have Gsync, it will make the experience a whole lot better, but you're looking at around £500 for an entry level 28" monitor with those specs.

TBH, at your budget, a watercooled system just doesn't make any sense. The chip in that build would make you sad. For less cost, you could buy a review build Vulcan Pro which is an all round better build and significantly more powerful (see link below) and costs less, and would be suitable for 4k gaming out of the box:

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/reviews/

Watercooled systems are for overclocked systems, plain and simple, and extreme overclocks at that. If you're not pushing it to the total edge, there's just no need for custom cooling. Plus custom coolers still have a pump which is quite noisy, and there will still be all the case fans whirring away. You could order a simple air cooler like the Noctua and it would be quieter than any custom loop.

A few things to consider before you move any further.

P.S... setting 2 monitor is exactly the same as plugging one in, you just plug the second in to another port on the graphics card and that's it.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
You are paying an extraordinary amount for the custom liquid cooling. A truly huge amount.

This is what a similar system with regular cooling would cost:

Price £1,567.00 including VAT and delivery
Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/wgrJBH7nkC/

2) Does the system produce less heat due to the liquid coolant?
No, it will always produce the same amount of heat. The point of better cooling is that it dissipates the heat more effectively. However, other than having a quieter GPU during gaming load, there's hardly any benefit. And £500+ is a heck of lot to pay for a quieter GPU.

If you're absolutely desperate for maximum quiet, I suggest buying a regular system without a GPU, and buying and fitting your own GPU that has a closed loop cooling unit built in.

A system with a Noctua cooler, Fractal R5 case, RMx PSU will be pretty quiet.

This will also avoid the cost/hassle of maintenance that the open loop systems need.

And that's leaving aside the fact that the above build isn't well balanced anyway.

In all honesty, what Spydertracks says about the Vulcan Pro build and 4k gaming above is spot on.
 
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Crisie

Member
Thank you guys so much for the input, sounds like the liquid cooled isn't what i need atm, i'll check out those other "packages" spyder. This is my first try at a custom computer, my previous ones have all been pre built (second hand razers) so I have never had to sort through all of the specifics before.
 

Crisie

Member
Also, Do you think I would need a sound card, or would the onboard sound that comes with the computers be sufficient?
 

Crisie

Member
Another thought, sorry, I just tried to make a computer as similar to the vulcan pro one, just to see if it was cheaper, It seems that the vulcan pro was about 400-500£ cheaper, am I missing something? Is there some bad aspect of the vulcan pro, or is there just that big of a discount for ordering the pre designed one?
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Also, Do you think I would need a sound card, or would the onboard sound that comes with the computers be sufficient?

On board sound these days is excellent. Unless you have a 7.1 speaker setup or something or a DAW setup, there's really no need for a dedicated sound card.

Another thought, sorry, I just tried to make a computer as similar to the vulcan pro one, just to see if it was cheaper, It seems that the vulcan pro was about 400-500£ cheaper, am I missing something? Is there some bad aspect of the vulcan pro, or is there just that big of a discount for ordering the pre designed one?

The Vulcan Pro is a review PC which comes heavily discounted, but you have to order it as it is to get the discount. It's an absolute steal, well worth making a few sacrifices.
 
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