PC Build help/advice desperately needed!

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PARVENIO

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Hi guys,

Was recommended PCS by a work colleague when I said to him I wanted to get a desktop machine.
I am an avid gamer/graphic designer (logo design on adobe suite etc)/video editor (hoping to start a YouTube channel soon) and would like to get into streaming potentially.

I do really need some help regarding a build that would allow me to play the top/newer games on high-ultra settings at the best fps.

My current budget would be between £700-£1050

I have two monitors already so they would not be needed, but i would need keyboard and a mouse added into that price also. Also, an operating system (but this is not essential).

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advanced!
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Something like:



Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.25GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B350M-A (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
250GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND 2.5" SSD, (upto 550MB/sR | 525MB/sW)
2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,044.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/QS2WsKa9CZ/

An AMD R5 is going to be a much better bet than an Intel i5 for video editing and especially streaming. 16gb RAM will prevent you needing to worry about upgrading later and is probably sensible for graphic design/video editing type work. The SSD is fairly inexpensive but still a decent Sata SSD.

A 1060 3gb will handle games high-ultra, though you can always buy the system without a GPU and see if you can find a better GPU for £200 to fit yourself. It won't take long on google to find RX 570s for £200 if your favourite games prefer the red team.
 
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PARVENIO

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polycrac said:
What monitors do you have (size, hd?) and what games do you play?
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I have one ACER LCD GF246, and one BENQ GL2450HM so both hd (to my knowledge). Im a ps4 gamer atm (mainly play fifa on console and god of war) but on my laptop i have fortnite, the witcher. Im wanting to play battlefield, call of duty (maybe) your fpshooters, and for sure the latest gta. Are there any games youd recommend when i can decide on a system/build?
 
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PARVENIO

Member
Oussebon said:
Something like:



Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.25GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B350M-A (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
250GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND 2.5" SSD, (upto 550MB/sR | 525MB/sW)
2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,044.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/QS2WsKa9CZ/

An AMD R5 is going to be a much better bet than an Intel i5 for video editing and especially streaming. 16gb RAM will prevent you needing to worry about upgrading later and is probably sensible for graphic design/video editing type work. The SSD is fairly inexpensive but still a decent Sata SSD.

A 1060 3gb will handle games high-ultra, though you can always buy the system without a GPU and see if you can find a better GPU for £200 to fit yourself. It won't take long on google to find RX 570s for £200 if your favourite games prefer the red team.
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Thanks so much for this @ousssebon its a great help! Would you recommend I bought without a GPU? would there be much of a saving/difference in end performance if i did? (im pretty inexperienced lol so apologies if this is a stupid question!)

Also, just from my own 'digging' (by digging i mean watching random YouTube videos lol) i saw this build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgiPcNRDcfI

Im assuming that is way out of my price range, but performance wise would there be a huge difference (i dont want to replicate the build in the video btw, i was just curious!)
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I haven't looked in detail but if it's an 8700k, ROG Maximum mobo, 32gb RAM,. Asus 1080 ti plus the bits you'd expect with it, it's going to be ~£2500 for the PC, £900 for the monitor, plus the other bits.

You buying a PC like this would be largely a waste of money. Your needs are ultimately quite modest, so 32gb RAM probably won't net you any benefit, certainly not proportionate to the cost. A 1080 ti (Asus one he has being ~£800) is wasted on 1080p gaming. The high end mobo is a waste, probably even for that guy, never mind you or me.

There are different builds I might recommend if you had £1200 or £1500 but the kind of budget that guy has is for 4k gaming and video editing where you actually make your living off it.

Thanks so much for this @ousssebon its a great help! Would you recommend I bought without a GPU? would there be much of a saving/difference in end performance if i did? (im pretty inexperienced lol so apologies if this is a stupid question!)
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Well I actually got caught out by google shopping when I originally typed that. Thought there were RX 580s for £200. Turned out to be an RX 570 instead... So it's 6 of 1 or half a dozen of the other. If you can find a good GPU deal then by all means buy without a GPU and fit your own. But I didn't immediately see much better stuff out there.
 
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PARVENIO

Member
Oussebon said:
I haven't looked in detail but if it's an 8700k, ROG Maximum mobo, 32gb RAM,. Asus 1080 ti plus the bits you'd expect with it, it's going to be ~£2500 for the PC, £900 for the monitor, plus the other bits.

You buying a PC like this would be largely a waste of money. Your needs are ultimately quite modest, so 32gb RAM probably won't net you any benefit, certainly not proportionate to the cost. A 1080 ti (Asus one he has being ~£800) is wasted on 1080p gaming. The high end mobo is a waste, probably even for that guy, never mind you or me.

There are different builds I might recommend if you had £1200 or £1500 but the kind of budget that guy has is for 4k gaming and video editing where you actually make your living off it.

Well I actually got caught out by google shopping when I originally typed that. Thought there were RX 580s for £200. Turned out to be an RX 570 instead... So it's 6 of 1 or half a dozen of the other. If you can find a good GPU deal then by all means buy without a GPU and fit your own. But I didn't immediately see much better stuff out there.
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Lol wow yh i mean thats ever so slightly out of my budget...lol.

But no i did think it would be something more tailored to his lifestyle/line of work but looked cool none the less. If I could afford 1200, what would you recommend? Also before you answer that would you advise me to put in the extra 150 if I was able to? in terms of difference in performance/output to what you have already advised vs a 1200 build?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Wow, the R7 2700x is only £50 more than the R5 2600x. Thought it was about £100. So I'd definitely get that if you can stretch another £50 as it's very good for your uses, even if you don't go to £1200.

The GTX 1060 3gb PCS sell is ~£200. You can get GTX 1060 6gbs for ~£230. So I'd order without a GPU and get one of those - though I wouldn't spend any more than about £230 on a 1060 6gb.

Other than that, potentially the Frostflow 100 cooler, a WD Black SSD from the M.2 SSD Drive Menu instead of the WD Blue SSD above. Maybe the Corsair Crystal 460X case if you want to spend an extra £50 on tempered glass and a more upmarket case. maybe £13 on the B350-Plus motherboard for the extra expansion slots and I think a couple more USB ports.
 
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PARVENIO

Member
Oussebon said:
Wow, the R7 2700x is only £50 more than the R5 2600x. Thought it was about £100. So I'd definitely get that if you can stretch another £50 as it's very good for your uses, even if you don't go to £1200.

The GTX 1060 3gb PCS sell is ~£200. You can get GTX 1060 6gbs for ~£230. So I'd order without a GPU and get one of those - though I wouldn't spend any more than about £230 on a 1060 6gb.

Other than that, potentially the Frostflow 100 cooler, a WD Black SSD from the M.2 SSD Drive Menu instead of the WD Blue SSD above. Maybe the Corsair Crystal 460X case if you want to spend an extra £50 on tempered glass and a more upmarket case. maybe £13 on the B350-Plus motherboard for the extra expansion slots and I think a couple more USB ports.
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Is that on PCS for the r7 2700x? Also looking around at GPUs, i see the GTX comes as either MSI or EVGA would either do? Also based on a recent article, you can get free ssds with any GTX 1050/1060 purchased (240GB Kingston A400 SSD to be precise when buying a GTX 1060) Would it be worth buying?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
SSDs like the the A400 etc are what enthusiasts kindly refer to as 'trash tier'. It's better than no SSD, but if you have the money to buy one that isn't trash then I'd say it's worth doing.

The reason I suggested getting your own GPU was to save you money. If you can find a GTX 1060 6gb for £230 (and they are out there) that saves you ~£40 versus PCS's offering. The MSI and EVGA ones will be significantly more than £230 most likely. There are GTX 1060s out there that cost £320, and ultimately they all perform pretty similarly, so if shopping for your own GPU be very conscious of how much you're paying.

Is that on PCS for the r7 2700x?
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So with an R7 2700x, a fast SSD, larger HDD, and a better motherboard:



Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.35GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B350-PLUS (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
250GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/s R | 1600MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,221.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/z9pwetyqPV/


Or less, if you want to get a cheaper GPU.
 
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PARVENIO

Member
Oussebon said:
SSDs like the the A400 etc are what enthusiasts kindly refer to as 'trash tier'. It's better than no SSD, but if you have the money to buy one that isn't trash then I'd say it's worth doing.

The reason I suggested getting your own GPU was to save you money. If you can find a GTX 1060 6gb for £230 (and they are out there) that saves you ~£40 versus PCS's offering. The MSI and EVGA ones will be significantly more than £230 most likely. There are GTX 1060s out there that cost £320, and ultimately they all perform pretty similarly, so if shopping for your own GPU be very conscious of how much you're paying.



So with an R7 2700x, a fast SSD, larger HDD, and a better motherboard:



Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.35GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B350-PLUS (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
250GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/s R | 1600MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,221.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/z9pwetyqPV/


Or less, if you want to get a cheaper GPU.
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Brilliant, thanks so much for your help. Gonna look into placing an order this week!
 
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