Upgarde of PSU and Graphics card

Hi

First post so excuse me if I have used the wrong topic. Anyway I want to upgrade the PC I have had since 2015 with new PSU and graphics card.

Original spec of pc
i7 quad core 17-4790
Motherboard ASU H81MPLUS Micro ATX
Micro ATX case + 2 front USB
Power supply is a Corsair 350w VS
Graphics card is a GeForce GTX 750ti

I want to upgrade the Power supply to Corsair 650w VS and also change the graphics card for a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060. Is this a goer, easy to do and practical upgrade.

toolpusher said:

Hi

First post so excuse me if I have used the wrong topic. Anyway I want to upgrade the PC I have had since 2015 with new PSU and graphics card.

Original spec of pc
i7 quad core 17-4790
Motherboard ASU H81MPLUS Micro ATX
Micro ATX case + 2 front USB
Power supply is a Corsair 350w VS
Graphics card is a GeForce GTX 750ti

I want to upgrade the Power supply to Corsair 650w VS and also change the graphics card for a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060. Is this a goer, easy to do and practical upgrade.

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Is this a PCS build? Can you post your full specs from the order page?

yes it is heres the spec. I bought the GTX 750ti separate

Case STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA MICRO-ATX CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790 (3.6GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® H81M-PLUS: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Hard Disk 240GB KINGSTON HYPERX SAVAGE SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto
560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0
PORT
Power Supply CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2
FRONT PORTS
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Hi

I did post spec yesterday but it never came through . I did buy from PC specialist but already had the GeForce 750ti

Invoice Number: xxxxxxxxxxx Tel: 0333 011 7000 | Fax: 01924 650 922
Date Created: 20-05-2015 | Date Dispatched: 05-06-2015 PC Specialist Ltd
Unit 12 Jubilee Business Park
xxxxxxxx Jubilee Way
xxxxxxx Grange Moor
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wakefield
xxxxxxxxxxxxx WF4 4TD
xxxxxx VAT NO. GB 827 4395 05
Product Category Product Description
Case STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA MICRO-ATX CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790 (3.6GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® H81M-PLUS: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Hard Disk 240GB KINGSTON HYPERX SAVAGE SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto
560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0
PORT
Power Supply CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2
FRONT PORTS
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Windows 10 Upgrade FREE Upgrade to Windows 10 with all Windows 7 & Windows 8.1
Purchases*
DVD Recovery Media NO DVD RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year
Labour)
Delivery SCOTTISH HIGHLANDS & UK OFFSHORE ISLANDS / N IRELAND
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days

toolpusher said:

Hi

I did post spec yesterday but it never came through . I did buy from PC specialist but already had the GeForce 750ti

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Apologies this post appears to have sat in the Mod queue for longer than it should have. Approved now!

As for how easy it is, its pretty easy, you might get irritated about cable management but it depends on how patient you are Installing/removing graphics cards is simple enough (assuming you already know that as the 750Ti was yours).

steaky360 said:

Apologies this post appears to have sat in the Mod queue for longer than it should have. Approved now!

As for how easy it is, its pretty easy, you might get irritated about cable management but it depends on how patient you are Installing/removing graphics cards is simple enough (assuming you already know that as the 750Ti was yours).

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Thanks guys thats equipment ordered . Will update you how I get on.

You can probably run a 1060 off the 350W PSU.

Make sure whatever you buy fits in that case though. It's also a cheap case - is there anywhere you can mount additional fans in it? I'd be wary about putting any mid/high end GPU in there...

Oussebon said:

You can probably run a 1060 off the 350W PSU.

Make sure whatever you buy fits in that case though. It's also a cheap case - is there anywhere you can mount additional fans in it? I'd be wary about putting any mid/high end GPU in there...

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I have an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 fitted to the i7 cpu which makes a great job of keeping that cool. I have bought the 650 PSU now so I will fit it once it comes and see what temp the 1060 runs 70c-75c looks to be about the norm when on load?. I am not a serious gamer although I spend a lot of time on Eurotruck 2 using three monitors. Regards extra fans do you think I will really need them ?

The CPU cooler gets the heat off the CPU and into the case. The graphics card fans get the heat off the GPU and into the case (assuming it's not a blower fan). You then need the case to get rid of the heat from the case, or else the components just use their own hot air to try to cool themselves, which affects performance and lifespan, as well as increasing temps of other components like hard drives.

75 degrees on 100% GPU load is probably fine, assuming it's not having to throttle to maintain that.

I'm not saying it's impossible to have a GTX 1060 in the case, just that it would be very unwise to not carefully monitor temperatures in a case that cheap, and that anyone considering a new system reading this topic would be badly advised to buy one of the cheap engima cases for a 1060.

Oussebon said:

The CPU cooler gets the heat off the CPU and into the case. The graphics card fans get the heat off the GPU and into the case (assuming it's not a blower fan). You then need the case to get rid of the heat from the case, or else the components just use their own hot air to try to cool themselves, which affects performance and lifespan, as well as increasing temps of other components like hard drives.

75 degrees on 100% GPU load is probably fine, assuming it's not having to throttle to maintain that.

I'm not saying it's impossible to have a GTX 1060 in the case, just that it would be very unwise to not carefully monitor temperatures in a case that cheap, and that anyone considering a new system reading this topic would be badly advised to buy one of the cheap engima cases for a 1060.

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Thanks point taken regards the cheap case and i do want to cool the system as best I can. Can you point me in the direction of a decent case with extra fans that will do the trick. Case just needs to accept what is in there at the moment. I will be quite capable of changing cases my self. You can tell from my post I am not really a modder

A new case will require dismantling almost the entire system and reassembling it. I'd probably suggest just keeping an eye on temps + frequencies when you use the system.

Oussebon said:

A new case will require dismantling almost the entire system and reassembling it. I'd probably suggest just keeping an eye on temps + frequencies when you use the system.

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Funny was considering that myself as the ball and chain reckons I have spent enough for a while! So clean out case , change PSU, install GTX1060 and monitor temps using MSI Afterburner so I can get an overlay of the important temps while any games are running. Then if there's any problems reassess . Do you think thats the way to go?

Ah, I misread your post yesterday, I thought you'd already installed both the 650W PSU and the GTX 1060 and that those were the temps you were getting already.

In your place, I would install the 1060 once received and run it off the existing PSU, which ought to be enough (having checked before opening the GPU box that the model I had bought definitely fits).

I'd then run Firestrike or Unigine Valley/Superposition on a loop for an hour and see what the temps and frequencies are like throughout the period.

You still have the option to easily return the unopened PSU and buy a better case with the money, if that turns out to be the best course of action.

Oussebon said:

Ah, I misread your post yesterday, I thought you'd already installed both the 650W PSU and the GTX 1060 and that those were the temps you were getting already.

In your place, I would install the 1060 once received and run it off the existing PSU, which ought to be enough (having checked before opening the GPU box that the model I had bought definitely fits).

I'd then run Firestrike or Unigine Valley/Superposition on a loop for an hour and see what the temps and frequencies are like throughout the period.

You still have the option to easily return the unopened PSU and buy a better case with the money, if that turns out to be the best course of action.

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Thanks thats a good idea note Unigine Valley is bench mark software so will see what I get. I am away working at the moment and will be couple of weeks before I get back home to try this . Thanks for all the advice.