Windows 10 LTSC

Tony1044

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So I decided to put the latest version of Windows 10 LTSC (Long Term Servicing Channel) - what used to be their "LTSB" version. Before that, I'd only run it as a test in a VM so rarely every actually touched it and never gave it any real thought.

I've been running it since before Christmas and have to say, I can't understand why MS don't make it more generally available.

From a home-version perspective, I can understand it, as it doesn't have things like their tiles (so no advertising) and it doesn't update every 6 months but my god it's such a cleaner interface.

It's fair to say that I don't mind the tiles when they are there but going back to an OS without them, it's like stepping back to Windows 7.

Microsoft don't recommend it's used for a day-to-day general purpose machine (which they define as one where you intend to run applications such as Office) but even talking to them directly or more recently a licensing specialist, they don't really have a good explanation as to why that is - especially as it was originally intended as the OS of choice for the Enterprise.

Which only adds more to my confusion because I'm yet to actually see any Enterprise running it.

It still gets all the security patches you'd expect, of course.

I would say it feels snappier in use but I'd be reluctant to put that down to the OS itself over the fact it's a fresh install so will inevitably benefit from losing the buildup of garbage that you get over time.

As it is you can only legally get it if you have either a volume license agreement or subscribe to MAPS (I do the latter) and that, to me, is a crying shame.

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ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Interesting, I wonder what else is different apart from the lack of tiles? There's got to be more to it than that.

Incidentally, if you don't like the tiles in Win 10 Home or Pro you can get rid of them all, you can also customise them any way you want. One of the fist things I do following a clean install is delete all the bloatware and advertising tiles. Having used the UI for a couple of years (or more!) now I actually like the tiles, it's neater and more covenient than having a raft of icons all over the desktop.
 

Tony1044

Prolific Poster
Of course- other things that are missing include:

Edge, Cortana, Store, Mail, Calendar, OneNote, Weather, News, Sports, Money, Photos, Camera, Music, Clock, and the App Store.

No feature releases are ever offered - just security.

It is still basically Enterprise under the hood though.
 

Tony1044

Prolific Poster

But that is just that - eval software. It expires after around 120 days and there's no supported way to go from an LTSC eval to a fully licensed version of Home/Pro - just to Enterprise.

LTSC is only available via the mechanisms I described above.

Which is a shame as it's Windows 10 without a lot of the mostly pointless bells and whistles.

EDIT: Now I'm on the laptop not the phone, I can see it quite clearly says it's a 90 day evaluation.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
But that is just that - eval software. It expires after around 120 days and there's no supported way to go from an LTSC eval to a fully licensed version of Home/Pro - just to Enterprise.

LTSC is only available via the mechanisms I described above.

Which is a shame as it's Windows 10 without a lot of the mostly pointless bells and whistles.

EDIT: Now I'm on the laptop not the phone, I can see it quite clearly says it's a 90 day evaluation.


It is a shame, definitely, but I take "supported" with a pinch of salt at the best of times. There are ways around everything if worthwhile.

Out of curiosity, how does the telemetry look on this particular variant?

MS are absolutely adamant (Prince Charmiiiinnngggg) on trashing that particular version of the OS. That alone suggests it's worth a look :D
 

Tony1044

Prolific Poster
By supported I also mean legitimate. One major issue being that it uses KMS/ADBA activation methods. There are no MAK type activations which is the kind that is where you type in a key and activate online.

Not sure on telemetry - I block much of it at my edge firewall but a quick glance at traffic volumes dropped on that rule suggest it's pretty similar.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
By supported I also mean legitimate. One major issue being that it uses KMS/ADBA activation methods. There are no MAK type activations which is the kind that is where you type in a key and activate online.

Not sure on telemetry - I block much of it at my edge firewall but a quick glance at traffic volumes dropped on that rule suggest it's pretty similar.

I don't understand why they wouldn't release this as a Pro edition, seems to make serious logical sense, they could create a whole new revenue stream from it.

I'd buy it given the choice.
 

Tony1044

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I don't understand why they wouldn't release this as a Pro edition, seems to make serious logical sense, they could create a whole new revenue stream from it.

I'd buy it given the choice.

Totally agree. It definitely uses fewer resources as well in general day-to-day use. My CPU average is 1-2% and RAM is 10-14%. Previously, for doing the same as I am now (bit of browsing, notepad++ open and a couple of RDP sessions open were 5-6% CPU and around 18-21% RAM.
 
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