4k/Hd gaming spec advise

[davbir739]

Hi all,
Looking at something like the spec below. I already have an RTX 2080 Graphics card.

I mostly play GTA5, red redemption 2, grid, need for speed, COD and I use Oculus Rift.

My systems is showing its age, still running an AMD bulldozer.

Any advice appreciated. Thanks in advance
Case
THERMALTAKE V200 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900KS (4.0GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs WIFI - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
960GB ADATA SU630 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
Intel Optane Memory
64GB INTEL® M10 OPTANE MEMORY - USE WITH MECHANICAL HDD
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,568.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[Oussebon]

What's the Optane module for here? You adding an existing HDD into the build or something?

At 4k, you are going to be heavily GPU bound. There'd be no meaningful difference between an R6 3600 and an i9 9900KS apart from the ~£400-£500 hole in your wallet.

Also, a £1600 build with slow RAM - eek!

Avoid the V200 case, it's not good for airflow, as is the case with many cheaper RGB cases. Try the iCUE 220T?

 

[davbir739]

Got a 4tb drive will my games installed on it, not sure how the optane module works. wich ram do you suggest?
I just picked the bottom cpu , dont no anything about the different type TBH.
£1600 is ball park figure but id like most bang for my buck

Yeah my gpu is at 100% most of the time lol

wich case is that from the picture?

 

[Oussebon]

If your GPU is at 100%, that means it's what is limiting your performance.

Having the GPU at 100% is perfectly normal in gaming - it's what you'd expect, as less usually means either the CPU is bottlenecking it, or you bought a more powerful/expensive GPU than you need.

But that does mean that upgrading the CPU won't add much to performance, because it's not what is limiting how the game runs.

This gives a crude but fair idea of relative CPU performance at 4k for gaming:

(and that's benchmarked on a 2080 ti - the difference on your 2080 will be even smaller).

As you can see, once you get past the really weak ones, there's almost no difference...

So I don't think you should spend £1600 on a new PC.

If you're comfortable doing so, you can replace your CPU, motherboard, and RAM, with a new CPU, mobo, and RAM for ~£400. Moving from to a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU should clear any periodic bottlenecks from your Faildozer at 4k.

Or if you don't want to DIY it, something like:

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

Get 3 Months of XBOX Game Pass for PC w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3400MB/s R | 2800MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £807.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/fAkwkECxqJ/



I just don't see it being worth £700+ more for the i9 on a very expensive mobo for 4k.

Or if you want to really splash out: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/6bEw3k!ZGz/ (£1061, R7 CPU, X570 mobo with PCIe 4.0, and some RGB RAM.

 

[davbir739]

Thanks for the advice.

definitely helped and saved me money

👍

 

[davbir739]

So revised build ish lol
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

Get 3 Months of XBOX Game Pass for PC w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

 

[Oussebon]

Looks great.

Just to reiterate, you may not see much or any performance difference from your old system in many situations, if it was the GPU alone limiting performance (which will be the case at 4k high settings, quite often).

No point buying 2 extra case fans. As in, literally no point, the case has 3 front fan mounts, 2 top, 1 rear. The 3 front are taken up with the stock RGB fans, the 2 top are taken up with your 240mm cooler, so there's only 1 vacant one at the rear. If you want an extra fan, just get 1

The 760p SSD is more than fine. You could save money on the SX6000. Or you could be an early adopter and get a Corsair MP600 and have a PCIe 4.0 SSD. Games won't care what SSD you have though.

 

[davbir739]

Finally in a position to order a new pc. Since its been a few months since i looked last iv looked at the below.
Would appreciate OUSSEBON opinon. Thanks

Case
THERMALTAKE V200 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.7GHz/73MB CACHE/AM4)

The Outer Worlds -AND- Borderlands 3 w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
1TB Samsung 860 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)

Choose from 6 Incredible Ubisoft Titles FREE with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x Slim USB 2.0 External DVD-RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 2018 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account

 

[Oussebon]

For just gaming, no point to the R9 CPUs, they're for people who stream or video edit for a living. R7 is generously more than enough especially for 4k.

V200 case has poor airflow, and is a bit budget level for this kind of system. Are you more interested in a budget case, or an RGB case?

Instead of the QVO from the Storage menu, go with the SX6000 from the M.2 SSD Drive menu

H60 cooler is a bit pointless as there are better options for performance or value either side of it. H100x would be a great pairing with an R7 3700x

 

[davbir739]

i want the best for 4k gaming tbh. so an rgb case

 

[davbir739]

Case	COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard	ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)	16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive	NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	NOT REQUIRED
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	8x Slim USB 2.0 External DVD-RW
Power Supply	CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling	Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste	STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card	ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking	10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System	Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language	United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media	Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account

Revised and much cheaper with the R7 instead of the R9

 

[Oussebon]

Looks good - the R7 3800x isn't really worth it over the R7 3700x. The numbers on the configurator make it look faster, but in reality it isn't meaningfully faster. So you could happily shave £50 off there if you wanted.

The case is a good choice

And it's nice the 3600MHz RAM is not as expensive as it used to be

 

[davbir739]

is the PCS SR-819 RGB FULL TOWER CASE a better case??

 

[davbir739]

or is the other case just as good but smaller?

 

[Oussebon]

I suspect the airflow in the PCS SR series cases isn't great, looking at the design. Little room for the air to get in at the front.

 

[davbir739]

I suspect the airflow in the PCS SR series cases isn't great, looking at the design. Little room for the air to get in at the front.

cheers, time to bend the credit card lol

 

[SpyderTracks]

cheers, time to bend the credit card lol

Please do some stretches before doing so, we don't want any injuries

 

[davbir739]

Is this case big enough for a rtx 2080, my only concern.