A properly cooled and future proofed spec?

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tpcosgrave

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Hi all, what do people think of this spec with regards to it being a properly cooled and future proof spec?
I will get the monitor elsewhere.

Usage will be for graphic design / multimedia / software development with some gaming.


Case
COOLERMASTER SILENCIO S600 QUIET MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 18 Core Processor i9-10980XE (3.0GHz) 24.75MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING II: ATX, USB 3.2, SATA 6 GB/s, Wi-Fi AC - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
256GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (8 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W CV SERIES™ CV-650 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
Webcam
ASUS Webcam C3 1080p 30 fps recording
 
sck451

sck451

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Honestly it's not a great build. It would be OK, don't get me wrong, but it's not the best way of spending your money. A couple of key questions. First, what is your budget? Your build seems to come out to around £3600 -- is this the limit? Second, are you sure you need 256GB of RAM?

The better options, I think, are either a build based on the Ryzen 9 5950X or the Threadripper 3960X, depending on whether you really need that much memory. Both would offer a better build than the Intel 10980XE. (Your build also needs better power, cooling and storage, but let's get to that when we've looked at the main question of which platform is best.)
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

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Nope..............

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jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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Couple of questions what monitor will you eventually be purchasing resolution wise ? And what programs will you be using to feel the need to have a 18 core cpu ?
 
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tpcosgrave

Active member
No I'm not sure I need 256GBs of RAM but I have a €4500 budget so I have a lot to play with. I'm trying to get the most bang for my buck and have something that will go for a good number of years.

Same for the CPU. I will look more at AMD. I haven't bought a new machine since 2014 so perhaps I need to revise my views re the processor!
Monitor will be something in the €400 region, I was looking at a 4K Ultra HD with 3840x2160 resolution
 
sck451

sck451

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I did think 256GB seemed unlikely (for context, that amount of RAM literally costs more than my entire PC).

Could you go through each of the uses you've outlined (graphic design, multimedia, software development, gaming) and say what software/games you'll be using and how intensive it is? And would your total budget then be €4900? And, finally, are you in Ireland? If not, can you say where you are?
 
jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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With all due respect I can afford a 5950x 3090 combo but would be a absolute waste for my needs im not sure why you would need 256gb of ram unless you were going to to have hundreds of google webpages open at the same time with a few virtual machines and and rendering projects going tho this may be a learning exsperience for me as im not aware how much ram large scale moddeling projects use ?
 
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tpcosgrave

Active member
Graphic design and multimedia - Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not too concerned about the software development requirement, I'm running an Oracle DB and they hog resources, so I want to make sure I have enough ram and a big processor. I know I'm over specifying and that's the idea - I'm not looking for a system that meets my requirements just for 2021, I'm looking for a system that can still meet my requirements in 2027. Gaming-wise, I will be playing Forza and Project Cars.
And finally, yes I'm in Ireland.
 
jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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tpcosgrave said:
Graphic design and multimedia - Adobe Creative Suite. I'm not too concerned about the software development requirement, I'm running an Oracle DB and they hog resources, so I want to make sure I have enough ram and a big processor. I know I'm over specifying and that's the idea - I'm not looking for a system that meets my requirements just for 2021, I'm looking for a system that can still meet my requirements in 2027. Gaming-wise, I will be playing Forza and Project Cars.
And finally, yes I'm in Ireland.
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would it be worth waiting for DDR5 ? if your looking towards 2027 ?
 
sck451

sck451

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Yeah, it will probably be next year before DDR5 is properly available in the mainstream, and much longer than that before it's ubiquitous.

Let's start by suggesting a monitor. 4K monitors aren't the best option right now in all honesty: most are 60Hz, and the higher refresh rate options are ludicrous money (and mostly seem to be out of stock anyway). I'd suggest UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz like the AOC CU34G2X (£450 in the UK, no idea about anywhere else). It's a curved monitor, which will be great for gaming but isn't everyone's taste in particular for content creation.

This means we can go for the RTX 3070 as the ideal graphics card (better for Adobe stuff than the AMD equivalents). We can go slightly luxury with the 5900X (and Strix X570): 12 cores is great for the work you'll be doing. 64GB of RAM is enough for most Creative Suite workflows. We can also go for a super-luxury storage configuration, with a silly-fast 980 Pro as the boot drive, a 2TB Firecuda for games and current projects, and a 2TB hard drive for older stuff/archives/non-speed dependent stuff. Then let's have an 850W power supply and the best cooler there is. Finally, we'll put all this in the excellent 5000X case. This all comes to €3512. It's honestly over-specced in a couple of places (principally the storage), but it's an absolutely bulletproof build.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: €3,512.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/yXyCrMknDD/
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

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sck451 said:
Yeah, it will probably be next year before DDR5 is properly available in the mainstream, and much longer than that before it's ubiquitous.

Let's start by suggesting a monitor. 4K monitors aren't the best option right now in all honesty: most are 60Hz, and the higher refresh rate options are ludicrous money (and mostly seem to be out of stock anyway). I'd suggest UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz like the AOC CU34G2X (£450 in the UK, no idea about anywhere else). It's a curved monitor, which will be great for gaming but isn't everyone's taste in particular for content creation.

This means we can go for the RTX 3070 as the ideal graphics card (better for Adobe stuff than the AMD equivalents). We can go slightly luxury with the 5900X (and Strix X570): 12 cores is great for the work you'll be doing. 64GB of RAM is enough for most Creative Suite workflows. We can also go for a super-luxury storage configuration, with a silly-fast 980 Pro as the boot drive, a 2TB Firecuda for games and current projects, and a 2TB hard drive for older stuff/archives/non-speed dependent stuff. Then let's have an 850W power supply and the best cooler there is. Finally, we'll put all this in the excellent 5000X case. This all comes to €3512. It's honestly over-specced in a couple of places (principally the storage), but it's an absolutely bulletproof build.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: €3,512.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/yXyCrMknDD/
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With a system like this and still money left in the pot what about upping the warranty to platinum
 
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Schmoo2k

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If the Oracle DB is for production and you plan to do any serious VM hosting (and given your budget) - I would be focusing on thread ripper, 64GB memory and external NAS for backups... But if the DB is only for local dev work, I would not...
 
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Steveyg

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sck451 said:
Yeah, it will probably be next year before DDR5 is properly available in the mainstream, and much longer than that before it's ubiquitous.

Let's start by suggesting a monitor. 4K monitors aren't the best option right now in all honesty: most are 60Hz, and the higher refresh rate options are ludicrous money (and mostly seem to be out of stock anyway). I'd suggest UWQHD (3440x1440) 144Hz like the AOC CU34G2X (£450 in the UK, no idea about anywhere else). It's a curved monitor, which will be great for gaming but isn't everyone's taste in particular for content creation.

This means we can go for the RTX 3070 as the ideal graphics card (better for Adobe stuff than the AMD equivalents). We can go slightly luxury with the 5900X (and Strix X570): 12 cores is great for the work you'll be doing. 64GB of RAM is enough for most Creative Suite workflows. We can also go for a super-luxury storage configuration, with a silly-fast 980 Pro as the boot drive, a 2TB Firecuda for games and current projects, and a 2TB hard drive for older stuff/archives/non-speed dependent stuff. Then let's have an 850W power supply and the best cooler there is. Finally, we'll put all this in the excellent 5000X case. This all comes to €3512. It's honestly over-specced in a couple of places (principally the storage), but it's an absolutely bulletproof build.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: €3,512.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/yXyCrMknDD/
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I'd be firing in a 1000W PSU as well, with the way the new GPU's draw power the larger PSU are going to be more common I reckon in future
 
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