Adequate cooling?

Hi guys, new user here.

I have ordered a mini PC from PCS to replace my current working PC.
It will be mainly used for working and some light video editing, but I'm sure my son will play games with it as well as do some heavier video editing and other stuff with it.

I have ordered the following mini PC (Sorry, some parts are in Spanish since I ordered it in Spain):

Carcasa
Caja InWIN 301 mini-ITX para juegos (Blanca)
Procesador (CPU)
CPU ocho núcleos AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (3,7 GHz-4,35 GHz/20 MB CACHÉ/AM4+)
Placa base
Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s)
Memoria (RAM)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666 MHz (2 x 16 GB)
Tarjeta gráfica
8 GB AMD RADEON™ RX 580 - HDMI, 3 x DP - DX® 12
1er Unidad de almacenamiento
NO ES NECESARIO
1ª Unidad M.2 SSD
2 TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (hasta 3500 MB/R, 2500 MB/W)
Unidad DVD/BLU-RAY
NO ES NECESARIO
Fuente de alimentación
ALIMENTACIÓN CORSAIR 550 W VS SERIES™ VS-550
Cable de alimentación
Cable de alimentación europeo de 1 metro (Kettle)
Refrigeración procesador
Refrigerador CPU super-silencioso Noctua NH-L9i bajo perfil
Pasta térmica
COMPUESTO TÉRMICO COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER
Iluminación LED
Regleta LED 50 cm Verde
Tarjeta de sonido
6 CANALES INTEGRADOS (5.1) AUDIO ALTA DEF. (DE SERIE)
Red inalámbrica/por cable
PUERTO LAN GIGABIT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi no incluida en H310I-PLUS)
Opciones USB/Thunderbolt
MÍN. 2 PUERTOS USB 3.0 Y 4 PUERTOS USB 2.0 a PANEL POSTERIOR + MIN. 2 PUERTOS FRONTALES
Sistema operativo
Windows 10 Professional original de 64 bits - incl. licencia individual
Idioma Sistema operativo
Norteamericano internacional/USA - Inglés norteamericano
Medios de recuperación de Windows
Imagen de recuperación multilingüe de Windows 10: suministrada en unidad USB
Software de Office
Prueba GRATUITA de 30 días de Microsoft® Office® 365 (Sistema operativo obligatorio)
Antivirus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Licencia gratuita 90 días, inc. modo juegos
Navegador
Google Chrome™
Protección de sobrecargas
V7 6 Toma 2 m Protector de sobrecargas europeo
Gestión de cables
Ordena-cables PCS 1,5 M - Gestión del cable profesional
Garantía
Garantía Platinum de 3 años (3 años recogida y devolución, 3 años componentes, 3 años mano de obra)
Entrega
3 - 4 DÍAS PARA LA ENTREGA EN ESPAÑA
Tiempo de compilación
Montaje estándar: entre 5 a 7 días laborales
Elemento promocional
¡The Division 2 de Tom Clancy GRATIS con los procesadores AMD Ryzen seleccionados!
Elemento promocional
Hasta dos juegos GRATIS con GPU RADEON RX seleccionadas.
Cantidad
1

Precio 2.150,00 € lo que incluye IVA y entrega

URL única para volver a configurar : https://www.pcspecialist.es/configuraciones-guardadas/amd-sff-gaming/bN0S5XbBZT/

My biggest concern is whether the cooling capacity selected is sufficient for the specs. If not, what changes would you recommend?

Another question, does anyone have any experience with the In Win case?

Thank you all in advance for your time, it is much appreciated.
 
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Sorry, I hadn't noticed that a change to the motherboard had not been implemented yet. I made the following change:
Change to ASUS® ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) from Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s)
 
Hi Oussebon,

Thank you very much for taking the time for this.
The video editing software is called Davinci Resolve, which is a free software package. I am not sure what my son uses since he knows all that stuff a lot better than I do.

He himself has a 24" Dell UHD monitor, but when on my computer he will be using my monitor which is a 29" widescreen curved LG (I don't know much about it, but I did see once that it does not support freesync, if that's useful info for you (I realy don't know much about this stuff, sorry!).
 
I just got an email from PCS stating that the order will take longer because they no longer have the ordered case (InWIN 301 MINI-ITX GAMING CASE) in stock.

Any suggestions on another case? Or do these come back into stock fairly quickly?

Any comments are appreciated.
 
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Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
That's all very useful info, thanks.

These benchmarks might be of interest:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1264/
And these: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...ve-14-NVIDIA-GeForce-vs-AMD-Radeon-Vega-1213/

It seems that Davinci resolve quite likes AMD's GPUs, although for some things Nvidia's new RTX GPUs actually give a big performance boost. Compare the RTX 2080 to the GTX 1080 and Vega 64 for instance (in gaming, the cards are pretty similar, with the 2070 being a bit better than the 1080 and Vega 64.

It also seems unless you're working with 8k RED footage, 6gb VRAM should be alright.

Given all this, you may wish to look at the RTX 2060. If your monitor's resolution is 2560x1080 (i.e. 1080p ultrawide) which I'm guessing it is, a 2060 would also be much better for gaming. The 580 will struggle with some settings on some titles.

In terms of economies to help pay for that, a less expensive SSD may be worth considering. 2TB SSD storage is a huge amount, and the 970 Evo is very expensive. Perhaps a 1TB SSD, and an HDD for mass storage?

For a mini ITX system, the TXm PSU would be a better bet as it's modular, which means fewer cables in the case and better airflow. It's also a better quality unit.

If the Inwin 301 case is unavailable, the Fractal Nano S and Fractal Node 304 are good options.

However, do you really need a mini-ITX system? Since they aren't usually very 'mini'. For instance:

Node 304: 210 x 250 x 374
Nano S: 330 mm x 203 mm x 400 mm

But the mid-tower (ATX) Corsair 275R: 436.5mm x 211mm x 446mm (Approx H x W x D)
So that's not very much larger than the Nano S. And it's still a similar sort of footprint to the Node 304

However, you have a lot less in the way of upgrade options.

Also the mini ITX motherboards can be more expensive than their ATX counterparts.

It looks like the 2700x is overall a strong choice for Davinci Resolve too:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-CPU-Roundup-Intel-vs-AMD-vs-Mac-1310/

To suggest some changes:


Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275R TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.35GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
---Tom Clancy's The Division 2 FREE w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs!
Motherboard
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP, DVI - VR Ready!
---Get Battlefield V -OR- Anthem with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Storage Drive
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2500MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Surge Protection
6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO SPAIN
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price 1.996,00 € including VAT and Delivery

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Thank you very much,Oussebon.

First of all, a small correction. My monitor does support freesync.

I will have a look right away. One thing, though, the machine is primarily my work computer. My son does have his own computer, but he just likes to play on mine when he is in my room.

That being said, I do like your specs very much and they make a lot of sense. However, I prefer a single hard drive and the 2TB PCIe NVMe is probably the fastest option. I process a lot of data, but almost all of it is done on external servers, meaning storage is not my main concern. I do like the 2 TB drive rather than the 1TB one because it means I won't have to upgrade anytime soon.

Can I simply cancel my previous order and order a completely new system right away?

Once again, thank you very much for your time and excellent insights.

Cheers
 
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Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
A lot of your files won't see any benefit from being on an SSD versus an HDD. For instance completed video projects, or your music, movie, etc collection.

Of course, you know your storage needs better than any of us, but I do recommend being 100% sure it's a good use of your money before buying a 2TB NVMe SSD because they are super expensive, and a 1TB SSD is already very large.

First of all, a small correction. My monitor does support freesync.
Nvidia GPUs now support freesync, and lots of people are reporting good compatibility. But even if freesync doesn't play nice with an Nvidia GPU and that monitor, the 2060 is still way more powerful than an RX 580, both for gaming and apparently Davinci Resolve (as long as 6gb RAM is enough for you).

Can I simply cancel my previous order and order a completely new system right away?
Yes. I assume the refund isn't instantaneous, so you might need to wait a bit for the funds to return to your account of course.
 
You are right about documents and files not benefitting from the SSD, I was referring more to the overall performance of the system if all data is on a single (and in this case, very fast SSD). 2 TB is indeed a lot of space to be filled, especially because I keep all my pics and music on an external drive. I could easily do with 1 TB, on the other hand, this way I won't have to upgrade storage for a good number of years. Something to think about, but I think you've convinced me.

I will go with 2060 since 6 GB is more than enough for my needs.

I will call PCS in the morning to see if I can change the system using the money they already have in their account. It doesn't seem practical to return the money and then wait for me to send it back again.

Thank you very much for your incredible patience and for taking the time to provide such extensive advice. It is highly appreciated.

Have a wonderful evening, Oussebon.
 
So I just got off the phone with PCS, who were extremely nice and helpful. I have cancelled my previous order and put in a new order.

They will actually try to put my order in the same spot in the queue, so with a bit of luck, it won't even affect my delivery date.

As you can see below, Oussebon, I have taken much of your advice to heart, so thanks again for all your help.

Carcasa
CARCASA PARA JUEGOS FRACTAL MESHIFY C NEGRA (Visor)
Procesador (CPU)
CPU ocho núcleos AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (3,7 GHz-4,35 GHz/20 MB CACHÉ/AM4+)
Placa base
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memoria (RAM)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933 MHz ~ (4 x 8 GB)
Tarjeta gráfica
6 GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP, DVI - VR Ready!
1er Unidad de almacenamiento
HDD de 2TB y 3,5" SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III, 6 GB/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB de CACHÉ
1ª Unidad M.2 SSD
1 TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (hasta 3400 MB/R, 2500 MB/W)
Unidad DVD/BLU-RAY
NO ES NECESARIO
Fuente de alimentación
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMIMODULAR 80 PLUS® ORO, ULTRASILENCIOSO
Cable de alimentación
Cable de alimentación europeo de 1 metro (Kettle)
Refrigeración procesador
Refrigerador CPU funcionamiento ultra-silencioso Noctua NH-U14S
Pasta térmica
PASTA TÉRMICA ESTÁNDAR PARA UNA REFRIGERACIÓN SUFICIENTE
Iluminación LED
2 Regletas LED 50 cm RGB
Tarjeta de sonido
6 CANALES INTEGRADOS (5.1) AUDIO ALTA DEF. (DE SERIE)
Red inalámbrica/por cable
TARJETA INALÁMBRICA 802.11 Gigabyte GC-WB1733D-I AC 1734Mbps + BT5
Opciones USB/Thunderbolt
MÍN. 2 PUERTOS USB 3.0 Y 2 PUERTOS USB 2.0 a PANEL POSTERIOR + MIN. 2 PUERTOS FRONTALES
Sistema operativo
Windows 10 Professional original de 64 bits - incl. licencia individual
Idioma Sistema operativo
Norteamericano internacional/USA - Inglés norteamericano
Medios de recuperación de Windows
Imagen de recuperación multilingüe de Windows 10: descargas ilimitadas desde la cuenta online
Software de Office
Prueba GRATUITA de 30 días de Microsoft® Office® 365 (Sistema operativo obligatorio)
Antivirus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Licencia gratuita 90 días, inc. modo juegos
Navegador
Google Chrome™
Protección de sobrecargas
V7 6 Toma 2 m Protector de sobrecargas europeo
Garantía
Garantía Gold de 3 años (2 años recogida y devolución, 2 años componentes, 3 años mano de obra)
Entrega
3 - 4 DÍAS PARA LA ENTREGA EN ESPAÑA
Tiempo de compilación
Montaje estándar: entre 6 a 8 días laborales
Elemento promocional
¡The Division 2 de Tom Clancy GRATIS con los procesadores AMD Ryzen seleccionados!
Elemento promocional
¡Consigue el Battlefield V O el Anthem con las selectas tarjetas gráficas NVIDIA GeForce RTX!
Manual de bienvenida
Manual de bienvenida de PCSpecialist - España
Cantidad
1

Precio 2.219,00 € lo que incluye IVA y entrega

URL única para volver a configurar : https://www.pcspecialist.es/configuraciones-guardadas/amd-am4-pc/mSEdkd5y23/
 
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