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AMD Build. Any suggestions?

Thawyr

New member
Going all in on this setup. Want it for a mix of uses that require a decent CPU but mostly for QHD resolution gaming (Metro Exodus on ultra settings for example).
Aesthetic suggestions would also be appreciated, trying to pair it with my green Razer peripherals.

One question I had was if I need extra fans. The RGB ones only came as 4 but apparently the case I chose can only fit 3 extra fans.
Wanted to keep the aesthetic by keeping all my fans RGB but it's not a big deal, performance takes priority. Do I even need any extra fans or is it unnecessary?

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Custom Liquid Cooling Kit
Liquid Series RGB High Kit - Corsair Hydro X
Tubing
Clear Hardline PETG Tubing (Bent/Metallic Fittings)
Graphics Card Cooling
GPU Water Block - For One Graphics Card!
Coolant Colour
Mayhems X1 UV Yellow Green
LED Lighting
3x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9-10900K 10 Core (3.7GHz @ up to 5.1GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO Wi-Fi (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2080 SUPER - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - White
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C+PD) USB 3.1 PCI-E 10Gbps CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Liquid Series® Build - Approximately 14 to 16 working days
Price: €4,125.00 including VAT and Delivery
 

Nursemorph

Big Poster
The QHD monitor is it a 144Hz refresh rate? Is it just a standard 1440p monitor or is it an Ultrawide? Just trying to work out if the GPU is over-powered or not.

When you say mix of uses? Just wondering what you use that would require an overclocked 10900 and water cooling as, from what I have read, Exodus doesn't need much more than most games. Unless the water cooling is purely for aesthetics? Sorry, just trying to get an idea of things as, to my mind, that system is way over-powered
 

Nursemorph

Big Poster
I'll be honest...I had a quick look there and couldn't find anything related to desktop GPUs, only mobile GPUs which are under-powered compared to their desktop counterparts. A mobile 2080 Super is about the same as a desktop 2070 Super. Maybe there was something elsewhere on the site.

Water cooling is really not needed for your uses...nor is the OC'd Intel chip (I wouldn't personally go near Intel at the moment). I have done up an AMD spec (will post in a separate post) which will perform as you need it to while being pretty quiet...for 1400 Euros less than the spec above.

One thing to consider: There are new graphics cards coming out in the next 1-2 months which are set to improve performance by up to 40% in some cases. Whilst it's no really possible to "future-proof" a gaming system as such, one of the new cards would last longer. So, if you aren't in a major hurry, then it might be worth waiting for the release of the new GPUs. Up to you...just thought I'd mention it.

Regarding GPU cooling: As long as your case has good cooling, then it shouldn't be much of an issue....I run a 2060 Super in a much cheaper case which has good airflow and recently was running the GPU at 95% of it's capacity for hours on end with no temperature issues
 

Nursemorph

Big Poster
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,727.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/aPdWmEZVUa/

A few things to note:

The USB card isn't available on the motherboard selected so hasn't been chosen.
RAM: There is only 16GB there as that is all the configurator will allow of 3600MHz...however, PCS will usually increase it to 32GB if you ask them.
Less RGB but you can add RGB strips and whatnot if you want..
Windows: Dropped down to Home as don't see you needing the Pro version (only difference between the 2 is related to website domains or something similar)
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Your build would probably warrant the 2080 Super if you really don't want to upgrade in the next year or 2. If you were willing to purchase now and upgrade the GPU next year then the 2070 Super would have you covered quite nicely.
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Intel is not a good choice. If you want it, that's absolutely fine but I would strongly advise against it. You are being dazzled by the Intel brand. It's like people buying Apple because they think their phones are actually decent due to the fantastic marketing.

Your budget allows for a FAR higher performing PC than you have currently selected but it's only possible to lead a horse to the watering hole.
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Considerably stronger gaming rig with a better future potential...

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,901.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NMY03SYZeg/
 

Grumpywurzel

Enthusiast
Considerably stronger gaming rig with a better future potential...

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,901.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NMY03SYZeg/
Awesome build bud, just need a sugar daddy to buy me one now 🤣 🤣
 

Nursemorph

Big Poster
Motherboard: I don't believe that board really warrants enough to justify it's extra cost (I think an extra PCI-E 4.0x1 lane is the only difference besides the audio codec).

GPU: Your choice...I personally wouldn't spend the extra just to get a Strix card.

Hard drive: For your uses, the Samsung M2 should be fine.

Thermal paste: The cooler comes with high-grade paste anyway so not needed

Wi-Fi: That card isn't good enough to justify it's cost I don't believe. From what I understand most i-Fi these days is 5GHz rather than 2.4GHz so that card would offer no speed performance over the Intel AX200, despite bing £60 more...plus the Intel has Bluetooth as well
 
Also worth noting (from a gamer who bought recently but a lower tech build) That the tech train keeps going forward so you will get components coming out next year that will wipe the floor in terms of cost / productivity, so if you have the budget it's best to either power up things like your graphics card and other components to delay the tech slip or be myself, where I'm happy to slide down the track gracefully fully accepting that my RTX 2070 super is going to be outclassed in the next year or two (as at least I've got a modern PC now that doesn't take ages to load and plays games acceptably at new games well, at present).

TL;DR going all in with a bang or going in but accepting the tech train has already left the station and don't stress, is the way to go :)

NB tech hasn't jumped *THAT* much in the last 10 years aside from some developments like SSD, faster slots etc, at least not compared to the 386/486 to Pentium days :)
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
I've rechecked the AMD options fully and it appears you are right. There would be practically no difference between them for gaming especially on a QHD monitor and the 3900X has far better multitasking capabilities so it's a far better option. I've done another build, AMD this time lol. I was wondering is the firecuda much better than the samsung 970 evo? I know it is Gen 4 and has higher speeds but do you think it's necessary and more importantly is it as reliable? Also do you think that wifi/bluetooth card is good? Since the motherboard doesn't have it I figured I may as well get it. Bluetooth connectivity is important as I'll be using a controller/bluetooth headphones occasionally and don't want trouble with them as I have had before with external USB connected bluetooth/wifi dongles. But if the options on PCS aren't the best then I can always install one after myself, I just have no idea which one to get as I haven't looked into that at all yet.

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.6GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (DDR4, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
ASUS PCE-AX58BT Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) 2400Mbps/5GHz, 600Mbps/2.4GHz
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C+PD) USB 3.1 PCI-E 10Gbps CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €3,035.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/SAz9mPZrW9/
My suggested spec was better for less money. You literally haven't improved anything, you've lowered performance for the most part. The exception is the Wifi card which you want the AX200.
 

sibun1

Rising Star
You should expect 8 to 10 years out of a system like this...not 4...

Upgrade the GPu every (roughly) 3 years to keep it on spec, upgrade the CPU about 4/5 years in, be prepared to upgrade the cooling too depending on what CPU/cooler you can use. You might find the WiFi card might do with an updated version etc etc... thats the whole point of puttin the motherboard in that is a 570.

Your mate seems to be as unaware as you, Asus is just a brand, its the same chip on it, you are largely just paying a brand tax.
Would wait till the 3000 are in use in a month ~(roughly) and contact PCS, find out exactly what ones they are using and then do some comparisions.
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
upgrade the CPU about 4/5 years in
You shouldn't need to do this, the platform should suffice for 7 - 10 years, no CPU upgrade needed in that time.

All my rigs are still on 4th Gen i7's and still handle everything I need them for (gaming, media transcoding, general use)
 

sibun1

Rising Star
The 1000w PSU is still complete overkill, even considering future upgrades and GPU changes.
Not sure why you want 32GB RAM other than the fact you want it...
The 1TB M.2 should really be a Firecuda, they are better than the Samsung Evo

Scotts machine would still outperform yours. The RAM is meaningless for gaming once 16GB in all but a (Very) small handful of games
The M.2 would be quicker than your choice andthe PSU...well you're just throwing money at something you wont use, 850 would be more than enough, if not 750
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
The 1000w PSU is still complete overkill, even considering future upgrades and GPU changes.
Not sure why you want 32GB RAM other than the fact you want it...
The 1TB M.2 should really be a Firecuda, they are better than the Samsung Evo

Scotts machine would still outperform yours. The RAM is meaningless for gaming once 16GB in all but a (Very) small handful of games
The M.2 would be quicker than your choice andthe PSU...well you're just throwing money at something you wont use, 850 would be more than enough, if not 750
Completely agree with all of this.
 

sibun1

Rising Star
You shouldn't need to do this, the platform should suffice for 7 - 10 years, no CPU upgrade needed in that time.

All my rigs are still on 4th Gen i7's and still handle everything I need them for (gaming, media transcoding, general use)
This was just a suggestion of timings... seeing what CPU is the best you can put in about 5 years in (or possibly even longer as you say) can then extend the life of the machine before looking at a total rebuild
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
Ok, that all makes more sense then.

I saw in your build you went with the Ryzen 3900XT any reason? I intend to overclock both the CPU and GPU not for performance but simply so I know how to. Slightly booting it could be useful in the future but I don't intend to push either to the max.
The XT is just the latest version of the CPU, has slightly higher normal and boost clocks.

I heard the H115i Platinum was noisy and not as effective at cooling. Is that true?
No, not at all, this may have been related to the older H115i pro which had an inferior pump coldplate design as well as much cheaper fans.

What's the best option and will I need the better thermal paste with it?
You will absolutely want the H115i platinum as the very minimum on that processor to keep it within optimum boost capabilites, although if you're going to be overclocking that's slightly irrelevant as it won't overclock anywhere near as high as it will boost.
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
Ah yes sorry. I said it somewhere back there but this page got way more messy than I thought it would. Thanks that's really helpful! The reviews I saw must've been for the older one then. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks again!
Not your fault, completely my fault for not reading the history properly! Sorry about that!

Forgot to add, the H115i Platinum (or any corsair AIO) comes pre applied with high quality paste and is probably better than the advanced paste, so leave the additional paste as normal.
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Just so that you are aware. You are paying £120 to keep your mate happy with the brand. Regardless of how good a mate it is, to guarantee my return I would be expecting £100 from him right now.

What you are doing, in my mind, is just daft to be honest. Spending £120 extra for a brand on an already £500 card is just insane. You kept mentioning £200 difference for the card etc, if you forego the strix aspect of it you can get the 2080 for £80 more. Dump the 1000W PSU and you're down to a £40 difference. That's hugely significant when it comes to performance.

You're literally paying for your mates preference including all the depreciation of value that comes along with those brands and wants. SLI is a thing of the past, noone uses it anymore so for him to want to do it shows a bit of inexperience or misinformation on his part.

If you skipped your mates preference you could sell on the card to many others who wouldn't be so prudish.

Regardless, the system is a fine build. You could have 20% more performance for £40 more if you weren't pandering to your mate of questionable reasoning.

I've said my piece on it though. I get absolutely no benefit whatsoever in letting you know all this, I just have a feeling you're going to regret these decisions you are making. You may see them as well founded but they don't make any sense outwith your personal bubble.
 
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