AMD Ryzen 9 3900X - Build (Advice Required)

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promuza

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Dear PC Specialist Enthusiasts;

I have looked through quite a few of the other threads before I have posted here; where many of them state that people should hold off on buying an Intel build and wait to see what AMD offer (pre-AMD pitch at computex).

Having been an Intel fanboy in the past (my last build consisted of an I7 5820K and an GTX 960) where the build roughly cost me £2K, I find it amazing how much you can get for £2K now.

I am looking to seek advice on what build I can get from a an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X build (I understand that the release date is 7/7 and there is no official UK Pricing; but roughly they will be targetted at $499 for this CPU).

Not only do I want the tower for high-end gaming, streaming on TWITCH/Discord and video editing. I would also like to use it for Video Editing, Photoshop and Programming (Ruby/Python/Java).

I have been out of the scene in relation to what is a good build, and I confess I do not know much in relation to what Mobo/that will be required with these new Zen 2 CPUS (Ryzen 9 3900x) and was hoping for advice. I am not sure what GFX card to choose too.

My budget is £2000 capped. I already have a 1080p monitor, keyboard and mouse. Will require a full spec.

I hope you can help.

Thank you

ProMuza
 
Scott

Scott

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Are you looking to continue the gaming on the 1080p monitor or would you be thinking about 1440p or 4K in the future?

If you're sticking with 1080p then a 2060 GPU would be more than adequate and offer very high frequencies on most titles at high settings.

A system like that should be well inside your 2k budget, if you wanted to look towards 3k or 4k gaming then the 2080 would be the next logical jump in GPU choice. Everything else would remain the same.

If you wanted to save a little you could go with 16GB of RAM. That's more than enough for almost all applications but heavy photoshop and video editing can benefit greatly from the extra RAM. 32GB was well inside budget so I chose it.

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When the new CPUs are out simply the chip and the motherboard would be different. I would expect the price difference to be £100-£200 max.
 
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promuza

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The_Scotster said:
Are you looking to continue the gaming on the 1080p monitor or would you be thinking about 1440p or 4K in the future?

If you're sticking with 1080p then a 2060 GPU would be more than adequate and offer very high frequencies on most titles at high settings.

A system like that should be well inside your 2k budget, if you wanted to look towards 3k or 4k gaming then the 2080 would be the next logical jump in GPU choice. Everything else would remain the same.

If you wanted to save a little you could go with 16GB of RAM. That's more than enough for almost all applications but heavy photoshop and video editing can benefit greatly from the extra RAM. 32GB was well inside budget so I chose it.

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When the new CPUs are out simply the chip and the motherboard would be different. I would expect the price difference to be £100-£200 max.
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I currently have a 1080p monitor (x2), but would be looking to move up to 4K in the future. I don't want to restrict myself now and then have to change the GPU. (Even though its recommended every few years).

Do you think that the Ryzen 9 3900X would be a better option than the Intels. As I have seen that the Ryzen 9 3900x will be coming at over 50% of the price of the equivalent Intel build.

Thank you
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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The Intel equivalent is a smidge over £300 more than the above.
Price: £1,781.00 including VAT and Delivery
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However, I don't know that the 3900x would be the best option for you. I would think the 3800x would be more in line with what you need. I would wait and see what the pricing is like vs the performance, when the reviews come out.

With 4k in mind you're going to want the 2080 in the build also which bumps the original build closer to your budget.
Price: £1,875.00 including VAT and Delivery
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Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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At 4k there's going to be no discernible difference between Intel and AMD. In the professional applications Intel MAY have the edge, but given the latest security issues with Intel the CPUs may see performance limitations. If you went with the 3900x there are more cores than available on the latest Intel offerings so the AMD would win on throughput alone.

Personally, in your situation, I wouldn't consider the Intel option at all. I think the new AMD chips have a really firm place in the market and your application is what they are catered for.
 
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promuza

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The_Scotster said:
The Intel equivalent is a smidge over £300 more than the above.
Price: £1,781.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/kJRgbQYj25/

However, I don't know that the 3900x would be the best option for you. I would think the 3800x would be more in line with what you need. I would wait and see what the pricing is like vs the performance, when the reviews come out.

With 4k in mind you're going to want the 2080 in the build also which bumps the original build closer to your budget.
Price: £1,875.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/GRDGvTAc4x/
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Whilst it is a noob saying (and not necessarily true); I wanted to try and future proof it as much as I can. Thats why the 3900x was a more of an idea compared to the 3800x.
 
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promuza

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The_Scotster said:
At 4k there's going to be no discernible difference between Intel and AMD. In the professional applications Intel MAY have the edge, but given the latest security issues with Intel the CPUs may see performance limitations. If you went with the 3900x there are more cores than available on the latest Intel offerings so the AMD would win on throughput alone.

Personally, in your situation, I wouldn't consider the Intel option at all. I think the new AMD chips have a really firm place in the market and your application is what they are catered for.
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Thank you for all your support.

The plan is to wait till Mid August before I purchase all of the parts, hopefully all the YouTube and the raving reviews (benchmarks) will be out before I purchase any of the parts.

Feel like a kid again (waiting for a new PC)

As long as it all bundles to under £2K.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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I think there's no point planning the spec until the new parts are available and on sale.

Since pricing, availability, and PCS's selection are unknown. Not just in terms of new CPUs, new mobos, PCIe 4.0 SSDs, and possibly new RAM options. But just regular stuff like PCS's selection of cases could have changed. And we don't know what CPU coolers will be appropriate.

Tempting though it is to try to line up as much as possible now, it probably won't help much :)

Waiting for Zen 2 is definitely the right play
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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I planned my "new" build every other week for about a year :ROFLMAO:

Granted, the bits chopped and changed like triggers brush, but giving the mind treats is all part of the fun :D
 
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promuza

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Oussebon said:
I think there's no point planning the spec until the new parts are available and on sale.

Since pricing, availability, and PCS's selection are unknown. Not just in terms of new CPUs, new mobos, PCIe 4.0 SSDs, and possibly new RAM options. But just regular stuff like PCS's selection of cases could have changed. And we don't know what CPU coolers will be appropriate.

Tempting though it is to try to line up as much as possible now, it probably won't help much :)

Waiting for Zen 2 is definitely the right play
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I am just an eager beaver. I was waiting a good 6 months to start this build "waiting for AMDs announcement"; I was hoping they were going to release the so called 9 3950x (16 core, 32 threads) but I aint holding out another year.

I wanted to see what people thought about this build. Since its only a few weeks away before I start planning.

Thank you
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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Without benchmarks and reviews I honestly couldn't say. The 3900x could be a good choice especially if streaming to youtube and twitch at once, but if you're not maybe the 3800x is more than fine. Maybe the 3900x makes sense for your video editing, depending on software, but maybe not... or maybe it would if actual shelf prices were lower.

There's not much intelligent I can think to say without actual evidence.
(edit: intelligent comments not guaranteed even with evidence:p)

About the 16-core one, if you'd not already heard:

AMD Accidentally Confirms 16-Core
We’ve been speaking of the AMD 16-core CPU since our coverage started this past week, but AMD never officially announced the product. What we know now is that (1) motherboard manufacturers have 16-core CPUs in-hand for testing, (2) if it launches as a retail product, it will likely not be during the July 7 release date for the other Ryzen 3000 parts (but we aren’t sure -- probably later this year, though), and (3) AMD accidentally confirmed that the AM4 platform started on 4 cores, and has now “quadrupled” in just a few years. This was in a conversation with GamersNexus at Computex.

All totaled, it exists, it’s just a matter of when (or if) we see it in retail.
www.gamersnexus.net

HW News - Ryzen 3900X LN2 Overclock, RTX 20 Refresh, NZXT Cases, & More

As we’ve been inundated with Computex 2019 coverage, this HW News episode will focus on some of the smaller news items that have slipped through the cracks, so to speak. It’s mostly a helping of smaller hardware announcements from big vendors like Corsair, NZXT, and SteelSeries, with a side of...
www.gamersnexus.net www.gamersnexus.net
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So yes, as you say the waiting game could be a dangerous one with that
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
My guess is they are waiting for the Intel 10 core to be announced so that they can squash it.
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
$750, which will likely translate to £700-£750. Pricey but looks pretty special.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
£750 is a big expense indeed. Although viewed in relative terms it's literally half the price of the 16-core i9-7960X which is 1.5 grand - £750 seems somewhat bargainous :/
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
It seems to be an attempt at marketing towards the high end home user though. Rather than professional.

At only 0.3ghz off of Intel's best clock speed it will be interesting to see how it stacks up. It'll also be interesting to see if it can overclock to the magic 5ghz as that will make it a VERY interesting chip given the hyperthreading issues.

I can't help but think my next build might just be an AMD :D
 
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