Could someone check my PC build?

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herhtrhjerh

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Looking to get a new computer. Gaming is the most intensive thing that I'll be using it for (next game that I plan to play is RDR2). I want it to last a while of course. I want it to be good but not overkill for my needs.
Note: Everything in the list below will be new aside from the 1080 which I'll be taking from my old computer. I don't feel like this card needs upgrading yet but let me know if you disagree...

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275R TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache

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Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i V2 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,229.00 including VAT and Delivery

Any help/tips/ideas/suggestions?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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What monitor are you gaming on? Resolution and refresh rate.

Why are you getting a new PC? What was your old spec and why do you believe the new spec will improve performance?

A case with better airflow would make sense (if on a budget, Fractal Focus G), 32gb is a pure waste for gaming and not futureproof - 16gb is more than fine - the Ironwolf Pro HDDs are not remotely worth it. The Samsung SSDs are very expensive and you'd see no difference to gaming performance versus a cheaper drive. Given how big games are you will want a larger drive. H100i cooler is more effective for a similar price. If you need wifi get the AX200 card. If you don't need wifi, drop the card.
 
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herhtrhjerh

Member
Thanks Oussebon this is the kind of feedback I was hoping for.

What monitor are you gaming on? Resolution and refresh rate.
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I currently have a monitor with resolution of 1920x1080 and a 60hz refresh rate.

Why are you getting a new PC? What was your old spec and why do you believe the new spec will improve performance?
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My current PC has a Z87-A motherboard, 8GB RAM and i4-4670k 3.40GHz CPU - must be about 6-7 years old now. There's a few things wrong with it that makes me want to just get something new (might not be worth going into but can do), plus I want something that's going to handle new games better.

32gb is a pure waste for gaming and not futureproof - 16gb is more than fine
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Might have got carried away with the RAM, is 32GB unlikely to be needed in the forseeable future then? I've noticed that newer games are now recommending 16GB. I just thought I'd go one better that that. But won't bother if it's a waste and unlikely to ever be useful.

All other points noted, thanks again.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
32gb won't be needed for gaming for a long time. And by the time it is beneficial for gaming, it won't matter if you bought 16gb or 32gb today because everything else will be more obsolete. RAM quantity isn't going to be the bottleneck for gaming in this system.

Some games will see an improvement from a new CPU (and the fast DDR4 RAM that comes with it) but most won't. Because you're gaming on a 1080p 60hz monitor and in gaming you will 99% of the time be limited by either your GPU or your monitor.

A CPU upgrade may give you slightly a smoother experience in some parts RDR2 but you're paying £1200 for ultimately not that much.

If you're not averse to DIY, you could just replace your mobo, CPU, and RAM yourself - probably going for an AMD Ryzen build. That would set you back £300-£400 rather than £1.2k. And spend what you save on a 1440p 144hz monitor, with hundreds of quid left over.
 
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herhtrhjerh

Member
I've put this build together, I just have a couple of questions...
Could anyone recommend me a case for the below spec? I'd like a case that can also fit decent fans to keep everything cool.
Also, I already have a GTX 1080 that I'll be installing into the PC, so I'd need space in the case for this.
Would the 1080 have any problems fitting onto this mobo with the Noctua etc?

Another comments about the spec are welcome.

Processor (CPU)AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
MotherboardASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics CardNONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive1TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)
Power SupplyCORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor CoolingNoctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler

Many thanks
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Again, you're spending a huge sum on the mobo, CPU, and RAM for what in most cases will be a modest upgrade,

If you're tipping money on a build for more CPU performance, then you might as well get an i9 CPU as an R7 + X570 + 3600 MHz RAM.

But again, that too would be a modest upgrade in most cases, bottlenecked by your monitor and/or GPU.

If you don't want to do a DIY upgrade on your own system, it would make more sense to just not buy anything (except a better monitor to untap your 1080's potential more). And save the cash for a more rounded upgrade down the line.
 
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herhtrhjerh

Member
Hey thanks again. I took another look after your post the other day and switched to a Ryzen 7 CPU, dropped to 16gb ram and made some other changes and got £200 off the total, and was looking at spending that extra on a 144hz monitor instead (although not 1440p): I was considering a MSI Optix MAG241CR.
I'm not too concerned about the overall budget but I was keen on cutting cost a bit to squeeze in a new monitor.
Do you think that monitor will help me get more out of the build?
I'm not too concerned about the GPU being a bottleneck as I'll be upgrading that next...not straight away, but perhaps when there's a reasonably priced upgrade. I defintely want a system that has scope to be upgraded over time though and don't mind spending some of that up front..
There's really nothing aside from the 1080 that I want to keep from my current system though, so I definitely just want to get something new.
I agree that I could scale down the specs a bit, I'm just trying to find a balance between something that's a decent upgrade, something that will last me a while that has upgrade potential plus something that isn't too overkill of course.
But also £1200 is what I have budgeted so using that isn't a massive deal for me, but of course I don't want to waste money and it's always nice to save some of it.

What processor/motherboard would you suggest for my needs?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
What I'm telling you is that in most cases, anything you buy won't be much of an upgrade.

And spending £1200 on a new system plus a £400 GPU only to pair it with a 1080p screen feels like selling the whole thing short, when you can buy a 1440p gaming PC and the 1440p 144hz monitor easily for £1600.

Maybe something like:

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE R6 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £934.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/4pNNhdgs37/

You could spend £220 more on an R7 plus an X570 mobo. But why.
 
polycrac

polycrac

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And if you could get by with 3TB for your hdd, you could get a 7200rpm drive, which would be noticably faster for some (not all) actions. You could always add more storage later if you run short.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I could get your build even cheaper too as I don't need the Windows license or wifi card.
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Good to hear :)

At least this wranges the price down. So something like:

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE R6 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £814.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/XU2U4NDxeP/

Are you interested in The Outer Worlds or Borderlands 3 btw? If so, go with the R5 3600x as it comes bundled with a choice of the two games. It's not worth £40 for the tiny performance difference between it and the R5 3600 - but if you were probably going to get one of the games for £30-40 anyway, why not. :)
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
If you're upping the PC especially with a view to RDR2 you probably know this already, but the PC release has been utterly beset by problems, terrible and inconsistent performance, all kinds of things. You may want to hold out for it to get patched a lot before playing.

It'd be a shame to spend £800 on new hardware to even out CPU performance only to still have a poor gaming experience because the game itself is just broken.
 
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Oussebon said:
If you're upping the PC especially with a view to RDR2 you probably know this already, but the PC release has been utterly beset by problems, terrible and inconsistent performance, all kinds of things. You may want to hold out for it to get patched a lot before playing.

It'd be a shame to spend £800 on new hardware to even out CPU performance only to still have a poor gaming experience because the game itself is just broken.
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It's just been released on Steam which everyone hoped would give the devs the impetus to straighted it out a bit, but according to reports, they've still got major issues:

"One common issue appears to be Rockstar Launcher’s implementation with Steam, which you need to install and log into before you can play. Many, however, are getting errors telling them they don’t own the game, while others are being asked to verify game files, which doesn’t lead to success.

Indeed, many of these problems are also echoed on the Steam forums, but the good news is that all of this is seemingly the fault of the launcher, which is less complicated than your typical game problems."

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Red Dead Redemption 2 launches to low Steam player numbers, mixed reviews

The launch of Red Dead Redemption 2 has not been as smooth or successful as you'd think.
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I'm sure they'll sort it eventually, but it's taking a lot longer than anyone thought it would.
 
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stevenmckinnon187

New member
herhtrhjerh said:
Hey thanks again. I took another look after your post the other day and switched to a Ryzen 7 CPU, dropped to 16gb ram and made some other changes and got £200 off the total, and was looking at spending that extra on a 144hz monitor instead (although not 1440p): I was considering a MSI Optix MAG241CR.
I'm not too concerned about the overall budget but I was keen on cutting cost a bit to squeeze in a new monitor.
Do you think that monitor will help me get more out of the build?
I'm not too concerned about the GPU being a bottleneck as I'll be upgrading that next...not straight away, but perhaps when there's a reasonably priced upgrade. I defintely want a system that has scope to be upgraded over time though and don't mind spending some of that up front..
There's really nothing aside from the 1080 that I want to keep from my current system though, so I definitely just want to get something new.
I agree that I could scale down the specs a bit, I'm just trying to find a balance between something that's a decent upgrade, something that will last me a while that has upgrade potential plus something that isn't too overkill of course.
But also £1200 is what I have budgeted so using that isn't a massive deal for me, but of course I don't want to waste money and it's always nice to save some of it.

What processor/motherboard would you suggest for my needs?
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i have the MSI Optix MAG241C and love the moniter its only 1080p but ive never had a problem
 
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