Cpu is overheating almost always.

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Iraklis Pazios

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So I have had this laptop for about 8 months now. And it angers me so much that I may need to replace it in a year or so, because the cpu temperature is ATROCIOUS. Whenever I launch a 3D game, be it Fallout New Vegas, an 11 year old game, at low settings, or Monster Hunter World with the high texture pack and 64 bit colours turned on, or Devil May Cry 5 with lowest or max settings, the CPU REFUSES to stay under 90C. It stays around 50 when browsing the internet or doing projects, but god forbid I launch any 3D video game, the thing will go ballistic with the temperature. And I'm using the cooling pad as well. I am aware that putting it on turbo, basically overclocking it, is a risk, but whether I use Turbo or Gaming setting, it doesn't seem to matter. As long as any 3D game is launched, be it something a 10 year old computer could handle at 144fps or the latest games, it will ALWAYS stay around 85-95C. I tried to limit my framerate as well. MHW at lowest settings, 30fps locked, 90C. MHW at max settings, 72fps, 90C. Devil May Cry 3, a 16 year old game with an hd remaster at 60fps? You guessed it, 90C. It isn't even being used that much! Even at the heaviest thing I have to throw at this thing -Devil May Cry 5 at Max settings, Vsync and uncapped fps, which resulted in only 50fps actually since my GPU is bottlenecking my CPU- the CPU was only using around 50-60% of its processing power. This is the most I can push it using a video game. 60%. Most of the time it's using around 30% even at the heaviest games, but the temperature whether at 30% or 60%, is always around 90C. Is my laptop malfuctioning or is this model just absolute garbage? I am legit thinking of just asking for a refund at this point. This thing won't last another year since I game around 5 hours a day on average. Which means 5 hours a day this thing is on 90 or more degrees.
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Paulbax

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Have you inadvertently set the cpu power level too high in the control centre?
I set my gaming profile similar to turbo profile (120w?+) and was mid/high 90 degrees.
I then backed it down to either 30,35 or 40w and temps now in the 80s for MSFS20 in VR (though game on system). Turbo is for short period performance.
Dont forget though, laptops run hot.
 
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Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
Paulbax said:
Have you inadvertently set the cpu power level too high in the control centre?
I set my gaming profile similar to turbo profile (120w?+) and was mid/high 90 degrees.
I then backed it down to either 30,35 or 40w and temps now in the 80s for MSFS20 in VR (though game on system). Turbo is for short period performance.
Dont forget though, laptops run hot.
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Which control center? You mean GamingCenterU?
 
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Paulbax

Silver Level Poster
Iraklis Pazios said:
Which control center? You mean GamingCenterU?
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I am not sure whether the optimus is tongfang or clevo? My tongfang (Ionico) has a Control Centre. This is not part of windows but a system created by the laptop supplier. I know you can also play with the PL values with a programme called throttlestop, however I defer to others with more knowledge to give you guidance. @Macco26 has a few video guides. However you need to figure out if this is relevant to your problem first.
From memory my problem was to high values for PL1 and PL2.
 
Macco26

Macco26

Expert
@Paulbax Even if it were a Tongfang it's a 2020 generation (RTX 20 series GPU). Our best in class Control Center 3.x does not work with his laptop. It's stuck with its GamingCenterU and that's all.
However CPU Power Limits can be amended by utilities like ThrottleStop I guess.
 
jamiephillips909

jamiephillips909

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AMD Ryzen™ 7 Eight Core Processor 4800H max temp is 105 so you still below the limit that chip from what I have read in games averages between 80-95 so it dosent seem like a issue
 
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Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
jamiephillips909 said:
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Is your power plan set to balanced if it is not could you set it to balanced load up a game and see what the temps are ?
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I have tweaked with the settings excessively. Set max cpu performance to 10% once to see if there's any difference, whether negative or positive. No difference. I have used nvidia panel and battery options and amd's software for the CPU and integrated amd gpu to battery saving mode as well. It affected performance so I know it activated, but no difference in temperature.
 
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Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
jamiephillips909 said:
AMD Ryzen™ 7 Eight Core Processor 4800H max temp is 105 so you still below the limit that chip from what I have read in games averages between 80-95 so it dosent seem like a issue
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Saying it consistently runs at 100C doesn't mean it can handle it for long periods of time. This thing will fry itself soon.
 
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DarkPaladin

Enthusiast
You said you clean the laptop every month or so, but you didn't mention if you've attempted to re-paste the CPU. While that CPU is capable of withstanding high temps, it obviously isn't ideal to have it running at 90-100c that often. I'd suggest using a good thermal paste and possibly turning on your fans on the maximum speed during gaming, especially as we approach the summer (room temperature can increase CPU/GPU temps as well).
 
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Gus

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What is it sitting on, hard surface with plenty of free air or duvet/carpet etc. Should never be latter it can't breathe on material as it absorbs the heat and reradiates the heat back at up.
Do you have any extra feet to raise it higher off the surface?
Do you have a cooling pad?
Is it in direct sunlight or near a radiator or in a hot room with no air circulation?
Tried having a Desk fan blow straight over it?
 
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Iraklis Pazios

Bronze Level Poster
DarkPaladin said:
You said you clean the laptop every month or so, but you didn't mention if you've attempted to re-paste the CPU. While that CPU is capable of withstanding high temps, it obviously isn't ideal to have it running at 90-100c that often. I'd suggest using a good thermal paste and possibly turning on your fans on the maximum speed during gaming, especially as we approach the summer (room temperature can increase CPU/GPU temps as well).
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Thermal paste should be changed every 3-4 years. Not every 6 months. Fans are always on max, plus cooling pad.
 
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Iraklis Pazios

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Gus said:
What is it sitting on, hard surface with plenty of free air or duvet/carpet etc. Should never be latter it can't breathe on material as it absorbs the heat and reradiates the heat back at up.
Do you have any extra feet to raise it higher off the surface?
Gus said:
What is it sitting on, hard surface with plenty of free air or duvet/carpet etc. Should never be latter it can't breathe on material as it absorbs the heat and reradiates the heat back at up.
Do you have any extra feet to raise it higher off the surface?
Do you have a cooling pad?
Is it in direct sunlight or near a radiator or in a hot room with no air circulation?
Tried having a Desk fan blow straight over it?
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Do you have a cooling pad?
Is it in direct sunlight or near a radiator or in a hot room with no air circulation?
Tried having a Desk fan blow straight over it?
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My room is always a bit cold as I have an outdoors cat and keep a very large window open at all times. I haven't used a desk fan and I think it's ridiculous to need one for the cpu to not overheat when playing the original doom.
And please, read my actual post before asking things like having a cooling pad. I do and i use it, as I said in the post.
 
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DarkPaladin

Enthusiast
Iraklis Pazios said:
Thermal paste should be changed every 3-4 years. Not every 6 months. Fans are always on max, plus cooling pad.
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I typically re-paste both my CPU and GPU every 3-6 months (depending on how much the temps have increased) since I can't reach the fans without removing the heatsink.

Also, don't worry about re-pasting. It's scary at first but you definitely get better at it through trial and error. I'd recommend using these:
1) Thermal paste remover + purifier https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Sil...s=thermal+paste+remover&qid=1622513587&sr=8-4
2) Either Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut, Noctua NT-H", or Gelid Extreme paste
3) Use the "X" method when applying the paste, as (from my experience) it helps spread the paste evenly across the components
4) Be sure to screw in the correct order (the screws should have labels from 1 to 9) to ensure the heatsinks are evenly placed to the components
5) After applying the paste, check your laptop's temps with HWInfo64 and/or perform a CPU stress test to see if the temps have improved
 
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