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ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Many thanks for this thoughtful and detailed review. [emoji3]

These do help prospective purchasers get an idea of the PCS quality. The edit issue you probably had was because there is a limit to the number of characters per post (though I can't recall what the number is).

Thanks again. [emoji3]

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Scanian

Bronze Level Poster
For home use/gaming, the AMD Ryzen CPUs seems to me to be the best choice thinking value for money.
 
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Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
AI Suite is generally best not used if possible. Better than it used to be (!), still not really the go-to.

I did, however, run 3DMark this morning and the display was brilliant...it gave a score of just over 8200
Which benchmark did you run? Was it called Timespy or Firestrike?
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
A timespy result of 8200 sounds low.

If you had freesync / gsync enabled while you ran it, that would probably explain the ~10% lower score

Timespy tests give multiple results for the different components of the test, and you can link to the results.
e.g. one of mine from a while ago: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37629212?

To control CPU fans and case fans (assuming they can be controlled and are connected to the mobo), set a custom profile in the BIOS. Or use speedfan if you can get your head around it.
As for software, to control GPU fans MSI afterburner or EVGA "Precision X1" - not to be confused with all the other "Precision" software that are for different generations of GPU...
For general monitoring, MSI Afterburner has all you need I think.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Worth running again with gsync disabled. Score seems like it might be a little low. Perhaps monitor CPU and GPU temps during the run too.

The BIOS might sound intimidating but it was a similar GUI for the fans last I looked at the BIOS and AI suite. if it's working, great, but when AI Suite breaks at least you have a fallback :)
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
interestingly, there is a note in the settings that says "selected display is not validated as G-Sync compatible" so not sure what's going on there as surely that would mean there shouldn't be a G-Synce enable box).

The key word there is validated.

i.e. the monitor is not on Nvidia's official list of gsync compatible monitors and therefore it will not enable gsync by default, which it would for an officially validated monitor. But you can still turn on adaptive sync anyway.

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So you need to both enable gsync compatible in step 1, enable it for Windowed and Full Screen mode (or else it doesn't work in borderless windowed games) and the tick the box in 3, and apply. Even though the monitor isn't validated it should then work.

You can use Pendulum to make sure. If it stutters or you see tearing, it's not working.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Sounds like tearing, which means gsync / freesync isn't active.

The monitor's freesync range is 48-75hz, so it should be tear-free within that window of FPS. Pendulum lets you adjust the FPS.

60hz and 144hz are very specific numbers. Your framerate usually won’t be either. Where your PC’s framerate doesn’t match your monitor’s refresh rate, you can get stutter and/or tearing. Tearing is where the screen is showing parts of 2 frames at once.


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https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/gaming-monitors-guide.65464/#post-452121

On my PC I had to make some adjustments in CRU:
The net result was that not only does it work within the normal 48-75Hz range. but it extends the range from 48-75hz to 36-76hz, enabling Low Framerate Compensation. So no tearing at any framerate. It is technically a monitor overclock, although everyone with this monitor who wants to use freesync seems to do it.

I do have to use Rivatuner Statistics Server (RTSS - which is included in MSI afterburner) to cap FPS to ~72fps.
If frames aren't capped and the FPS goes over the refresh rate, freesync is disabled and you can get tearing. Sometimes games seem to blip over the cap, so capping them to below the monitor's refresh rate is quite common with freesync / gsync (e.g. 141hz for a 144hz monitor). More of an issue for some titles than others.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Thank you. Installed that Chipset Driver and there are no longer any Yellow Exclamation Marks....though I am not sure if it's because the drivers have been fixed or the Chipset drivers uninstalled the PCI stuff as those 3 items no longer list anywhere in device manager :unsure:

Interestingly, my computer is running quicker now! I am noticing a speed difference when opening new browser tabs etc...was quick before but even quicker now:)
I’m surprised that didn’t auto install, but yeah, normally pci devices point to chipset.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Yeah, I would've expected it all to auto-install...and, failing that, install when I installed the motherboard chipset stuff off the DVD. Those exclamation marks weren't there when I first got the computer and I presume PCS just installed things from the discs etc so not sure why it would be different this time...only things different internally from then is the addition of a Samsung SSD and a Blu-Ray Burner
The discs would be outdated by a long way especially concerning chipset drivers. Always use the website.
 

moosEh

Administrator
Staff member
Moderator
Ah the TXM power supply! That PSU which infuriates you by being ALMOST fully modular :).

Glad you managed to get everything sorted Nursemorph.
 

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
Moderator
Thanks...the PCS person who dealt with it was excellent and a credit to the company :)

It's funny...the infuriating part isn't the fact that it has wiring that cannot be disconnected...it's the fact it requires the total destruction of the builder's awesome wire management!! It felt like sacrilege....I found myself quietly apologising everytime I cut a zip tie :eek:

And so you should, having seen some evidence of what you do with your cables, I can only assume that the innards of your PC now look like someone has thrown a bowl of spaghetti in there :p
 
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