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For Football Manager 2020, Thoughts?

TomPat_

Member
This is a PC for work but FM 2020 on the side cough*

I have all the software required so just needed a fairly powerful but cheap enough machine to get through FM 2020 a bit faster. Comes to about £1,000 ex VAT sniff*

Anyone have thoughts on the build?

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CaseBE QUIET! BASE 601 TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
MotherboardASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 580 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage DriveNOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY DriveNOT REQUIRED
Power SupplyCORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor CoolingCoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition
Thermal PasteSTANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired NetworkingWIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating SystemNO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaNO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
BrowserFirefox™
Warranty3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build TimeStandard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Welcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
 
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Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Around the same sort of money (£45 over 1k), well balanced and will do quite well with FM2020. I would probably look to overclock to 5Ghz, but I would do this manually once you have the system. FM loves frequency..... even without the OC you're going to be hitting 4.9 anyway so should be pretty good...

Case
CORSAIR 275R AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £1,254.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/5w9dUCb5Xt/
 

Nursemorph

Well-known member
@Scott might want to have your eyes tested there....unless mathematics has changed dramatically in the last 24 hours, pretty sure £254 is a teensy bit more than £45 ;)
 

TomPat_

Member
Interesting, Scott. Because I changed the order yesterday.

Changed out the MB and went for other little changes. See changes below. cost of changes - 212€ ex VAT

More RAM - 32 GB @ 3200MHz (Possibly not needed until Skynet takes control), added in a WiFi Z390 Aorus Master MB and upped the 970 EVO to 500 GB.

I need to go back to work. I'm spending all my effing money on stuff I'm not going to need :poop:

Item 1Amendments Charge: €0.00
Item 2Change to 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED) from WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
Item 3Change to 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB) from 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Item 4Change to Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs Wi-Fi AC - RGB Ready from ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Item 5Change to 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W) from 250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Interesting, Scott. Because I changed the order yesterday.

Changed out the MB and went for other little changes. See changes below. cost of changes - 212€ ex VAT

More RAM - 32 GB @ 3200MHz (Possibly not needed until Skynet takes control), added in a WiFi Z390 Aorus Master MB and upped the 970 EVO to 500 GB.

I need to go back to work. I'm spending all my effing money on stuff I'm not going to need :poop:

Item 1Amendments Charge: €0.00
Item 2Change to 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED) from WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
Item 3Change to 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB) from 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Item 4Change to Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs Wi-Fi AC - RGB Ready from ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Item 5Change to 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W) from 250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Ahh I didn't realise you had purchased already.

The 32GB is a waste of money, I wouldn't do that at all. Pocket the money for T-Shirts & Pints of bitter once the lockdown is over.
The Aorus master is also a waste of money. It's a great motherboard but for your uses the Aorus Pro is overkill (I have it) never mind the Master. I would change this to the Pro and pocket the money.
The EVO is a great drive (Again I have one) but they aren't worth the money IMO. The SX6000 is fantastic value for money.
The 650W PSU is still massive overkill. You could power a 2080Ti with that which is a £1000+ GPU. The 550W TXm would be belt and braces and cover any future upgrades. There is no real point to middling between the 550w TXm and the 750 RMx.... I generally recommend either one or the other, going between is a bit pointless and wastes money.
With the WIFI, you will want the AX200 card as the basic one is pretty useless.
 

TomPat_

Member
Yeah, you're right on all counts but with the PSU I'd disagree - I feel it's better to have the little extra juice incase I need it further down the line.

But eff it. It's in production now and i am needing this thing ASAP. Ive a 4770K and HD 7950 at the moment and it is just not cutting it. Got a cheap motherboard I couldn't even bother to find out what it is. Cost 89€ in a sale.

The WiFI on the motherboard isnt up to task is it? I'm not looking for a gigabyte connection bear in mind.
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
Yeah, you're right on all counts but with the PSU I'd disagree - I feel it's better to have the little extra juice incase I need it further down the line.

But eff it. It's in production now and i am needing this thing ASAP. Ive a 4770K and HD 7950 at the moment and it is just not cutting it. Got a cheap motherboard I couldn't even bother to find out what it is. Cost 89€ in a sale.

The WiFI on the motherboard isnt up to task is it? I'm not looking for a gigabyte connection bear in mind.
Motherboard wifi is fine.
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Yeah, you're right on all counts but with the PSU I'd disagree - I feel it's better to have the little extra juice incase I need it further down the line.

But eff it. It's in production now and i am needing this thing ASAP. Ive a 4770K and HD 7950 at the moment and it is just not cutting it. Got a cheap motherboard I couldn't even bother to find out what it is. Cost 89€ in a sale.

The WiFI on the motherboard isnt up to task is it? I'm not looking for a gigabyte connection bear in mind.
Motherboard WIFI is absolutely fine, it's just the motherboard that's OTT.

The PSU requirements will be around 350W (maybe less) so 550W is massive headroom, never mind 650W. I always air on the side of caution but 650W is OTT.

If you're happy spending the extra cash though it's a great system :)
 

Stephen M

Spamtastic
Sorry but I could not resist this. During the current lockdown and with the much lesser amount of football being played in 2020 could you not get away with a less powerful CPU.
 

TomPat_

Member
Well...... they gave me this figure for Wattage so I think I might just keep the 650. Who knows what card I might get in the future or what have you
Maximum Required Power529W
I know it is the maximum Power and will run at much less Power when using. But in these crazy times, who knows what will happen. We have have to be vigilant. Especially with our power supplies 🧐😉
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Well...... they gave me this figure for Wattage so I think I might just keep the 650. Who knows what card I might get in the future or what have you
Maximum Required Power529W
I know it is the maximum Power and will run at much less Power when using. But in these crazy times, who knows what will happen. We have have to be vigilant. Especially with our power supplies 🧐😉
It won't do any harm... that's for sure. Not sure where the 500+ wattage comes from though. Back of the hand calculation has me around 350w.
 

TomPat_

Member
It won't do any harm... that's for sure. Not sure where the 500+ wattage comes from though. Back of the hand calculation has me around 350w.
Well.... as good as your advice and thoughts were on this machine.... I have decided to cancel the order.

It's taking too long and I cannot get a solid answer - because of the influx of COVID customers and whatnot. I've ordered the parts from Amazon and they'll be here when they say claim to be here (I need the closure). I can put the jigsaw together myself. Wouldn't be the first time. Won't be the last either, I am sure.

Hope everyone gets what they want and are happy but I am just too impatient. I want this for work too so there is a double impatience there when one combines it with FM20. I will be back to use this fantastic service again regardless (y)(y)(y)
 
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