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Gaming Beast advice needed

I need a laptop. I play Minecraft, Microsoft Flight Simulator X, X-Plane, etc. and I do Fusion 360 and vid editing. Is this spec good enough? I plan on using an external SSD for main storage. Is the extra good thermal paste worth it?

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + THX Spatial Audio
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GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT USA MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
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Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
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INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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30 Day Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5MP0W (6GB RTX-2060, i7-10875H, 240Hz)
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4 - 6 DAY DELIVERY TO CROATIA
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: 1.799,00 € including VAT and Delivery

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sibun1

Well-known member
With a laptop i would take the arctic extreme, you want every bit of added cooling solutions you can get and the standard paste is ok, but arctic is a high quality one.
Its different with desktops where you have a selection of coolers with their own pastes etc.

You said you are after a gaming laptop (gaming beast as you put it), which types of games are you looking at?
32GB RAM would normally be complete overkill, 16GB is plenty unless you are looking at a few niche games.

Max budget? Theres not as much configuration options with a laptop as a desktop, but is there a maximum budget here? Also, if another laptop were possibly better for your aims having a idea of budget helps look at what options there are.

Dead Pixel, personally i would go for the full year, I think its worth it. Dead pixels are incredibly annoying and from my experience, its not one of those things that always happen early if it is going to happen, a year is a good cover period (if they did longer i would of taken it on both laptops that i have previous had)
 
Thank you for replying!
I will switch to arctic paste is the next config I do, thanks.
My parents have a pretty good desktop (it, 24gb ram and 8gb vram) and Fusion 360 struggles on it a little. And some games I get FPS drops (not super GPU-heavy games though). So I think the 32GB is worth it.
Max budget is about 1700-1800 euro (not sure in pounds, sorry). I want a 15.6 inch one so it as portable as possible (I know it's still quite big though)
I'll get the 1 year dead pixel, wasn't sure about that, now I got it clarified.

If you need any more info, happy to tell you

TBT
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Fusion 360 is a professional CAD program? Something like CAD or high end photoshop will need 32GB really...but not for gaming.
A gaming setup and a professional CAD/Video editing/Photo editing setup would be quite different (and not just the RAM).

What is it you are actually going to use it for? because if its gaming, 16GB is more than enough in 99% of cases.
Your budget is also about £1600 (1800 Euro) so you are going to need to manage your expectations here... you can get a good gaming rig, or a good CAD/Design rig....but to get one that will do both is going to go well above your budget ceiling.
 
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Grumpywurzel

Enthusiast
For me, waiting to be shot down, I would swap out the Intel SSD for a PCS one if money is tight. I know you said you have an external SSD but...
In a Laptop you want to put the best GPU as possible. Like @sibun1 says, 16gb is more than enough to play the games, it will be the GPU that normally needs the extra grunt. Honest it's not worth the extra outlay, unless you deffo need the extra memory for that Fusion wotsit
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Your budget is going to limit what you can do here, and given its a laptop, the main priority (as Grumpy says) is the GPU.
Laptop GPU's are pretty much fixed... generally you cant upgrade them to a newer model, so the GPU needs to be as high spec as you can in order to get as much lifespan out of the laptop before it starts becoming a limiting factor on what it will run.

If you want CAD, the CPU and RAM are then the focus, and you want the most powerful processor and extra RAM you can put in.
You do not have the budget to do both.

Youve said you want gaming, so wasting money on 32GB RAM is pretty much pointless.
Grumpy also gives a good suggestion to go with PCS M.2 rather than the Intel (and the Intel one is known to have issues anyway...if you cant afford the samsung, PCS is your next best option and also significantly cheaper)

I would also have a proper dig to see if you have a Win 10 licence you can use, do you have an old laptop or pc that is being scrapped that you can transfer it from? it would really help you out here and put another £100 that you can put into the GPU choice.
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + THX Spatial Audio
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5MP7W (8GB RTX-2070, i7-10875H, 240Hz)
Delivery
4 - 6 DAY DELIVERY TO CROATIA
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: 1.587,00 £ including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-15/732rYwuY!a/

(1765 Euros roughly)
Personally... i would want a 2070 super but its out of your budget
 

SlimCini

Spamtastic
Meh. I'd save the money for the paste. I don't trust pcs laptop paste jobs. Sporadic but consistent reports of rushed paste jobs. Pocket the money, buy your own for not much more and repast it yourself when you get it. Then you know it's done well.
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Meh. I'd save the money for the paste. I don't trust pcs laptop paste jobs. Sporadic but consistent reports of rushed paste jobs. Pocket the money, buy your own for not much more and repast it yourself when you get it. Then you know it's done well.
This assumes that he has the knowledge and ability to do it.
It is not something i would suggest anyone did without knowing how given if you break something the warranty will not cover it.
 
This assumes that he has the knowledge and ability to do it.
It is not something i would suggest anyone did without knowing how given if you break something the warranty will not cover it.
I have taken apart one laptop in my life and that was to get its parts. I am a very technical person though so i probably could figure it out
 
I would also have a proper dig to see if you have a Win 10 licence you can use, do you have an old laptop or pc that is being scrapped that you can transfer it from? it would really help you out here and put another £100 that you can put into the GPU choice.
I probably don't
 
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Youve said you want gaming, so wasting money on 32GB RAM is pretty much pointless.
Grumpy also gives a good suggestion to go with PCS M.2 rather than the Intel (and the Intel one is known to have issues anyway...if you cant afford the samsung, PCS is your next best option and also significantly cheaper)
Can I change out the RAM in 2 or 3 years without taking apart the whole laptop?
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Can I change out the RAM in 2 or 3 years without taking apart the whole laptop?
Yes. Normally there are four slots, past experience with clevo tells me theres two from the bottom and then two under the keyboard, PCS normally use the two on the bottom first so you can easily get to these by removing the bottom access panel.

In regards to the possible source of Win 10...just be careful, many activation codes that you can get through "alternative" methods will work for a while...then when microsoft catch up with it it will get blocked.

My partner has one on his computer, off ebay for a few quid...works fine atm...but its just a matter of time...
 

sibun1

Well-known member
Just want to stress, it’s against forum rules to discuss any kind of pirating or torrenting.
I wasnt aware its specifically barred... but to point out, Im on the side of it not being a good idea, one way or another Microsoft will catch up and will shut it down.
 

ubuysa

Moderator
Moderator
Meh. I'd save the money for the paste. I don't trust pcs laptop paste jobs. Sporadic but consistent reports of rushed paste jobs. Pocket the money, buy your own for not much more and repast it yourself when you get it. Then you know it's done well.
Personally I think this is bad advice.

The number of problem reports we get on here that turn out to be down to a poor paste job is tiny compared to the number of builds PCS do.

This is just scaremongering IMO.
 

SlimCini

Spamtastic
Personally I think this is bad advice.

The number of problem reports we get on here that turn out to be down to a poor paste job is tiny compared to the number of builds PCS do.

This is just scaremongering IMO.
Maybe. But you also don't know how many have been sent out with mediocre paste jobs which aren't ever detected. It's not hard to paste properly. It's not like someone could do it wrong once by mistake without noticing. If you know how do it, you do it the same way every time and it takes no time at all.

There have been bad paste jobs reported consistently for years. Not a lot. But a few. Consistently. To the point where finding out how to do it yourself takes no time and the goods cost peanuts.
 

ubuysa

Moderator
Moderator
Maybe. But you also don't know how many have been sent out with mediocre paste jobs which aren't ever detected. It's not hard to paste properly. It's not like someone could do it wrong once by mistake without noticing. If you know how do it, you do it the same way every time and it takes no time at all.

There have been bad paste jobs reported consistently for years. Not a lot. But a few. Consistently. To the point where finding out how to do it yourself takes no time and the goods cost peanuts.
What I tokk isue with was your assertion that PCS paste jobs are bad and you should always do your own. That's just not good advice.
 

SlimCini

Spamtastic
What I tokk isue with was your assertion that PCS paste jobs are bad and you should always do your own. That's just not good advice.
Some of them are bad. That's a fact, not an assertion. My one was bad too from years ago. And I never said you should always do it yourself.

Doing your own paste job is bad advice? If you say so.
 
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