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Gaming PC Help!!

big285bird

Active member
Looking for help on either an All-in-One PC or a decent spec for one that i can build via the website. I have got a budget of between £700 and £1000 for the PC.
 

debiruman665

Enthusiast
Start off with what kind of games you play.

For example, I'm a big Civ/ 4x fan.

Super processors are a must, graphics not so much, heck probably integrated graphics could do it if you don't care about ultra mode.
 

debiruman665

Enthusiast
GTA can be CPU intensive and can utilise up to 8 threads according to this thread,

As much as you might want to jump on the RTX bandwagon the high-end GTX will offer more bang for your buck and can probably handle games at higher than 60fps.

RTX is for if you want to do 4k gaming at 60fps but you will suffer the early adoption cost. You can run all the same stuff as a GTX at the higher framerates also but only if you turn off the ray tracing which totally negates the point of having the newer card in the first place.

16GB of ram at stock speed should suffice.


I'm in no way an expert on the topic though.

As far as I can tell all modern cards can run all modern games at least low settings as long as you don't botteneck your system.

For the record, i can play Dark souls 3 and and metal gear solid V on my optimus III with a GTX 765
 

debiruman665

Enthusiast
I would assume the pre built ones have the graphics, ram, cooling and processor sensibly built.

Where you might want to tinker is the storage, the SSD and HD if you like to suit your needs. Its likely you probably have a lot of your own disks and only need a small SSD to hold the OS and just slot in your own SATA drives you own already which is what I did .

Im waiting on a new laptop from here and I got the bare minimum 128GB SSD to simply hold the OS
 

big285bird

Active member
I am looking at the pre built PC's, The Apollo Pro seems decent to me, could you confirm this? would this be sufficient or do you think 16GB of RAM is a necessity?
 

debiruman665

Enthusiast
16GB is generally accepted to be the uppermost limit.

I checked the ram online and its £50 for another stick which you can easily expand if you found it wasn't enough further down the line.


Are you choosing the next day pc for impatience reasons? I don't blame you, I'm on working day 8 right now and still in testing :'(
 

big285bird

Active member
well one yes i guess it is for impatience reasons and i also am not very confident enough to build my own from scratch as i am not fully aware of everything i would really need.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
So:

The prebuilt PCs that PCS offer are all built from the same components as the custom-spec ones.

The advantage of a custom spec is that you can tweak things. For instance with the Apollo Pro (if it's this one: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers-for-next-day-delivery/942/ ) I would very strongly recommend faster RAM, and 16gb RAM in 2x8gb configuration. Ideally a B450 motherboard, a better case, and a 550W PSU. Maybe a faster SSD as well, depending on pricing.

Ryzen CPUs can benefit a lot from faster RAM, and dual channel RAM (i.e. having 2 sticks rather than just 1). The better motherboard, PSU, and case can increase your upgrade options for the future, saving money in the long run.

You said the budget is between £700-£1000. Does that need to include a monitor, keyboard and mouse?

We can then suggest a custom spec, and explain why it's being suggested. :)

The components all come from the same 'menu' of parts ultimately, PCS won't let you order anything incompatible, and users on the forums can make suggestions about where the best bang for your buck is. PCS build and fully test all systems before shipping.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
In that case, maybe something like:

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six Core CPU (3.4GHz-3.9GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 Ti - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price £971.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/uSK22bpPnN/

So a similar sort of thing to the Apollo* Pro. Main differences being:

Faster, dual channel RAM, 16gb
- Dual channel can lift performance up quite a bit, at least for Ryzen CPUs: https://tinyurl.com/yyyyf8da - it doesn't always matter, and doesn't necessarily affect other, older CPUs in the same way. And beware of random videos on youtube. But it's an example.
- Faster RAM can lift performance as well:
https://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-m...ryzen-7-2700x-on-the-amd-x470-platform_205154
- 8gb is generally okay for gaming, but 16gb can help in some titles already and would be more futureproof. It's possible to overspend on trying to futureproof, but I think 16gb RAM is a pretty safe touch:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1770-how-much-ram-pc-gaming/

Slightly better case, potentially improving scope for upgrades. 550W PSU for the same reason. B450 motherboard which also supports more upgrades, including an additional M.2 SSD slot.

A faster SSD for another ~£10

Do you need the wifi card or are you connecting to the router with a cable? If you're using a wired connection, drop the wifi card and save a few quid.
 
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Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
What sort of budget for the monitor?

Or if you need monitor, KB + M (and anything else like a headset, mousemat, etc) what do you need, and what's the total budget for all these things?
 

big285bird

Active member
I need a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I don't really have a budget but i don't really want to spend a ridiculous amount on them. I would probably be willing to spend between £150 - £200 on a monitor but again i am not too sure whether this would get me a good quality monitor. For a keyboard and mouse i would probably just add one of the sets that PCS offer.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
The Cooler Master Devastator set (~£30) seems decent for an opening KB + M. You can always buy ultra expensive ones in the future if you decide you want that sort of thing :)

For a monitor, the 1660 ti is decent for 1080p high refresh (144hz monitor) or 1440p 60/75hz.

Since the games you listed are shooters, maybe 1080p 144hz.

The AOC G2590PX that PCS stock is an option (or you can buy elsewhere if you find it cheaper).

The AOC G2460PF is a similar kind of spec and is on sale for £165 on another store (normally ~£200+)

Whatever you get, you'll want it to have Freesync ideally, now that Nvidia (mostly) support freesync. Freesync (adaptive sync) matches the monitor's refresh rate to your GPU's framerate to help get rid of tearing and stuttering. Both of the ones I suggested there have Freesync.
 

big285bird

Active member
I was just looking at a monitor here, I have had a look at some of the things you mentioned like free sync and this appears to have it, could you confirm if this monitor would be suitable? It’s a MSI Optix MAG241C Full HD 23.6" Curved LED Gaming Monitor - Black
 
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