Help with a new PC build

[Klindog]

Hey guys. Planning to get a new desktop for gaming purposes and seeing as my friend got one from this site recently, I wanted some advice on the build he bought and if anything is worth upgrading e.g. CPU/GPU/Graphics card/Space. I currently use a ps4 connected to my TV and haven’t been PC focused for about 9 years.
I’ll be using it for MMO’s (), indie games and some single players if I can. My budget is around £1800 keeping in mind I’ll need a monitor as well, although I’ll be getting that a little later so wouldn’t mind some recommendations and things to look out for e.g. refresh rate etc.
This is the build my friend got and can post the URL to the thread:
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500P GAMING CASE (was changed for corsair 570X)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.25GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
Gigabyte X470 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

Get Wolfenstein: Young Blood with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Black™ SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD (up to 3470MB/s R | 2600MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1900 1,300Mbps/5GHz, 600Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,683.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[Oussebon]

Some of this hardware has been superseded by newer versions.

Is that ~£1800 including the monitor?

If you have a separate budget for the monitor, how much is that and when roughly do you intend to buy it?

That matters in terms of trying to balance the PC components with the monitor so that they fit well together.

 

[Klindog]

£1800 approx. for the PC alone but could spend a bit more if needed. I'm looking to buy the monitor around 2/3 weeks later for £200/250. Not exactly sure about prices so wanted some good recommendations.

 

[Oussebon]

I'm not really sure it's worth buying a spec along the lines of the above with a 2080 (now "2080 Super") for a £200 monitor.

Rather, rebalance a little away from the GPU to get a better monitor. And there are more cost-effective SSDs.

An RTX 2070 Super is much closer in price to the old RTX 2070 but closes the gap down with the RTX 2080 quite well:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA swings to the rescue of its $700 price point by "Super"-charging the TU104 silicon and giving it the fastest memory solution ever. In our testing, the RTX 2080 Super achieves a 16% lead over the RTX 2070 Super, making it a solid choice for 4K gaming that doesn't break the bank.

www.techpowerup.com

The best spec you're going to get for ~£200-250 for the monitor is 1080p 144hz. And as you can see either the RTX 2070 Super / RTX 2080 / RTX 2080 Super are all overkill. They all give more than satisfactory performance.

The RTX 2070 Super being £200 less expensive means you now have £450-550 or so for your monitor. Which opens up 1440p 144hz, freesync / gsync / gsync compatible. And even at this higher resolution, it can still pull ~100fps in Witcher 3.

You'll also likely want one of the new Ryzen 3000 CPUs, the R5 3600 being excellent.


Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 570X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X470-PLUS GAMING (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

Get Control & Wolfenstein: Young Blood w/ select GeForce RTX GPUs!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,515.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/xv26fWG9xE/


Plus something like the Dell S2716DG or the Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD

I'm personally looking forward to the LG 27GL850 due out very soon.

 

[Klindog]

Agree with the GPU and CPU. Why judge the framerate you get from a GPU by using The Witcher? (Just curious)
Any advice on cases (I'm a bit of a show off and besides the great tech inside I'd like the outside to look cool as well)
When is the new LG monitor supposed to come out?
Anything else to add?

 

[Oussebon]

Why judge the framerate you get from a GPU by using The Witcher?

Popular and demanding title I guess. But not a monster like AC:OD. Which gets benched on ultra by reviewers even if you'd never really play it at ultra because of how it canes performance on even beastly GPUs.

I linked the review so you can check out some other titles.

Any advice on cases (I'm a bit of a show off and besides the great tech inside I'd like the outside to look cool as well)

The 570X you mentioned in your post is a good case. As is the cheaper 460x. The H500P is best avoided versus alternatives.

When is the new LG monitor supposed to come out?

August sometime is what I heard. There is another UK PC component and system seller with it available for pre-order.

One should never pre-order before reviews of course, but Linus got his hands on one and give it a positive verdict:

 

[Klindog]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and I'll be ordering my PC today and hope it comes in time for me to game. Quick question: is there any point in getting the Ryzen 7 processors and roughly what's the longevity of my build so I know when I need to upgrade my parts.

 

[Oussebon]

For gaming, the R7 3700x isn't worth it at all.

For anything at all, the R7 3800x isn't worth it and should be avoided like the plague It would barely be worth it over a 3700x if they gave it away as a free upgrade

As for longevity, that depends on future games, and ultimately what you find you're happy with in terms of settings and framerates.
But, especially with a monitor that has adaptive sync, and a 2070 Super at 1440p, you should be good for a while.

The best way to futureproof is often to not overspend now, and keep the cash back for future upgrades. Why spend £150 more on a CPU that gives no real advantage in games today, and that by the time it does give an advantage will be obsolete anyway. etc.

The R5 is a sweet spot and the 2070 Super is great for 1440p.

 

[Klindog]

Hi again, thought I'd repost on this thread so I don't repeat info somewhere else. Bought the PC a week ago and ordered the lg monitor same time. Monitor is still on preorder and getting a little tired of it connected to my TV. I was thinking of cancelling my pre order and buying a different monitor I can (hopefully) get sooner or just wait?

 

[Oussebon]

"buy now or wait" is probably the most FAQ in PC gaming.

You could wait, there must be some models shipping as I saw a place that has it on pre-order suddenly get a customer review so someone seems to have got one. You could phone that store and ask if they have an ETA.

otherwise for alternatives, I would look at the Gigabyte AORUS monitor (I don't have the mode number to hand but there's only one of them!)

Hope the PC is otherwise all well