How does this build look, and monitor suggestions?

[GoatBoy88]

Hello people!
Is there anything obviously bad about this build?
And does anyone have a suggestion for a monitor to go with? I'd like to be playing games at 1440p and the budget is £200-£350, maybe £400.
Can Nvidia GPUs use Freesync monitors?

Here's the build:
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX K500 RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £1,612.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[polycrac]

It does depend on your uses, what do you plan on using it for - just gaming or Streaming, Video editing and so on too? I'd be inclined to bump the PSU a little - even if you don't need the extra power now it would make it easier to upgrade the GPU down the line - lets you extend the life of the PC.

There is a great monitor thread here: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/gaming-monitors-guide.65464/ (spoilers - yes Nvidia GPUs now play a lot more nicely with freesync)

Lastly, is this at the top of your budget and you want to cut corners or below it and you are looking to improve it?

 

[Scott]

Luxurious 1440P build including excellent monitor....

Just about everything is higher spec than your initial selections, other than the GPU.

If streaming/editing is not your thing then drop the CPU to the 3600 and the cooler altogether.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
IIYAMA G-MASTER GB2760QSU-B1 27"
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £2,036.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/HPQkeUNWqv/

 

[GoatBoy88]

It does depend on your uses, what do you plan on using it for - just gaming or Streaming, Video editing and so on too? I'd be inclined to bump the CPU a little - even if you don't need the extra power now it would make it easier to upgrade the GPU down the line - lets you extend the life of the PC.

There is a great monitor thread here: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/gaming-monitors-guide.65464/ (spoilers - yes Nvidia GPUs now play a lot more nicely with freesync)

Lastly, is this at the top of your budget and you want to cut corners or below it and you are looking to improve it?

Thanks for the reply!

The computer will just be for gaming, no streaming or video editing or anything like that.

There's still a little bit of room in terms of budget to go up, but not much. I want to have enough to get a good monitor to go with it.

 

[GoatBoy88]

Luxurious 1440P build including excellent monitor....

Just about everything is higher spec than your initial selections, other than the GPU.

If streaming/editing is not your thing then drop the CPU to the 3600 and the cooler altogether.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
IIYAMA G-MASTER GB2760QSU-B1 27"
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £2,036.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/HPQkeUNWqv/

Thanks for the reply!

Yeah the build is only for gaming, so streaming functionality not required. I think with the changes you've suggested the cost is too high. The monitor you've selected seems okay but I want to take advantage of the GPU and play at 1440p, possibly 4K.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thanks for the reply!

Yeah the build is only for gaming, so streaming functionality not required. I think with the changes you've suggested the cost is too high. The monitor you've selected seems okay but I want to take advantage of the GPU and play at 1440p, possibly 4K.

For 4k, you really need a 2080ti which is a LOT more money and would put you over the £2k mark without a monitor.

@Scott build is perfect for 1440p 144Hz and the monitor included is a good one.

 

[GoatBoy88]

For 4k, you really need a 2080ti which is a LOT more money and would put you over the £2k mark without a monitor.

@Scott build is perfect for 1440p 144Hz and the monitor included is a good one.

Okay, so say I want to do 1440p gaming, wouldn't I need a monitor that goes to 1440p resolution? Is a 1920x1080 monitor not too small, or am I not understanding how it works?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Okay, so say I want to do 1440p gaming, wouldn't I need a monitor that goes to 1440p resolution? Is a 1920x1080 monitor not too small, or am I not understanding how it works?

The monitor in @Scott build is a 1440p 144Hz monitor, it’s not 1080p.

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[GoatBoy88]

The monitor in @Scott build is a 1440p 144Hz monitor, it’s not 1080p.

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Sorry, when I clicked the link to Scott's build I went to the monitor section and I guess it showed me the first monitor on the list, rather than the one he selected. Anyways, my mistake.

Getting back to the build itself. What was wrong with my build? Scott upgraded almost everything on his build, but why? Obviously it will result in better performance, but I have to keep to a budget.

From the research I've done it seems like the GPU is the single most important factor for a gaming PC's performance, so I wanted to prioritise that over a higher end CPU. I read that not spending money on a CPU that has unnecessary functionality, like video editing and streaming capacity, and opting for a slightly cheaper motherboard is a good way to invest more into the GPU.

I am just trying to get a better understanding of components and how they work together so that I can make better informed decisions when picking parts.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Sorry, when I clicked the link to Scott's build I went to the monitor section and I guess it showed me the first monitor on the list, rather than the one he selected. Anyways, my mistake.

Getting back to the build itself. What was wrong with my build? Scott upgraded almost everything on his build, but why? Obviously it will result in better performance, but I have to keep to a budget.

From the research I've done it seems like the GPU is the single most important factor for a gaming PC's performance, so I wanted to prioritise that over a higher end CPU. I read that not spending money on a CPU that has unnecessary functionality, like video editing and streaming capacity, and opting for a slightly cheaper motherboard is a good way to invest more into the GPU.

I am just trying to get a better understanding of components and how they work together so that I can make better informed decisions when picking parts.

The build you'd posted wasn't suited to the 1440p monitor budget you'd given and there wasn't a budget for the build given, so @Scott specced an all powerful 1440p build which suited your monitor budget.

For a 4k 144Hz monitor you'd be looking at a minimum of £600, but more like £1k. The other suggestion would be a 1440p Ultrawide, but again, you're monitor budget doesn't cover this, so the only option is 1440p 144Hz.

The build you'd specced wasn't balanced for the monitor. It's not the case that you slap the most powerful components = MOAR POWER, they all fit the use case, the build fits the monitor as that is usually the bottleneck, and the components in the build fit the usage requirements, power requirements and budget.

What's your max budget then for the build?

 

[GoatBoy88]

The build you'd posted wasn't suited to the 1440p monitor budget you'd given and there wasn't a budget for the build given, so @Scott specced an all powerful 1440p build which suited your monitor budget.

For a 4k 144Hz monitor you'd be looking at a minimum of £600, but more like £1k. The other suggestion would be a 1440p Ultrawide, but again, you're monitor budget doesn't cover this, so the only option is 1440p 144Hz.

The build you'd specced wasn't balanced for the monitor. It's not the case that you slap the most powerful components = MOAR POWER, they all fit the use case, the build fits the monitor as that is usually the bottleneck, and the components in the build fit the usage requirements, power requirements and budget.

What's your max budget then for the build?

That's fair enough, I didn't specify the budget etc. I'm actually doing all this on behalf of someone else who is not savvy at all when it comes to custom PCs. He has told me the top of the budget, including a monitor, is around £2000-£2200. Certainly the monitor budget can be increased a bit, probably £400 max, so the computer budget being £1600-£1800.

The use will be 1440p gaming at highest settings. Looking for frame rates well above 60 (although I know it depends on the game).

When you say the spec isn't balanced for the monitor, could you be more specific about which parts are lacking or not appropriate?

 

[Scott]

I must admit, I'm totally lost here and confused about the confusion haha.

Your build was ITRO £1600 without a monitor. You suggested that there was an approx budget of £400 towards a monitor. From this, I presumed around £2k was the budget. With that in mind I put together a £2k build, including monitor, that would handle everything you could ever want.

I then suggested that if you didn't need to stream, edit, render etc... you could drop the 3700X

Without knowing your budget and your intended uses I could only hazard a guess as to what you were looking for. Now that you've said there is no streaming or editing.... my revised suggestion would be as follows:

Note that the monitor is now out of stock, unsurprisingly as it was a bargain. So.... the below system with a £300 monitor would see you inside budget.... still.

If you want to save money, drop the luxurious storage, luxurious PSU, drop the case to a FOCUS G, and if you're still not satisfied go with the B450 motherboard over the X570.

The below is about as perfect a system as you could get for your intended uses with the budget specified.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £1,530.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Amh3ybT4v8/

 

[GoatBoy88]

I must admit, I'm totally lost here and confused about the confusion haha.

Your build was ITRO £1600 without a monitor. You suggested that there was an approx budget of £400 towards a monitor. From this, I presumed around £2k was the budget. With that in mind I put together a £2k build, including monitor, that would handle everything you could ever want.

I then suggested that if you didn't need to stream, edit, render etc... you could drop the 3700X

Without knowing your budget and your intended uses I could only hazard a guess as to what you were looking for. Now that you've said there is no streaming or editing.... my revised suggestion would be as follows:

Note that the monitor is now out of stock, unsurprisingly as it was a bargain. So.... the below system with a £300 monitor would see you inside budget.... still.

If you want to save money, drop the luxurious storage, luxurious PSU, drop the case to a FOCUS G, and if you're still not satisfied go with the B450 motherboard over the X570.

The below is about as perfect a system as you could get for your intended uses with the budget specified.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: £1,530.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Amh3ybT4v8/

I understand, I wasn't clear from the get-go.

I appreciate the feedback and the suggested specs you've supplied. I do like the look of this second build you've suggested, but would it still work with a 2080 Super instead of a 2070? If not, why? It is important for me to try and understand the thinking behind your choices in the spec.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I understand, I wasn't clear from the get-go.

I appreciate the feedback and the suggested specs you've supplied. I do like the look of this second build you've suggested, but would it still work with a 2080 Super instead of a 2070? If not, why? It is important for me to try and understand the thinking behind your choices in the spec.

The 2080 Super is not a 1440p card, it's an entry 4k card or 1440 Ultrawide. Cards fit particular resolutions and framerates. A 2080 Super wouldn't go with a 1440p 144Hz monitor because a 2070 Super is ample for that resolution and refresh rate.

 

[GoatBoy88]

The 2080 Super is not a 1440p card, it's an entry 4k card or 1440 Ultrawide. Cards fit particular resolutions and framerates. A 2080 Super wouldn't go with a 1440p 144Hz monitor because a 2070 Super is ample for that resolution and refresh rate.

Ah I see, thank you. That's the information I needed.

 

[GoatBoy88]

Next question is regarding the CPU. Is the 3600X worth getting in place of the 3600?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Next question is regarding the CPU. Is the 3600X worth getting in place of the 3600?

No, it's literally the same processor just renamed, absolutely no benefit to the 3600x

 

[GoatBoy88]

No, it's literally the same processor just renamed, absolutely no benefit to the 3600x

Oh wow, really!? That's shady!

Honestly Thank you guys for your help. I'm going to go over the build with the person who actually wants the computer and see what they think.

 

[GoatBoy88]

Sorry, another question haha.

I went to save the quote and it stated that the PSU selected was way more than the calculated wattage needed. What benefit is there to choosing a 750W PSU when a 550W would be enough?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Sorry, another question haha.

I went to save the quote and it stated that the PSU selected was way more than the calculated wattage needed. What benefit is there to choosing a 750W PSU when a 550W would be enough?

Ah, sorry, I'd left that in by accident, I'd reduce it to a 650W of the Txm model, leaves you some headroom for upgrading the GPU to a more powerful one later on when you're able to upgrade the monitor.