I could really use some help/advice on this build (First time :D)

Case
CORSAIR SPEC-DELTA RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-9600K (3.7 GHz) 9 MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (4 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
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1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £1,255.00 including VAT and Delivery

I'm getting a gaming pc for my birthday and i do intend on doing very long gaming sessions of 4 hours plus and also use it to record my videos for my channel. I'm not the most pc smart person so If you guys have any suggestions for anything to add or remove to help improve the build it would be much appreciated. I would like to get relatively high frames and high graphics on most games, cg so and rainbow six siege mainly, and i dont really want to exceed £1300 (however it is an option). The monitor is not included in the price but i am getting a 144hz 1ms 1080p monitor and I do want to do very long gaming sessions of 4 hours plus.
Once again thanks for the support :D I do intend on doing very long gaming sessions of 4 hours plus.
 

Oussebon

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Do you expect to livestream your gameplay and/or edit videos? If you have a channel I assume at least one of those is inevitable?

The i5 CPUs are generally poor value at the moment, you're getting an expensive motherboard whose features you aren't really taking advantage of, slow RAM, a case with a fairly sealed-up front, a poor value cooler, and a budget PSU. I expect a little rebalancing could net you better value, but exact suggestions depend on the above :)
 
Do you expect to livestream your gameplay and/or edit videos? If you have a channel I assume at least one of those is inevitable?

The i5 CPUs are generally poor value at the moment, you're getting an expensive motherboard whose features you aren't really taking advantage of, slow RAM, a case with a fairly sealed-up front, a poor value cooler, and a budget PSU. I expect a little rebalancing could net you better value, but exact suggestions depend on the above :)

Livestreaming is not something i plan to do (not right now anyway) and i have a laptop thats pretty solid that i edit and render vids on.
also i thought 16gb of ram was good?? sorry im not the most pc smart.
 

Oussebon

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What's the spec of your laptop? The chances are your new desktop will be much better and rendering videos on that would make a lot more sense. Obviously not at the same time as gaming. :)

16gb RAM is fine as a quantity, but faster RAM is almost always worth getting (e.g. 3000MHz)
 
What's the spec of your laptop? The chances are your new desktop will be much better and rendering videos on that would make a lot more sense. Obviously not at the same time as gaming. :)

16gb RAM is fine as a quantity, but faster RAM is almost always worth getting (e.g. 3000MHz)

the laptop is an intel i7 something (im not sure it was my older brothers) and it has a 1tb storage capacity and some other things - very vague i know its decent for editing but terrible for gaming i think its probably the graphics card but i can barely run 60 fps on high settings for most games hence why i wanted a desktop for purely gaming.
 
What's the spec of your laptop? The chances are your new desktop will be much better and rendering videos on that would make a lot more sense. Obviously not at the same time as gaming. :)

16gb RAM is fine as a quantity, but faster RAM is almost always worth getting (e.g. 3000MHz)

So what build would you suggest ?
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I'd suggest something like this, which is better value overall and more futureproof thanks to the extra threads on the CPU (which will incidentally also make it better for video editing) and PCIE 4.0 on the motherboard

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX K500 RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!

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1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £1,203.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/2G2fSCWkCv/

Also larger SSD, case should have better airflow, and a better quality PSU. the stock AMD coolers are fairly decent though you could swap to the H100x
 
I'd suggest something like this, which is better value overall and more futureproof thanks to the extra threads on the CPU (which will incidentally also make it better for video editing) and PCIE 4.0 on the motherboard

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX K500 RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!

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1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £1,203.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/2G2fSCWkCv/

Also larger SSD, case should have better airflow, and a better quality PSU. the stock AMD coolers are fairly decent though you could swap to the H100x

Thanks it looks pretty solid and i like the look of the case. A few questions i know you did say but could you recommend a cheaper cooler than the H100x. Shouldn't the ssd be nvme? And is upgrading to the 3600x a better option? - Also do you reckon i could get 100+ frames on 1080p on games with that build. Could i also have high frames while playing modded games? I dont know too much about amd sorry about all the questions. Thanks for your help.
 

Oussebon

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but could you recommend a cheaper cooler than the H100x.
The stock AMD cooler. It's actually pretty decent. The cheap coolers aren't necessarily worth it over the stock cooler, and once you start spending ~£40 on a fan/cooler, you might as well just get the H100x that is much better than any of the cheaper options.

The stock cooler is easy to recommend because it's effective enough, and it's free. The H100x is fairly easy to recommned because it's very good, and has decent bang for buck versus mid-range coolers on offer. The others struggle to persuade as strongly.

Shouldn't the ssd be nvme?
If you want to spend the extra money on a 970 Evo or WD Black, sure. But the SX6000 offers decent bang for buck. It's faster than the 660p and Sata drives. The 760p isn't cheap enough to be worth the savings versus the much faster WD Black / 970 Evo ilk.

And is upgrading to the 3600x a better option?
No. It would barely be worth it as a free upgrade! It has been described as "$50 for a letter" which is about fair.

Could i also have high frames while playing modded games?
What games?

Also, what exact monitor are you getting?
 
The stock AMD cooler. It's actually pretty decent. The cheap coolers aren't necessarily worth it over the stock cooler, and once you start spending ~£40 on a fan/cooler, you might as well just get the H100x that is much better than any of the cheaper options.

The stock cooler is easy to recommend because it's effective enough, and it's free. The H100x is fairly easy to recommned because it's very good, and has decent bang for buck versus mid-range coolers on offer. The others struggle to persuade as strongly.

If you want to spend the extra money on a 970 Evo or WD Black, sure. But the SX6000 offers decent bang for buck. It's faster than the 660p and Sata drives. The 760p isn't cheap enough to be worth the savings versus the much faster WD Black / 970 Evo ilk.

No. It would barely be worth it as a free upgrade! It has been described as "$50 for a letter" which is about fair.

What games?

Also, what exact monitor are you getting?

144hz 108p 1ms
I plan to play alot of rainbow six siege, cs and some minecraft and other games. mainly the first two. -unrelated- So that amd proccesor is not as good as the i5 but its much better for editing and rendering? And whats the difference between the original motherboard and the one you suggested apart from price, does one have wifi and the other doesnt or something?
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I plan to play alot of rainbow six siege, cs and some minecraft and other games. mainly the first two. -unrelated- So that amd proccesor is not as good as the i5
It is overall as good as an i5 for gaming:
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The % difference is so small as to be generally pretty negligible.
And note, those results are with an RTX 2080 ti; a GPU that costs about as much as your entire PC. So the effect of the CPU on performance in the chart above is, if anything, exaggerated.

Note the difference between an R5 3600 and an i9 9900k here:
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With a GPU in the range of what you're getting, i.e. the RX 5700, the difference is near to non-existent, even compared with a much more powerful CPU than the 9600k

So it's debatable whether it's even true to say the R5 is weaker in gaming for your uses.

Also the R5 is a 6-core, 12 thread CPU, vs the i5 which is 6C 6T. This should make it more futureproof for gaming, in a similar way to how Intel's 4C/8T parts have held up much better than their 4C/4T parts. As well as making it way better for video editing:
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i5s just don't make much sense these days tbh.
 

Oussebon

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And whats the difference between the original motherboard and the one you suggested apart from price, does one have wifi and the other doesnt or something?
Which original one? You mean the one in your spec..?

Intel and AMD CPUs have different motherboards (and indeed different generations of CPU from each company have their own distinct motherboard series). So for an AMD CPU you need an AMD motherboard, and vice versa.

The X570-PLUS has PCIe 4.0, which will help it support faster GPUs in the future (we're not yet at a point where PCIe 3.0 is really an issue) and, in the more immediate future, it will help support SSDs that are twice as fast as the current top-end PCIe 3.0 SSD offerings. We're already seeing SSDs with 5000MB/s speeds, up from the 3500MB/s which is more or less the limit of what you'll see on PCIe 3.0 mobos.

If you mean 'what does the X570-PLUS have that the cheapest mobos in the AMD configurator (X470-PLUS)does not?' the answer is PCIe 4.0, USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C, and beefier VRMs to support more powerful CPUs as upgrades.

In very general terms, it's likely AMD's 500 series motherboards will support at least 1 more round of new CPUs, as AMD has promised support to 2020 for AM4 as I understand it. Whereas nobody expects Intel's next round of CPUs to be compatible with Z390 afaik?
 
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