Intel Vs AMD advice please

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MarkTaylor71

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My current PC order:

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-11700K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z590-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

I've always had Intel chipped PC's so placed an order but having read a review or two.. I'm undecided.
It's for a general use PC, audio and 4K video editing & perhaps higher spec.. I'm running a 10 year old i7 2700K so want this to last me a while.
Have I made a wrong choice?
 
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Steveyg

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
To be blunt yes you have made the wrong choice, AMD are far superior right now and look to continue that in future with what little we know

There are a number of things I would change about this build to be honest like CPU, CPU Cooler, Storage Set up and PSU. Then again PSU depends really on what GPU you're planning to put in there?
 
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TechNoodles

Member
There's some useful information here;

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk

TLDR; AMD's generally the better option. I've personally been using Intel CPUs since the Pentium 4 but with AMD's performance I've made the switch with my latest order. Check the link provided, it'll help you make up your own mind.
 
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MarkTaylor71

Member
Thanks for such quick replies, as for a GPU, for now I'll be using my existing GTX 960 4GB and will upgrade as funds allow, I'm not much of a gamer so it won't be a massive upgrade.
Within a budget of the current price, £1250 can anyone suggest alternatives please.
I will also be using a couple of my existing HHD's for storage and a couple of SSD's as working drives.
Reading the linked docs as we speak, interesting read.
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Ok this is an AMD build that will do you nicely now and that you can upgrade with a new GPU at a later date

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 15 to 18 working days
Price: £1,159.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/eAXn5ukVJp/
 
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Steveyg

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
MarkTaylor71 said:
Thank-you, that looks good.
At 850W, isn't the power supply a bit on the high side?
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I'll copy and paste my comment from another thread as I think I said it best there but to give you an insight into Martins thinking

When selecting parts especially a PSU you don't pick one for your current needs you try to select one based on your future needs. So you want more power than you currently need I prefer to aim about 60%. That way it gives you plenty of headroom to add components later. Especially these days with the GPU's creeping ever higher in the their power consumption it's only logical to think that should continue.

Right now minimum I would recommend for a system is 750W but even that could be limiting with Nvidia themselves recommending 850W for the 3080 for example.

Picking a PSU isn't that simple if you plan to have your computer last more than 3-4 years
 
AgentCooper

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
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Steveyg said:
give you an insight into Martins thinking
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DarTon

Well-known member
@MarkTaylor71. The 850W PSU assumes an upgrade path that would include a much more capable GPU, say in the 3080 territory but also tends to focus on those who do quite a bit of gaming and put the PC under more stress doing that.

You've mentioned that you aren't much of a gamer, and while you do intend to upgrade the 960, it "won't be a massive upgrade". If that is true then an 850W PSU is overkill in my view. With the 960, the spec @Martinr36 has put together draws < 300W. Even moving from a 960 (120W TDP) to a 3070 (220W TDP, a big upgrade and a lumpy cost) would still put you at < 400W. So a 750W would easily cover that.

If the GPU upgrade is even more modest (something more like a 3060 with a TDP of 170W) you could go down to a 650W. That would mean also downgrading from the higher quality RMx PSU to a medium quality TXm PSU. Again if you are confident that the majority of your PC usage is going to be productivity type apps, internet browsing etc, rather than hardcore gaming or intensive graphics etc then I'd say a TXm could work.

Note though that I'm out of consensus here and the majority of forum members see a 850W as the minimum for anything. It's just I see a PC as something for 4-6 years max, never for 10 years, so the potential upgrade path is less onerous.
 
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MarkTaylor71

Member
That all makes sense, I think I will g for a 750W power supply then.
Next question, I was just looking at revising my current order but I can't seen to change CPU's from Intel to AMD, how is this done?
Thanks.
EDIT: Chat is working now, seems I have to cancel the order and reorder from scratch
 
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Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
MarkTaylor71 said:
That all makes sense, I think I will g for a 750W power supply then.
Next question, I was just looking at revising my current order but I can't seen to change CPU's from Intel to AMD, how is this done?
Thanks.
EDIT: Chat is working now, seems I have to cancel the order and reorder from scratch
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Make it the RMx rather than the TMx
 
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Bigfoot

Grand Master
Some people have been successful in changing from an Intel to an AMD build on the phone, by having the quote number for the new build available. If you don’t have long lead items, such as the higher spec GPUs, it might be simpler to cancel and reorder.
 
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MarkTaylor71

Member
OK, just to check, this is the order now.. getting excited again...

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 15 to 18 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Price: £1,254.00 including VAT and Delivery
 
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Bigfoot

Grand Master
I would change the wireless card to the AX200. That gives you access to the less congested 5GHz band and includes Bluetooth
 
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DarTon

Well-known member
With regard to the Wi-fi card either go with the AX200 (at £11 more) or buy your own. Also do you need 32GB of RAM?
 
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