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Is this spec good for gaming and all-round performance?

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache

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Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 UD: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1200 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
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BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
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Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
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3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 14 working days
Price: £1,676.00 including VAT and Delivery
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Should I change anything about this spec?

I will also be using this PC for web and software development too.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, please?

Thank you.
 
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Oussebon

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I assume the budget is around £1700, preferably under?

What monitor are you gaming on?

If you need to buy a monitor, what is your budget for that?
 
Hi,

My max budget is £1700 - I would prefer to it to be less.

My current monitor is a Iiyama 24-inch widescreen, which I probably will upgrade in about 3-4 months after I have had the PC.

My max budget for a new monitor would be £250.

One more question. I know that I have chosen a spec based upon an Intel i9 9900k processor - but what are the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X professor's like for performance in comparison?

Thank you.
 

Oussebon

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What are you using the system for? Gaming? Anything other than straight gaming? e.g. specific software, video editing, photo editing, do you stream to Twitch?
 
Just standard gaming, no Twitch or other live broadcasting. Basic photo editing, e.g. not using Photoshop.

Web development, e.g. HTML, CSS, Javascript etc. I Would like to be able to run Android Studio for developing Android apps. I will like to be able to run Dosbox to play older PC games.

Any advice would be appreciated, please.

Thank you.
 

Oussebon

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An i9, or indeed an R9, CPU for your uses is very poor value.

For this kind of cash you should be able to get a very decent 1440p gaming system, and a monitor to boot.

An R7 3800x is also not worth it as it's more expensive than the 3700x for very little extra performance.

But tbh an R7 3700x doesn't really seem worth it either. The R5 3600 seems to give the best bang for buck for your uses.

e.g.

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X470-PLUS GAMING (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 14 working days
Price: £1,322.00 including VAT and Delivery

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Plus the monitor, with a spec of 1440p, 144hz, with freesync / gsync compatible / gsync. There are a lot of options in the £200-£450 range.
 
Thank you for your suggestions. Just to clarify I will also like to be able to play the latest games with very decent graphics as well as what I have already mentioned.

With this in mind, would my choice of processor still need to be changed?

Thank you.
 

Oussebon

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You're not going to get any meaningful advantage from an i9 versus an R5 CPU.

Whereas, the extra resolution and refresh rate from a high refresh 1440p monitor will make an immediate difference to the gaming experience, as will adaptive sync.
 

Oussebon

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Hi,

I have a few questions before I actually build/buy a new PC.

  1. What make/model(s) are the 16x speed Blu-ray drives that PCS stock?

    Can the fans pre-installed in the FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window) be changed for a different colour?
    • If the pre-installed fans cannot be changed, would anyone be able to suggest which colour LED strip would look ok for this particular case?

      I am thinking of having the OS installed on the m.2 SSD. But having a standard 3.5 2TB HDD for applications and games. Would this affect the performance of any applications and or games that I might be running?

      In addition to applications and games, I will also be just using some of the space for file storage. Would it be best to partition the HDD?

    • Are there any advantages of choosing Windows 10 Pro over Home? Can you delay Windows Updates longer than a few hours if needed from being installed if there has been an update(s) that have not been installed properly?

    • Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, please.
Thank you.
 
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Oussebon

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What make/model(s) are the 16x speed Blu-ray drives that PCS stock?
No idea, you'd need to ask.

Can the fans pre-installed in the FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window) be changed for a different colour?
They're not RGB LED, I think they're just white LED. If you were to change the fans yourself/ buy new ones, the smarter spend would instead be to buy a better case with RGB fans e.g. Corsair Crystal 460X (I'm avoid some of the cheaper ones).

I am thinking of having the OS installed on the m.2 SSD. But having a standard 3.5 2TB HDD for applications and games. Would this affect the performance of any applications and or games that I might be running?
Yes. OS + programs + favourite / most played games on the SSD. Rest on the HDD. I don't think it's worth partitioning. Just separate things out with a sensible system of folders :)
 
Hi,

Are either of these monitors suitable to have a good gaming/user experience?

AOC G2790PX 27" LED Gaming Monitor

IIYAMA G-MASTER GB2760QSU-B1 27"

I have also been looking at the m.2 SSD drives that PCS have available.

With some games + latest patches etc taking up 100GB space, would it better to get a 2TB m.2 SSD?

For example, I might get either one of these below and use it as the main drive with the OS, games and applications on this and also get a smaller internal HDD, e.g. 500GB or 1TB for file storage.

2TB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW)

2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)


Would this work ok? Or is it not recommended?


Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, please.

Thank you.
 

Oussebon

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Are either of these monitors suitable to have a good gaming/user experience?

AOC G2790PX 27" LED Gaming Monitor

IIYAMA G-MASTER GB2760QSU-B1 27"
You ideally want a 1440p, 144hz, monitor with adaptive sync. The iiyama monitor has that. The AOC one is only 1080p.

With some games + latest patches etc taking up 100GB space, would it better to get a 2TB m.2 SSD?

For example, I might get either one of these below and use it as the main drive with the OS, games and applications on this and also get a smaller internal HDD, e.g. 500GB or 1TB for file storage.

2TB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW)

2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)


Would this work ok? Or is it not recommended?
That's the wrong way around. Small HDD and large SSD is poor value for a gaming system. To get a 2TB SSD, you'd be spending a huge amount. But if you were going to spend another £300-400 on your gaming PC, it would make more sense to spend it on a better monitor and a better GPU to go with the better monitor.

500gb is fine for an SSD, but if you want more space then swap to a 1TB SX6000 SSD.

And buy a 3TB HDD.

You can move games between drives very easily, with just a few mouse clicks within Steam. So when you stop playing a game but don't want to uninstall it just yet, swap it over to the HDD and move your new game(s) to the SSD.

You can always add more storage in the future. Whereas the monitor and the key components in the PC you'll want to keep for as long as reasonably possible, and also matter much more to gaming performance. So if you want to spend more on the PC invest in those, before spending £300+ more on storage :)

For now, if you want more storage, I suggest upgrading the SX6000 to 1TB, and the HDD to 3TB.
 
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