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Just ordered this setup but,

artas3d

Active member
Good afternoon ladies and gents,

Decided to get a new PC after 3months hiatus when I fried my gpu ( it was a 6year old setup so thank god for that)
This is what I’ve come up with 90% for gaming.

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 750D FULL TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
500GB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 2.5" SSD, (upto 560MB/sR | 535MB/sW)
2nd Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ASUS STRIX Soar 7.1 PCIe sound card
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

I have two questions.
Do I need water cooling for the GPU?
Also, which exactly GPU will go in there?

Kind regards,
Robert R
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
What monitor are you pairing it with, what resolution and refresh rate or make and model if you're unsure?

Why the soundcard? It's not like the old days when you had to have a soundcard to get any decent sound, nowadays motherboard sound is just as good as a soundcard, but there are specific uses for a dedicated soundcard.

You say 90% gaming, what's the other 10%?
 

artas3d

Active member
I’m still on the old, old monitor, it’s a Prolite E2271HDS iiyama.
Can you suggest a decent monitor 24/27” within £300 to upgrade to?

I suppose you are completely right about the sound card. It’s been maybe 7/8yrs since I dabbled with pcs and things have changed for sure. I guess I should remove it?

The other 10% is literally stuff you’d might do daily, search the internet, music, videos, streams, let the little sister do a PowerPoint for school etc etc :)
 

SpyderTracks

Huntsman
Moderator
I’m still on the old, old monitor, it’s a Prolite E2271HDS iiyama.
Can you suggest a decent monitor 24/27” within £300 to upgrade to?

I suppose you are completely right about the sound card. It’s been maybe 7/8yrs since I dabbled with pcs and things have changed for sure. I guess I should remove it?

The other 10% is literally stuff you’d might do daily, search the internet, music, videos, streams, let the little sister do a PowerPoint for school etc etc :)
TBH I would cancel the build entirely and get some advice on an AMD build which would be bettter suited.

You can do much better for the same or less money.
 

Oussebon

Moderator
Moderator
Agreed with the above.

If you state the budget, and the price that spec came to (and we know there is ~£300 on top of that including a monitor) that will help suggest alternatives :)
 

artas3d

Active member
This build came up to £1900.
My old setup was AMD, I was fairly keen to go Intel and Nvidia this time around but I’m open some suggestions for AMD system if we can squeeze in a new monitor in the £2000 budget and still keep the performance on par with what I got there.
Thank you kinds sirs
 

artas3d

Active member
TBH I would cancel the build entirely and get some advice on an AMD build which would be bettter suited.

You can do much better for the same or less money.
Thanks for the advice, how would I go about cancelling the build? At the moment there is no option there due to being in “referred for finance” ?
 

artas3d

Active member
Looked at the AMD Systems. Came up with this including a decent monitor I believe but any suggestions? Stuck with this mobo, I don’t think it needs upgrading the PLUS is pretty good from what I’ve heard correct me if I’m wrong. Changed to 3200mhz sticks and that’s about it. What do we think?

£1942

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG271CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 144Hz
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 10.30AM)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 5 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Promotional Item
Get up to 3 Games with select AMD Radeon RX 5000 Series Graphics Cards
Price: £0.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Bn!cwe5Qyh/
 

Nursemorph

Well-known member
A few thoughts:

- I would consider leaving off the Blu-Ray writer and sourcing it elsewhere...beyond the fact you can get one cheaper elsewhere, you can't be sure what brand PCS will provide. The burner will cost you £72 where you can get a good Pioneer burner for £62.
- If you really need a Wi-Fi card, then upgrade it to the Intel AX200....apparently, it is far superior to the one you chose and is worth the extra £10 (it is always recommended on here for builds)
- Not really sure you need the Liquid cooler as the stock AMD cooler is really good (though maybe the 3700 runs hotter than the 3600 so it's possible it is needed...wait for a more expert opinion here)
- If you stay with the Focus case, then the extra fan should not be needed...the case already has 2 front fans and a rear fan and has very good airflow. If needed, you could always buy extra fans later. I would consider getting a better case though...as good as the Focus case is (I have one and I love it), it is a budget case and yours is not a budget build....someone more knowledgeable will be able to advise better

Regarding your previous question, as your build is on finance, I suspect you may need to phone PCS to cancel the build as the process is obviously different than buying the build normally with payment up-front
 

artas3d

Active member
A few thoughts:

- I would consider leaving off the Blu-Ray writer and sourcing it elsewhere...beyond the fact you can get one cheaper elsewhere, you can't be sure what brand PCS will provide. The burner will cost you £72 where you can get a good Pioneer burner for £62.
- If you really need a Wi-Fi card, then upgrade it to the Intel AX200....apparently, it is far superior to the one you chose and is worth the extra £10 (it is always recommended on here for builds)
- Not really sure you need the Liquid cooler as the stock AMD cooler is really good (though maybe the 3700 runs hotter than the 3600 so it's possible it is needed...wait for a more expert opinion here)
- If you stay with the Focus case, then the extra fan should not be needed...the case already has 2 front fans and a rear fan and has very good airflow. If needed, you could always buy extra fans later. I would consider getting a better case though...as good as the Focus case is (I have one and I love it), it is a budget case and yours is not a budget build....someone more knowledgeable will be able to advise better

Regarding your previous question, as your build is on finance, I suspect you may need to phone PCS to cancel the build as the process is obviously different than buying the build normally with payment up-front
Thanks for the reply and good suggestions.

Taking out the Blu-ray, it opens up a lot more options for a case as most of them could not accommodate it, but they look way cooler :)

Also, good spot on the Wi-Fi card I thought I removed it as it will be 100% Ethernet cable. Save couple quid there aswell.

With the cooling I’ve no idea myself, I believe that one was on one of the pre-configured PCs with that CPU so I left it as is but definitely open to change that if it’s not necessary.

I may give them a call but for now I’ve sent them an email saying I want to cancel that build, and I’ve received the automated email confirming they have my message. I’ll keep an eye on the status of the order because I wouldn’t want them to go into the build and waste their time.

thanks again.
 

Nursemorph

Well-known member
Thanks for the reply and good suggestions.

Taking out the Blu-ray, it opens up a lot more options for a case as most of them could not accommodate it, but they look way cooler :)

Also, good spot on the Wi-Fi card I thought I removed it as it will be 100% Ethernet cable. Save couple quid there aswell.

With the cooling I’ve no idea myself, I believe that one was on one of the pre-configured PCs with that CPU so I left it as is but definitely open to change that if it’s not necessary.

I may give them a call but for now I’ve sent them an email saying I want to cancel that build, and I’ve received the automated email confirming they have my message. I’ll keep an eye on the status of the order because I wouldn’t want them to go into the build and waste their time.

thanks again.
Firstly, I'd suggest calling PCS rather than waiting for them to email you back....there's no telling how long it will take them (a few hours or a few days depending on how busy they are).....when wanting to cancel an order, it is always better to phone if you can't cancel it online, especially with a 5 day fast track (believe me, it goes quick...my PC was dispatched within 3 days!)

As for the rest:

Well, if you don't need the Blu-Ray, then don't bother with it.....not having one does open up the case selection massively and you could always buy an external burner down the line if you found you needed one.

Glad you will save some money with the Wi-Fi.

As to the cooling, as I said, the stock cooler on the 3600 is more than adequate so I imagine the one on the 3700 is but I don't know for sure.
 

artas3d

Active member
I’ll give them a call within an hour when I’m free it’s better to be sure.

The Blu-Ray is out.

I’ve done some research and it looks like you are right the provided CPU fan is good enough and I won’t ever do any over clocking so thats even more savings.

So, that opens up £150/200 for a case. I do like the Be Quiet!Base601 but only one front fan and looks pretty covered up maybe bad option?
 

Nursemorph

Well-known member
Unfortunately, I cannot help with choosing a case as I do not have much knowledge of them. The 601 does look like a nice case...only having one fan isn't always bad if the case allows sufficient flow through it. All I can suggest is to do some searching on Google (other search engines available!!) until someone more knowledgeable can provide their input
 

artas3d

Active member
Considering all the suggestions I’ve come up with this as the final build that now I’m fairly happy with.


Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG271CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 144Hz
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 10.30AM)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 5 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Promotional Item
Get up to 3 Games with select AMD Radeon RX 5000 Series Graphics Cards
Price: £including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/BFpvye7RaT/

Includes a £350 monitor and the build is £130 less than the original Intel/Nvidia system without the monitor. Having said that I did remove the extra water cooling on the CPU, wireless card, audio card and Blu-Ray. This way I was able to also grab a nice case I believe and the RGB version of ram. Configuration did say the system should run at 520W with 20% allowance but the 650W is fine if I ever need upgrade. Grabbing the monitor at a later date with the original system would set me back to £2200.

All in all thanks for all the good advice guys because now it looks more reasonable.
 
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Scott

Moderator
Moderator
I would switch things up a little bit personally.

The X570 nets you nothing, I would save the money and go for the B450. This board is aimed at the highest end AMD chips or people looking for the insanely fast storage. It doesn't support your uses in any way so is a bit of a waste of cash.

The 750RMx PSU isn't much more cash, offers more headroom for the highest end GPU in the future and also runs silent most of the time. It's completely modular and very premium. I have had it's older sibling for around 10 years and it has served me very well through multiple systems. I always buy a PSU with the consideration of future potential as there's no reason to bin a good one.

I wouldn't worry about fast tracking either. They generally send it out as soon as they can anyway, the fast track would only get you a day or 2 I would have thought. Better to pocket the savings or put it towards shiny bits.

Monitor looks great.

With all the changes....

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG271CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 144Hz
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 10.30AM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,810.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/F9AfvNrnWK/
 

artas3d

Active member
I would switch things up a little bit personally.

The X570 nets you nothing, I would save the money and go for the B450. This board is aimed at the highest end AMD chips or people looking for the insanely fast storage. It doesn't support your uses in any way so is a bit of a waste of cash.

The 750RMx PSU isn't much more cash, offers more headroom for the highest end GPU in the future and also runs silent most of the time. It's completely modular and very premium. I have had it's older sibling for around 10 years and it has served me very well through multiple systems. I always buy a PSU with the consideration of future potential as there's no reason to bin a good one.

I wouldn't worry about fast tracking either. They generally send it out as soon as they can anyway, the fast track would only get you a day or 2 I would have thought. Better to pocket the savings or put it towards shiny bits.

Monitor looks great.

With all the changes....

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG271CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 144Hz
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 10.30AM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,810.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/F9AfvNrnWK/
Great suggestions.

I will switch to the B450 definitely.

My old rig actually has the 750W RM but only needs 550W so I could potentially switch them up down the line if needs be but great thought.

Also, I notice you’ve selected a different CPU cooler, was that intentional? I’ve opted for the stock AMD cooler that comes with CPU.

Oh also, I will hand down the old rig to my cousin most likely when I replace the GPU so it’s fine with the new Windows.

Also, I’m going to be home for the next 3 weeks and my old rig is just dead on my desk :( need replacement ASAP.

Thank you again.
 

Scott

Moderator
Moderator
Great suggestions.

I will switch to the B450 definitely.

My old rig actually has the 750W RM but only needs 550W so I could potentially switch them up down the line if needs be but great thought.

Also, I notice you’ve selected a different CPU cooler, was that intentional? I’ve opted for the stock AMD cooler that comes with CPU.

Oh also, I will hand down the old rig to my cousin most likely when I replace the GPU so it’s fine with the new Windows.

Also, I’m going to be home for the next 3 weeks and my old rig is just dead on my desk :( need replacement ASAP.

Thank you again.
I opted for the cooler as the 3700X can run a little hotter than the 3600. It's not necessary but it's a good way of guaranteeing longevity.

It's a very cheap cooler but it's a 240mm radiator one that has RGB fans and looks amazing. For the money it's more than worth it and it will also facilitate airflow throughout the case helping out the other components.

I feel your pain with the delivery but the expedite doesn't guarantee a time unfortunately. If it's worth it to you then go for it, just be sure to claim the money back if it doesn't make it in time :)
 
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