My Brothers New PC - Help Please!

samwil

Enthusiast
Hi Guys,

Can I Get some advice for a new build PC?

My brother is mainly looking to max World of Warcraft, with some future proofing ideally to play other games as and when released.

I'm a little out of the loop to help him my current PC is 3 years old, but his budget is under £800.00.

Any suggestions/ builds please.

As I understand it Ryzen is still the way to go. And maybe an AMD GPU but I personally do not have good experience of them personally, so I'd prefer him to be on Nvidia.

There is room for upgrades shortly, so taking that into account would also be wicked.

Thanks in Advance!
 

samwil

Enthusiast
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Case
PCS SPECTRUM G ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 4500 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.1GHz/11MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X V2 : DDR4, USB 3.2 - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
8GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3000 MB/R, 1200 MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £823.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/Vc7byn58eu/
 

Steveyg

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Yeah mate, no one is going to recommend that build it's not really good for anything

Really old processor, 1 stick of RAM will kill performance in any build they are designed to be ran in pairs with 16GB now seen as the minimum for any build. Poor storage set up that we wouldn't recommend and a budget office computer PSU mate. Unfortunately at your budget there isn't much we can recommend
 

Steveyg

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
This is the closest I can get to something worth buying mate

Case
PCS SPECTRUM G ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Six Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.4GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 - HDMI
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £915.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/ss!JYPWKun/
 

SpyderTracks

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Just be aware that even older games like WoW will get graphics engine upgrades every so often as they do, the requirements go up

Their own recommended specs are a GTX1080 for 1080p play, that's far higher than a GTX1650, more on par with an RTX 2060 super or RTX 3060 I'd say.


Choosing that GPU will put you out of minimum requirements extremely soon. I wouldn't recommend it.
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
This is the closest I can get to something worth buying mate

Case
PCS SPECTRUM G ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Six Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.4GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 - HDMI
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £915.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/ss!JYPWKun/
Agreed, though I would absolutely spend the extra £12 to get a halfway decent case, the Lian Li 215.
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Just be aware that even older games like WoW will get graphics engine upgrades every so often

Their own recommended specs are a GTX1080 for 1080p play, that's far higher than a GTX1650, more on par with an RTX 2060ti I'd say.


Choosing that GPU will put you out of minimum requirements extremely soon. I wouldn't recommend it.
They're stating that a 45W Intel laptop iGPU or a 760 is the "minimum" spec. A desktop 1650 will easily be within the minimum spec, albeit not the "recommended" spec, for a fair while.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
They're stating that a 45W Intel laptop iGPU or a 760 is the "minimum" spec. A desktop 1650 will easily be within the minimum spec, albeit not the "recommended" spec, for a fair while.
That's kind of my point though, I would never ever buy a new system to be at minimum spec, to me that's insane and incredibly poor value. Minimum spec in my experience is a poor experience however you look at it. It looks terrible and will stutter.

for the sake of saving up a tiny bit more, you open yourself up to a far superior life expectancy and general performance.
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
That's kind of my point though, I would never ever buy a new system to be at minimum spec, to me that's insane and incredibly poor value. Minimum spec in my experience is a poor experience however you look at it. It looks terrible and will stutter.

for the sake of saving up a tiny bit more, you open yourself up to a far superior life expectancy and general performance.
No disagreement there!
 

samwil

Enthusiast
Hi Guys,

Budget has quite drastically changed and were looking sooner rather than later for the PC.

Were now at £1600, excluding monitor and peripherals.

I'm thinking a 3070 Ti and a 5800x may be a nice way to start us off.

Any advise on this please?

I've advised him to stay tuned to the review builds on the reviews page for a while and unfortunately nothing has come up recently. Do we know if this will change at any point? Are they scheduled or random?
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hi Guys,

Budget has quite drastically changed and were looking sooner rather than later for the PC.

Were now at £1600, excluding monitor and peripherals.

I'm thinking a 3070 Ti and a 5800x may be a nice way to start us off.

Any advise on this please?

I've advised him to stay tuned to the review builds on the reviews page for a while and unfortunately nothing has come up recently. Do we know if this will change at any point? Are they scheduled or random?
That's quite a shift!

What monitor will you be using? That governs everything else.

The reviews page (presuming you mean this one) isn't that helpful as it generally looks at prebuilts.
 

samwil

Enthusiast
So using the desktop buying guide as a reference this is what I've come up with. Not confident of some things, especially the processor cooling. Any thoughts? Thank you!

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-12600KF (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
900GB ENMOTUS FUZEDRIVE M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3470MB/R, 2000MB/W, 24GB SLC for endurance)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W CX-650F RGB SERIES™ POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 2018 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,526.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/Bh78UC6Nw6/
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Here's what I'd go for in your shoes:

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-12600KF (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache To save a bit, the 12400F is an option and wouldn't be much slower in gaming
Motherboard

ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready Presuming you don't need WiFi?
Memory (RAM)

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB) Cheaper than the RGB 3600 stuff
Graphics Card

8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW) Good SSD - ideally I'd configure two with a faster boot drive...
Power Supply

CORSAIR 850W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Capacity for future upgrades
Power Cable

1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler Should be enough for the 12600K in gaming
Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,536.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/FEeHDFJuHJ/
 
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