My new gaming PC - suggestions please

[matteoricci706]

Hello, my PC is in production stage… any suggestion? TY

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs WIFI - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)
Intel Optane Memory
32GB INTEL® OPTANE MEMORY - USE WITH MECHANICAL HDD
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i PRO Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
LED Lighting
50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
ASUS PCE-AC88 AC3100 2100Mbps/5GHz, 1000Mbps/2.4GHz
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
Italy/Italia - Italian Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Cable Management
3 x PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Insurance
Simplesurance Purchase Protection inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 11 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - Italy

 

[ubuysa]

What will it be used for?
What did that come to, and what's your budget?

Why 32GB of RAM? If you have some memory hungry software then fair enough, but for gaming and geneal use it's way overkill.

Why the Optane? You have a decent SSD for Windows and programs and most user data doesn't need the performance boost you (might) get from Optane (I can explain why if you want me to). The main exception is high-res images, Optane will benefit loading those (probably - because there's no guarantee with cached storage). I'm not convinced that Optane is cost effective for most users.

Just be aware that another PCS customer found that the instantaneous current draw at switch on using that 1000w PSU would trip his mains breaker. If you look that PSU up you'll find it's a common issue. The PCS user solved it by installing a UPS to handle the inrush current. Do you really need that much available power?

 

[matteoricci706]

Thanks for your advice!!
I want a PC that can be used for VR, high gaming resolutions and with the rhino x56 flightstik. In my old PC I had a power issue so I opted for 1000w. If is too much I can switch to 850w.

Thanks again!

Normally I buy PC to be used well at least 5-7 years without modifications.
Thanks again!

 

[neewhom]

1000w is definitely overkill, 650w is enough for this build, but go 850w if you plan to overclock. Also i would change 32gb RAM for 16gb but faster clock speed. 3000 or 3200

 

[matteoricci706]

Thanks again!

I have modified the order with 850w and a 512mb ssd instead of 256 mb. The differences between 2600 ram and 3000/3200 is a lot in terms of system improvement?

 

[SlimCini]

2080ti surely?!

 

[matteoricci706]

Too much money differences between 2080 and 2080Ti...

 

[Oussebon]

What monitor are you gaming on? What resolutions and refresh rates?

I'd suggest you wait a few days for AMD to announce their Zen 2 CPUs. Announcement expected 27/28 May. See what we know then.

If you're gaming at 4k it's likely the best option for you now would be an AMD Ryzen CPU + RTX 2080 ti rather than i9 + 2080. And with AMD's new CPUs thay could be even more true.

Normally I buy PC to be used well at least 5-7 years without modifications.

This is not a good plan. Any high end gaming PC should expect to have the graphics card upgraded a few times during its life.

 

[matteoricci706]

Thanks for your advice!
Yes i have a 4k monitor (alienware 25 - Full HD (1080p) 1920 x 1080 A 240 Hz).
I would try to upgrade graphic card during the PC lifetime but I always have fear to have power issue due to more power usage of new components.

 

[SlimCini]

Too much money difference yet you're willing to pay for a 9900k? Dude, come on.

 

[matteoricci706]

Too much money difference yet you're willing to pay for a 9900k? Dude, come on.

The single components chosen for this Pc are a compromise between money and stats... maybe not the better compromise but I have a maximum budget and it wasn't simple to choose between components

 

[Oussebon]

1) (alienware 25 - Full HD (1080p) 1920 x 1080 A 240 Hz). - that's not 4k?

2) if you have another, 4k monitor, the CPU is a lot less important in determining gaming performance at 4k. In fact the difference between an AMD R5 2600x and an Intel i9 9900k would be about 1-2%, while a 2080 ti gives 25-30% more performance than a 2080.
The savings from an AMD R5 would easily pay for a 2080 ti.

3) AMD's Zen 2 CPUs may affect the pricing of current CPUs, and/or provide CPUs even closer to Intel's for gaming at a lower price.

So better to wait for next week before deciding what needs to be compromised on budget.

 

[matteoricci706]

1/2) yes, sorry, I want to buy a 4k monitor but atm I have a full HD and I have to wait a bit before I can buy another.
2) I have my order done... atm with my old PC with serious issues I need a new one... I can't wait anymore

 

[Oussebon]

You seriously can't wait 4 days to spend ~£2000+ on something?

What is the budget for the system? What is the price of the spec you posted above?

There might be a better choice

 

[matteoricci706]

3000 euros is the full price

 

[Oussebon]

If you look at this page: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/reviews/ PCS have Review builds, which are fixed specs sold at (usually) discounted prices.

The Vortex Ultima R is €2.662,00 (including delivery, warranty, etc) and has an i7 9700k and an RTX 2080 ti

The last time I checked prices, it was ~£2250 for the Ultima deal, but £2500 for the same spec manually configured, so there is a big discount on it.

You should get the Ultima as it has a powerful Intel CPU (just as good as the 9900k for gaming) and lets you have the 2080 ti.

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs, WIFI - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Cable Management
3 x PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 11 working days
Price: €2.662,00 including VAT and Delivery

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It even has the same case as the one you picked.

There is no need/ advantage to more than 16gb RAM for gaming

 

[Oussebon]

Also note that the AORUS Master and the Asus Z390-E both have built in wifi and BT 5

So you don't need a wifi card with either of those 2 motherboards

 

[matteoricci706]

It's a good build, thanks, I'll see if I can modify something of my order...

 

[Oussebon]

You may end up needing to cancel the order and resubmit, but you can always call them up to discuss. They have an Italian sales number, as well as the normal UK one, if that's cheaper or more convenient (though the Italian line is only open mon-Fri, while the UK one is open to 5pm today).

Let us know how things go

 

[matteoricci706]

I have chosen to spend a bit of more money and change configuration as above:

Case	CASE CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE
Processor (CPU)	Processore i9 Intel® Core™ i9-9900K 8 core (3,6 GHz) 16 MB cache Change to: Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6 GB/s WIFI – RGB-ready
Memory (RAM)	DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE 2666 MHz 32 GB (2 da 16 GB) Change to: 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	NVIDIA GEFORCE 8 GB RTX 2080 – HDMI, 3x DP GeForce – RTX VR-ready! Change to: 11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive	HDD SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3,5" 2 TB, 6 GB/s, 7200 GIRI/MIN., 256 MB CACHE Partitions: 2000GB
1st M.2 SSD Drive	SSD PCIe INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe 256 GB (fino a 3210 MB/sR | 1315 MB/sW) Change to: 512GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW) Partitions: 256GB
Intel Optane Memory	MEMORIA INTEL® OPTANE 32 GB - UTILIZZARE CON UNITÀ DISCO RIGIDO MECCANICHE (HDD)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	NON RICHIESTO
Power Supply	CORSAIR 1000 W RMx SERIES™ MODULARE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA SILENZIOSO Change to: CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 cavo di alimentazione europeo 1 metro (tipo kettle)
Processor Cooling	Dissipatore CPU Corsair H115i PRO con ventole ultra silenziose PCS
Thermal Paste	PARTE TERMICA COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER
LED Lighting	Striscia LED RGB 50 cm
Sound Card	AUDIO ALTA DEFINIZIONE INTEGRATO A 6 CANALI (5.1) (DI SERIE)
Wireless/Wired Networking	ASUS PCE-AC88 AC3100 2100 Mbps/5 GHz, 1000 Mbps/2,4 GHz
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 USB 3.0 e 2 PORTE USB 2.0 SUL PANNELLO POSTERIORE + MIN. 2 PORTE ANTERIORI
Operating System	Windows 10 Home 64-bit originale – incl. licenza singola [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language	Italia/Italia – Lingua italiana
Windows Recovery Media	Immagine di ripristino multilingue di Windows 10 - Fornita su DVD
Office Software	Prova GRATUITA 30 giorni di Microsoft® Office® 365 (richiesto sistema operativo)
Anti-Virus	BullGuard™ Internet Security – Licenza gratuita per 90 giorni incl. Gamer Mode
Browser	Microsoft® Edge (solo con Windows 10)
Cable Management	3 PCS 1,5 m Zip Cable Tidy – Gestione professionale dei cavi
Warranty	Garanzia Silver di 3 anni (1 anno Ritiro e reso, 2 anni Ricambi, 3 anni Manodopera)
Insurance	Assicurazione Simplesurance per la protezione dell’acquisto, include danni accidentali e furto
Delivery	3 - 4 GIORNI PER LA SPEDIZIONE IN ITALIA
Build Time	Costruzione standard – da 9 a 12 giorni lavorativi
Welcome Book	Libro di benvenuto PCSpecialist - Italia