My new PC ordered yesterday from pc specialist

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
UPDATE: PC ARRIVED, POST OF PC HERE: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?56462-My-PC-order-has-finally-arrived-)-quick-question-about-O-C

Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-7600K (3.8GHz) 6MB Cache (O.C to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z270E GAMING: LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GB, WiFi - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB) (upgrade later to 16gb
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU) (Will add a GTX 1060 G1 6GB OR 8GB GTX 1070 later)
1st Hard Disk
250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW) (adding a 1tb wd 3.5'' and possibly another Samsung ssd later)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
DVD Recovery Media
NO DVD RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Price £871.00 including VAT and delivery

Also one question with my order, it says processing but what does it mean by production time; first working day?
thanks everyone, if you could rate my setup that would be great along with feedback.
 
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steaky360

Moderator
Moderator
Its usually the next working day after you order that your order clock starts so if you ordered on Tuesday then Wednesday would have been the first day.

If you've ordered by finance it sometimes takes a little longer to get going as the finance company has to sort out things before anything starts really.
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
Oh ok thank you, any feedback about my build or should i be all good especially in terms of power supply when i add the new parts as mentioned? Concidering im OCing the CPU, RAM and possibly the card
 
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keynes

Multiverse Poster
Feedback depends on intended use. Do you have a budget? An M2 SSD drive will be faster than the one you selected and depending on your budget you could consider an i7
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
The most i will be doing on it is a flight sim called Prepar3D with 4K in game textures and hardware intense addons that take up so much computer resources it's ridiculous;) ;) go on youtube and search " [Prepar3D] AWESOME REALISM CORE I7 @ 4.6GHz GTX 960 [HD]" thats what my pc is mostly for and as you can see i dont really need the i7 as im overclocking my i5 7600k to 4.8GHz and if lucky 5.0GHz and the graphics card is already better than the one in the video.
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
I already ordered it but i was just wondering if a 650W power supply is good for all the parts mentioned including the ones im adding latter as well as OCing my parts?
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
i dont really need the i7 as im overclocking my i5 7600k to 4.8GHz
The i7 has twice as many threads as the i5, it's not just about the clock speed. Are you sure that Prepar3D doesn't benefit from the extra threads?

I already ordered it but i was just wondering if a 650W power supply is good for all the parts mentioned including the ones im adding latter as well as OCing my parts?
Depends what you're adding, what GPU you're using. It's very likely more than enough though.
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
The i7 has twice as many threads as the i5, it's not just about the clock speed. Are you sure that Prepar3D doesn't benefit from the extra threads?

Depends what you're adding, what GPU you're using. It's very likely more than enough though.

in the video I saw, it was an i7 3770k and mine is an i5 7600k and here: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/1317vs3885

shows that my processor is way better for majority of the processor specs.
 

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Oussebon

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As above. Furthermore the 3770k is from 2012. You should be looking at the 7600k vs a 7700k (or a 6600k vs a 6700k) for a better comparison. And in a proper review website, not a website that claims to be a benchmark but frankly is more like a random number generator. So avoid CPUboss too.

In terms of general gaming:

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You can see i5s more likely to drop below 60fps in WD2 (2016), while in Metro LL (2013) i5s can have more stuttery gameplay than i7s.

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While WH:TW (2016) loves CPU single threaded performance, it also loves more threads.

Fallout 4 (2015) really loves more threads:
fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-1080-u.png

Indeed Eurogamer found the difference to be even more pronounced, saying:
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Certainly there are very many titles where there will be little performance difference. But there are, as above, a decent number of titles already available where the extra threads are a huge benefit and this may only be more the case going forward.

TL;DR - look for actual comparisons of the i5 vs the i7 in the game/simulator you're going to run. Don't just go off bizarre synthetic benchmarks that should, frankly, be ignored by everyone.
 
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JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
well for the sim I'm playing I have seen people run it with the processor I have fine for first. also I doubt their is a benchmark of the sim I'm playing of a 3770k vs a 7600k. also when I was watching game benchmarks on youtube for the 3770k vs the 7600k, the games on both processors had more or less the same fps and they tested out quite a few games that were released not long ago such as rise of the tomb raider.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
If you're set on the 7600k then it's your money, knock yourself out.

The 3770k was a CPU released in 2012. The 7600k was released in 2017. Comparing the two when deciding whether to buy a new system in 2017 is meaningless and bizarre - as previously explained.

The only case it makes any sense to compare one to the other is if you own a 3770k and want to know if a 7600k is worth the upgrade. To which the answer will almost always be no.

I've provided fairly detailed information on the differences between an i7 7700k (2017) and an i7 7600k (2017). Certainly they don't apply in all games, and certainly even if they did to the games/sims you're interested in you're not obligated to buy an i7 7700k :)

But I must say, comparing an i7 3770k to an i5 7600k is really not a helpful thing to do when deciding what to buy.
 
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JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
If you're set on the 7600k then it's your money, knock yourself out.

The 3770k was a CPU released in 2012. The 7600k was released in 2017. Comparing the two when deciding whether to buy a new system in 2017 is meaningless and bizarre - as previously explained.

The only case it makes any sense to compare one to the other is if you own a 3770k and want to know if a 7600k is worth the upgrade. To which the answer will almost always be no.

I've provided fairly detailed information on the differences between an i7 7700k (2017) and an i7 7600k (2017). Certainly they don't apply in all games, and certainly even if they did to the games/sims you're interested in you're not obligated to buy an i7 7700k :)

But I must say, comparing an i7 3770k to an i5 7600k is really not a helpful thing to do when deciding what to buy.

well I only did that because I said I had a 7600k and in the video the guy was using a 3770k and some guy had to come along and be like, do you need an i7 for more threads? but from what you said its better any way and that scrub was essentially trying to waste my money :/ thanks anyway
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
The i7 has twice as many threads as the i5, it's not just about the clock speed. Are you sure that Prepar3D doesn't benefit from the extra threads?

Depends what you're adding, what GPU you're using. It's very likely more than enough though.

oh yeah and I doubt the i5 7600k matters because even though the video says i7 its a 3770k
 

JSanderson99

Bronze Level Poster
Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-7600K (3.8GHz) 6MB Cache (O.C to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z270E GAMING: LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GB, WiFi - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB) (upgrade later to 16gb
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU) (Will add a GTX 1060 G1 6GB OR 8GB GTX 1070 later)
1st Hard Disk
250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW) (adding a 1tb wd 3.5'' and possibly another Samsung ssd later)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
DVD Recovery Media
NO DVD RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Price £871.00 including VAT and delivery

Also one question with my order, it says processing but what does it mean by production time; first working day?
thanks everyone, if you could rate my setup that would be great along with feedback.

UPDATE: Order sent out for delivery, cant wait. installing my Gigabyte gtx 1060 6gb g1 rev 2 card myself :)
 
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