New PC advice for DVD ripping

Thaddeus

Member
Hi,

I'm looking to rip my large DVD collection as high quality H265 files in as quick a time as possible (preferably around 10 - 15 minutes per DVD).

I started off with a budget of around £1000 but have got a bit carried away and ended up closer to £1500, so I'm looking for advice about what I can reduce and still have a PC which will rip H265 files quickly (or even increase one bit and decrease another - e.g. would doubling the RAM to 32GB and reducing to a lower spec graphics card give me overall quicker ripping).

As a slightly separate question, when I clicked proceed with the spec below, it told me that I only needed a 450W power supply but I chose the 650W below as it mentions being quiet. Given that I'm ripping DVDs, the DVD drive itself will make plenty of noise, so I was really spending more to get a cooler, more efficient supply but would be interested to know if I'd be better just going to a standard 450W supply.

Also, just to mention, I don't have any other high processor demanding activities, so it is purely about getting a fast machine for ripping DVDs, rather than considering other factors.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Case
InWIN G7 BRUSHED EFFECT GREY CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight Core CPU (3.4GHz-3.8GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B350-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
FREE Rocket League with select GTX 10 Series GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
2TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD2003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1300 867Mbps/5GHz, 400Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I'd suggest the PM961 since it's faster and basically the same price as the Evo (it's under the M.2 SSD section).

The 650 TXm PSU is more efficient than the VS series, modular, and afaik better quality.

The WD Black HDDs are wildly more expensive than the regular HDDs. Not sure it's worth it for your uses.

If you wanted to mitigate noise, you could get a Fractal Define R5 which hides the DVD drive behind a foam-lined front panel that dampens the sound. It has other sound-proofing as well and is a very good case.

I'm not very familiar with DVD ripping and transcoding (I just ripped them all to MKVs because placebo + lazy) but I believe it's less bothered about RAM and more bothered about the CPU/GPU. So I'd stick with 16gb and the 1060.
 

Thaddeus

Member
Thanks Oussebon. I've changed direction a bit since my post on Wednesday and decided to go for a laptop instead but I've followed your advice about the SSD so thanks in particular for that. I was considering a NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 - 8.0GB card as I'm now thinking about ripping some of my blu rays too but from what I've read elsewhere, I think I'll get enough from a 1060, plus I've read here that the Defiance III can get quite hot as it is so I'm trying to keep my power needs (and my budget) under control.

The only other bit that I'm not 100% about is whether I need a 230W AC adaptor vs the 200W. In my head, the only things I'll be plugging in will be external hard drives (which will have their own power supply) and my phone, so although there's no cost difference I'd be curious to know if there's any difference in terms of weight, heat, power use etc. as my instinct is just to go for the bigger number, but I might be upping it unnecessarily and leading to slight unintended consequences. Again, I've read here that the AC adaptor is pretty heavy so even if there's only a slight weight difference between the two, I'd rather avoid it if it's not going to help me.

Thanks again.

My new spec is here:

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Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 - 6.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1, G-SYNC
FREE Rocket League with select GTX 10 Series GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD - UP TO 5X FASTER THAN HDD!
M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2800MB/R, 1100MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
2 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ WIRELESS-AC 1535 M.2 GAMING 802.11AC + BLUETOOTH 4.1
USB Options
3 x USB 3.1 Type A, 2 x USB 3.1 Type C AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Quantity
1

Price £1,471.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/defianceIII-15/W5jrJm!D8f/
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
If 17.3" is viable I think you can get a 6700HQ and GTX 1070 for the same kind of price in that chassis.

Be aware that the i7 has only half the cores and threads of the R7. I'm not sure whether your encoding would be done just on the GPU though.
The only other bit that I'm not 100% about is whether I need a 230W AC adaptor vs the 200W.
afaik the 200W one is for the 1060 and the 230W one is for the 1070, and PCS just give you the one you're meant to have. The dropdown menu is do you can buy 2 chargers if you want.
 

Thaddeus

Member
Thanks. Just to clarify, I wasn't expecting like for like performance from the desktop and laptop processors. I'm upgrading from an i7-4770 3.4ghz desktop which I've been told would have been sufficient for quick blu ray ripping if I upgrade to a 1060 Geforce graphics card. Unfortunately the card I bought doesn't fit into my desktop, and going through the whole process of it made me realise I would much prefer the space in my house that a laptop would give me, compared to a computer and its desk, as well as the option to carry it around, or even just have it downstairs, instead of being confined to a single room.

So I'm sacrificing some power for portability/space, in the hope that I'll still have enough to do what I want with it.

I've configured the 17.3 inch and it's come to £1599 for the same spec but with the 6700HQ and GTX 1070. I'm guessing your thinking is that the processor is slightly less powerful but the graphics card is a significant boost so I'd get more from it overall.

I've been looking at large laptop bags, so I haven't completely decided against it as an idea but I think the 2.5kg vs 3.2kg difference, plus the larger frame to limit its portability will keep me going for the 15.6 inch model (even 2.5kg feels quite heavy in my mind, my current 2009 laptop is about 2kg and is noticeably heavier when I carry in my hand, and have it on my laptop than the sort of smaller day to day laptops that I'm used to having when I use other people's).

Do you (or anyone else passing) have any thoughts about the GTX 1070 temperature/power consumption compared to the 1060? I can see various tests online and there is quite a significant performance difference but as I said earlier, I'm worried that there's more chance of it making the laptop run hotter than I'd like and making the fans come on a lot which I'd definitely like to avoid.

From tests I've read online overall it uses about 20 watts less than the 1070 under load and is about 3 degrees cooler. Neither of these sound like huge differences but I worry it might just tip it beyond cool and quiet running. If I'm wrong and and the only real question is about whether I want to spend an extra £200 for a significant but possibly not important boost in the time it takes to rip blu rays, then I think I might be tempted as I very much doubt I'll upgrade it at any point so whatever I pick is likely to be for quite a few years. On the potential overheating issue, I've read that Arctic Paste can wear away fairly quickly and so other pastes are recommended. Does anyone know the reason why PCSpecialist only offers those two options?

One final, probably stupid question, there's a 1 x 1m power cable and a 2 x 1m power cable option. I first read it as meaning the second option gives you a 2m cable but I'm fairly certain that it just means you get two 1m cables. If this is the case, am I fine just to swap it for a longer cable (I can see what looks like the right 3m cable on Amazon for £5.99 but wondered how I'd be certain that it's compatible) as my sofa is quite a distance from the nearest plug so a 3m cable would be much more comfortable.

Thanks again for your advice which has definitely help focus my mind.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I've configured the 17.3 inch and it's come to £1599 for the same spec but with the 6700HQ and GTX 1070. I'm guessing your thinking is that the processor is slightly less powerful but the graphics card is a significant boost so I'd get more from it overall.
pretty much.

Do you (or anyone else passing) have any thoughts about the GTX 1070 temperature/power consumption compared to the 1060? I can see various tests online and there is quite a significant performance difference but as I said earlier, I'm worried that there's more chance of it making the laptop run hotter than I'd like and making the fans come on a lot which I'd definitely like to avoid.
If you load up the GPU, the fans are going to come on - that's true of any GPU but especially when you put basically a desktop GPU into a laptop chassis. The 3 degrees aren't really going to make the difference.

The 6700HQ apparently runs cooler than the 7700HQ so may, especially if any of the heatpipes are shared, be a positive influence on temps.

The clevo control centre does let you manage fan profiles to a degree I believe.

spend an extra £200
It's about £100 more isn't it?

s I very much doubt I'll upgrade it at any point so whatever I pick is likely to be for quite a few years.
You can't realistically upgrade the CPU or GPU of the laptop so you'd be stuck with the core spec you pick.

One final, probably stupid question, there's a 1 x 1m power cable and a 2 x 1m power cable option. I first read it as meaning the second option gives you a 2m cable but I'm fairly certain that it just means you get two 1m cables. If this is the case, am I fine just to swap it for a longer cable (I can see what looks like the right 3m cable on Amazon for £5.99 but wondered how I'd be certain that it's compatible) as my sofa is quite a distance from the nearest plug so a 3m cable would be much more comfortable.
I'd assume any kettle lead would do the job - though obviously that's just the lead from the wall to the power brick.

I've read that Arctic Paste can wear away fairly quickly and so other pastes are recommended. Does anyone know the reason why PCSpecialist only offers those two options?
The advice on the forums tends to be the opposite - that the standard cheaper paste is more likely to dry or go flaky while the arctic paste is fine. Mine lasted years, and when I repasted (because I removed the cooler while doing something else, not because I had a thermal problem) the stuff I removed still looked in about the same condition as the new stuff I put on, so would probably have been good for a while longer.

as my sofa
If you intend to have the laptop on your lap / on the arm of the sofa (or frankly even if you're just putting it on a table) you could get a laptop cooling pad with fans. These can help improve airflow and temps.
 

Thaddeus

Member
pretty much.

If you load up the GPU, the fans are going to come on - that's true of any GPU but especially when you put basically a desktop GPU into a laptop chassis. The 3 degrees aren't really going to make the difference.

The 6700HQ apparently runs cooler than the 7700HQ so may, especially if any of the heatpipes are shared, be a positive influence on temps.

The clevo control centre does let you manage fan profiles to a degree I believe.

It's about £100 more isn't it?

You can't realistically upgrade the CPU or GPU of the laptop so you'd be stuck with the core spec you pick.

I'd assume any kettle lead would do the job - though obviously that's just the lead from the wall to the power brick.

The advice on the forums tends to be the opposite - that the standard cheaper paste is more likely to dry or go flaky while the arctic paste is fine. Mine lasted years, and when I repasted (because I removed the cooler while doing something else, not because I had a thermal problem) the stuff I removed still looked in about the same condition as the new stuff I put on, so would probably have been good for a while longer.

If you intend to have the laptop on your lap / on the arm of the sofa (or frankly even if you're just putting it on a tabl

I'm not clever enough to do focussed quotes on my phone but I was meaning about a £200 difference for upgrading the 15.6 from 1060 to 1070 (The exact numbers are £1463 and £1661) as I'm fairly sure I'm going for the 15.6.

I have thought of another idea typing this, checking if PC specialist would put a 6700Hq in a 15.6 and then spending the money saved on a 1070, as well as crossing my fingers that your instinct about the cooler running 6770 does have an impact on the overall temperature. I know it's not on the drop down for the 15.6 but my possibly naive mind thinks that the same model name means the same architecture so it should work.

The cooling pad feels like a good idea so I'll look into that too.

I think I'm almost there in my mind. I don't think I'll order it before Monday morning as I doubt anyone would do anything with it today so I'll pause until then in case there are any final thoughts that bubble up.

I can see you've reached master rank so I doubt giving you more rep will make any difference but I really do appreciate all your help and can see how you've helped plenty of others here so it's nice to know there are people like you in the world.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
as I'm fairly sure I'm going for the 15.6.
Ah right, I see. I'd probably stick with the 1060 then - I only suggested the 1070 as it comes with the cheaper 6700HQ in the 17.3" chassis.

I have thought of another idea typing this, checking if PC specialist would put a 6700Hq in a 15.6 and then spending the money saved on a 1070, as well as crossing my fingers that your instinct about the cooler running 6770 does have an impact on the overall temperature. I know it's not on the drop down for the 15.6 but my possibly naive mind thinks that the same model name means the same architecture so it should work.
I believe the CPUs and GPUs are soldered to the motherboards so I don't think that's something they'd offer. By all means ask but I wouldn't think it's possible.
 

Thaddeus

Member
Ah right, I see. I'd probably stick with the 1060 then - I only suggested the 1070 as it comes with the cheaper 6700HQ in the 17.3" chassis.

I believe the CPUs and GPUs are soldered to the motherboards so I don't think that's something they'd offer. By all means ask but I wouldn't think it's possible.

Thanks. I've emailed the question so I'll see what they say. You don't think the graphics card power difference is worth £200 if I can't swap the CPU then?
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
In terms of raw potential performance it arguably would be worth it, in that a GTX 1070 can be 40% more powerful than a 1060, and the % increase in the price of the system is much smaller than 40%.

However, I don't know whether what you're doing will fully leverage that, whether if it did you'd see a linear performance scaling, whether even if there were it would be worth it (e.g. do you need a DVD to rip in 6 minutes instead of 8) for the extra cost. And a 1060 should also run cooler than a 1070.

Also you're presumably going to run out of DVDs to rip, or at least get to a point where you're ripping them less frequently, and so will end up with a powerful GPU sitting idle.
 

Thaddeus

Member
In terms of raw potential performance it arguably would be worth it, in that a GTX 1070 can be 40% more powerful than a 1060, and the % increase in the price of the system is much smaller than 40%.

However, I don't know whether what you're doing will fully leverage that, whether if it did you'd see a linear performance scaling, whether even if there were it would be worth it (e.g. do you need a DVD to rip in 6 minutes instead of 8) for the extra cost. And a 1060 should also run cooler than a 1070.

Also you're presumably going to run out of DVDs to rip, or at least get to a point where you're ripping them less frequently, and so will end up with a powerful GPU sitting idle.

Thanks. Your argument does make a lot of sense although I'm still tempted by the 1070 as I'm basically starting from scratch with all my DVDs and blu rays as I originally ripped them at too low a quality which has only come to light when I upgraded my TV at the end of last year. If I could guarantee that £200 would save me 2 minutes per disc then I'd definitely go for it but that will depend on how much the software optimises the graphics card power (and how significant the graphics card is on the times).

I've had confirmation that they can't swap the processor for exactly the reason you thought so my decision is much clearer.
 
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