New pc!

[Sleinous]

Ok the black yellow red wires leading to that connector, are, molex connectors. Theyre no biggy, your new comp will have spare ones you can hook up to.

No, the big issue here is that both the CD and DVD drive are IDE, HOWEVER I can see your cable has TWO connectors on it, so, you are saved.

Here is a pic of the cable im talking about:

As for that Medion PC, let us take a quick loko at the things that stand out to me as being vague as soon as I clicked on the link:

* CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X6 1035T 6-Core processor
*

Operating System: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-bit (OEM Version)
* Clock Frequency: 2.6 Ghz
* Memory Type: DDR3 1333 MHz
* Memory size: 4 GB
* Hard disk capacity: 1 TB
*

ATI Radeon™ HD5670 PCI-Express Graphics card - with 1024 MB of DDR5 graphics memory
1 x DVI-I, 1 x HDMI (supports HDCP) and 1x D-Sub VGA
*

Dual Layer DVD-ReWriter - max.: 16x DVD+R9 (DL), 12x DVD-R9 (DL) 22x DVD+R, 22x DVD-R, 8x DVD+RW 6x DVD-RW, 48x CD-R, 32x CD-RW 5x DVD-RAM
*

8 Channel Audio
*

Integrated Memory Card Reader - reads from and writes to all standard memory cards
* IEEE1394 FireWire

So...Firstly, absolutely NO mention of the PSU used, probably a 450W ro 500W minimum, just enough to cover the components in the PC, probably absolutely no room for upgrades, e.g. taking out the 5670 and putting in a 5770/5850 would probably nto work as PSU wouldnt cope with extra power req.

Secondly... the RAM is 1333mhz, all well and good but, absolutely no indication of manufacturer (I looked inside my Sony Vaio laptop at the RAM, the 2 sticks were from DIFFERENT manufacturers, both id never ever heard of). So..RAM likely to be OEM stuff.

Thirdly, ok so it mentions 8 channel audio, so we know the motherboard must have 8 channel audio built-in but...where is the motherboard make / model? Nowhere, so, we dont no if it has crossfire/sli capabilities, extra features like number of usb internal headers, number of SATA connectors, whether theyre SATA I / II or III.

Warranty: V vague, 24months, 24 months of what?

 

[PringlesInside]

thanks , i will be able to connect dvd and cd drive - without having to buy a new one
thanks for that!

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ok yeah your all correct about that medion pc.
but u are saying about the PSU.... for the pc system i will buy from pcspecialist (here) i put 450 PSU..oh dear :S :S

 

[PringlesInside]

also, theese are the 2 mointors i have...

i wudnt be able to use dual monitor ?

 

[Sleinous]

thanks , i will be able to connect dvd and cd drive - without having to buy a new one
thanks for that!

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ok yeah your all correct about that medion pc.
but u are saying about the PSU.... for the pc system i will buy from pcspecialist (here) i put 450 PSU..oh dear :S :S

I'd consider a 600W incase you want to upgrade that GPU.

One thing ive just realised is youre spending WAY too much on the CPU, a six core AMD is way way way too much

And i'd seriously seriously recommend getting a 64mb cached drive, 8mb is ok but, you wont get the responsiveness youd get from a 64mb cached drive, especially when copying lots of small files/ booting up/ loading startup programs etc.

If you're using the GT 430 Nvidia GPU, you will need to use the DVI to VGA converter that comes in the box:

(You only get one, the above pic just shows you both ends).

THIS is the Nvidia GT 430: Notice it has a VGA output (one of your VGA monitor cables can go in here) AND a DVI output, so, in teh DVI output, you plug in that DVI to VGA converter I posted a pic of up above, and then, plug your second VGA cable in from your 2nd monitor. Simples

Another pic of the ports:

 

[PringlesInside]

I'd consider a 600W incase you want to upgrade that GPU.

One thing ive just realised is youre spending WAY too much on the CPU, a six core AMD is way way way too much

And i'd seriously seriously recommend getting a 64mb cached drive, 8mb is ok but, you wont get the responsiveness youd get from a 64mb cached drive, especially when copying lots of small files/ booting up/ loading startup programs etc.

If you're using the GT 430 Nvidia GPU, you will need to use the DVI to VGA converter that comes in the box:

(You only get one, the above pic just shows you both ends).

But i want an "X6" ........
64mb cached drive <<< what are you talking about?



Also, i think i am going to go for:
Graphics Card
1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5750 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11

Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Tops total price to £595.00 shudnt be too bad

btw: DVI to VGA converter , i can buy this at a later stage from local shop i guess .. i see around £5-10 .

 

[Sleinous]

I'm talking about a 640GB WD6400ARS 64mb cached drive, instead of a 500GB 8mb cached drive.

DVI to VGA adapter comes free with your order.

Not sure if it does when you order an ATI card though, although i'd seriously consider going for the GT 430 instead of that 5750.

A six core CPU is a bit pointless right now, hardly any programs use it, "Folding@Home" would, thats all I can really thinnk of right now. A quad core is more than enough atm but if you really want a six core, its your pc. I just think its completely unbalanced at this budget

Whichever card you go for, the principle is the same, the 5750 still has one VGA and one DVI, so you still need that DVI to VGA adapter, which I know is provided with Nvidia cards, no idea if its provided with ATI cards.

I also edited my previous post quite a bit, so recheck it if you havent already

 

[PringlesInside]

i thinnk your looking at my pasted data on first topic post.

Ive changed it many times as it goes on..


ummm so this is what i will buy today then..:

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Case


PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)


AMD PHENOM II X6 1055T (2.80GHz/9MB CACHE/AM3/)

Motherboard


ASUS® M4A87TD/USB3: DUAL DDR3,SATA 6.0GB/s, USB 3.0

Memory (RAM)


4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)

Graphics Card


1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5750 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11

2nd Graphics Card


NONE

Memory - 1st Hard Disk


640GB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD6400AARS, SATA 3 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

2nd Hard Disk


NONE

3rd Hard Disk


NONE

4th Hard Disk


NONE

RAID


NONE

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive


NONE

2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive


NONE

Memory Card Reader


NONE

Power Supply & Case Cooling


600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling


STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER

Sound Card


ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities


ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

USB Options


6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Modem


NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Floppy Disk Drive


NONE

Firewire & Video Editing


NONE

TV Card


NONE

Operating System


NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Office Software


NO OFFICE SOFTWARE

Anti-Virus


NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Monitor


NONE

2nd Monitor


NONE

3rd Monitor


NONE

4th Monitor


NONE

DVI Cable


NONE

GeForce 3D Vision


NONE

Keyboard & Mouse


NONE

Mouse


NONE

Speakers


NONE

Webcam


NONE

Headsets (VOIP)


NONE

Surge Protection


NONE

Printer


NONE

External Hard Drive


NONE

Home Installation


NONE

Warranty


3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)

Data Recovery


NONE

Delivery


STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time


Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days

Quantity


1

New Total Price


£595.00
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64mb cached drive is there as in other previous posts...

"although i'd seriously consider going for the GT 430 instead of that 5750." <<< why????

 

[Sleinous]

i thinnk your looking at my pasted data on first topic post.

Ive changed it many times as it goes on..


ummm so this is what i will buy today then..:

--#
Case


PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)


AMD PHENOM II X6 1055T (2.80GHz/9MB CACHE/AM3/)

Motherboard


ASUS® M4A87TD/USB3: DUAL DDR3,SATA 6.0GB/s, USB 3.0

Memory (RAM)


4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)

Graphics Card


1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5750 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11

2nd Graphics Card


NONE

Memory - 1st Hard Disk


640GB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD6400AARS, SATA 3 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

2nd Hard Disk


NONE

3rd Hard Disk


NONE

4th Hard Disk


NONE

RAID


NONE

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive


NONE

2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive


NONE

Memory Card Reader


NONE

Power Supply & Case Cooling


600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling


STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER

Sound Card


ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities


ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

USB Options


6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Modem


NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Floppy Disk Drive


NONE

Firewire & Video Editing


NONE

TV Card


NONE

Operating System


NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Office Software


NO OFFICE SOFTWARE

Anti-Virus


NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Monitor


NONE

2nd Monitor


NONE

3rd Monitor


NONE

4th Monitor


NONE

DVI Cable


NONE

GeForce 3D Vision


NONE

Keyboard & Mouse


NONE

Mouse


NONE

Speakers


NONE

Webcam


NONE

Headsets (VOIP)


NONE

Surge Protection


NONE

Printer


NONE

External Hard Drive


NONE

Home Installation


NONE

Warranty


3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)

Data Recovery


NONE

Delivery


STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time


Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days

Quantity


1

New Total Price


£595.00
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64mb cached drive is there as in other previous posts...

"although i'd seriously consider going for the GT 430 instead of that 5750." <<< why????

Ah excellent, the HDD is great, motherboard too. This is taking shape now Nice choice on the warranty too.

Mainly because, Nvidia has CUDA cores, very useful for video conversion, video editing, photo editing using Photoshop etc, however, the ATI card there is way better for gaming etc etc, it has GDDR5 video memory instead of slower GDDR3, memory clock is 1.15ghz instead of 900mhz, and the card is crossfire ready, unlike the GT 430 that cannot be SLI'd although I understand you chose a non-xfire motherboard as you wernt interested in this feature.

So, it depends on what youre doing with your comp, if its designing, maybe the GT 430, gaming or anything else, ye just stick with that 5750, its a nice card

 

[Phoenix]

The 5750 is much better than the GT430, only reason to downgrade to it would be to save money but it would hurt your FPS in games.

 

[PringlesInside]

((i have a PS3 and alot of games + wirless headest bluetooth, if anyone wants to buy ))

Finally....... I greatly appreciate all help! .... +rep all the way . do you guys actually work for pcspecialist?

i believe finally i will buy the specs on post #47 ( http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?1591-New-pc!&p=17792&viewfull=1#post17792 )


p.s would i have a valueselect corsair 256mb and a samsung 256 mb ddr pc2700 CL2.5 < < RAM . would i be able to use theese aswell in the new pc system , in addition to the 2x2gb ram

 

[Sleinous]

Possibly, but dont do it as, the clock speed on this older RAM would be much lower (lets say 553mhz as an example) and then, ALL your RAM would downclock to 553mhz so not at all advised, apart from the fact it may not be 240pin RAM, SD RAM, or your motherboard only supports ddr2 ddr3 minimum and not ddr, lots of limitations could occur. Basically, dont

Nope we dont work for PCS.

 

[PringlesInside]

Possibly, but dont do it as, the clock speed on this older RAM would be much lower (lets say 553mhz as an example) and then, ALL your RAM would downclock to 553mhz so not at all advised, apart from the fact it may not be 240pin RAM, SD RAM, or your motherboard only supports ddr2 ddr3 minimum and not ddr, lots of limitations could occur. Basically, dont

Nope we dont work for PCS.

Ok . i will post i order.

but when will i get my pc? would like it to come on Friday but seems 9-12 working days.. oh no

 

[Sleinous]

Nah wont be Friday unless you pay for fast track. Likely 2 weeks from now.

 

[Shibin]

Good choice at the end dude,but i still think if you more of a gamer you could make the cpu quad core and then use the saved money for a 5770. Also no need for a 600w unless you upgrade in the future which would mean you would need to change motherboard too. So downgrade cpu and psu and go for a 5770 or better.

Good luck

 

[Sleinous]

Doesnt need to change mobo if he sells the 5750 and gets say, a 5850. So PSU at 600W is still applicable. yes, I tried to talk Pringle out of the 6 core but, no luck

 

[PringlesInside]

na ,
Ive justed payed 10mins ago

Case
PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
AMD PHENOM II X6 1055T (2.80GHz/9MB CACHE/AM3/)

Motherboard
ASUS® M4A87TD/USB3: DUAL DDR3,SATA 6.0GB/s, USB 3.0

Memory (RAM)
4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)

Graphics Card
1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5750 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11

2nd Graphics Card
NONE

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
640GB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD6400AARS, SATA 3 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

2nd Hard Disk
NONE

RAID
NONE

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NONE

2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NONE

Memory Card Reader
NONE

Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER

Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Modem
NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Floppy Disk Drive
NONE

Firewire & Video Editing
NONE

TV Card
NONE

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Monitor
NONE

2nd Monitor
NONE

DVI Cable
NONE

GeForce 3D Vision
NONE

Keyboard & Mouse
NONE

Mouse
NONE

Speakers
NONE

Webcam
NONE

Headsets (VOIP)
NONE

Surge Protection
NONE

Printer
NONE

External Hard Drive
NONE

Home Installation
NONE

Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)

Data Recovery
NONE

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days

Price (excluding VAT)


£506.38

Price


£595.00

Order Quantity


1

Bulk discount


£0.00

Total order price (Ex VAT)


£506.38

Total order Price


£595.00

 

[Sleinous]

Looking very nice indeed! Dont forget to post pics when it arrives!

 

[PringlesInside]

hey

look here: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk...5750/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5750-overview.aspx#2
ATI Radeon™ HD 5750 <<<<< thats the graphics card i ordered from this site with my pc........... right?

image shows:

i see 2 vga ports !! correct ?

so therefore i would be able to connect both my monitors easily and use as extended desktop (by this i mean like its a larger screen ... umm not like same display on both monitor .. you know what i mean )

so i dont need to by a spliter or w,.e

p.s: my order still says processing .. thought it would be building by now...

 

[Sleinous]

Nope, this one has two DVI ports, HDMI and a DisplayPort, those are DVI and not VGA.

Also, thisis likely not the GPU you will get, the picture I posted is likely what you will get (powercolor) and has one DVI and one VGA output, so one monitor can connect easily, the other will require the little adapter.

 

[PCS]

That's an ATI generic card. ATi don't make graphics cards, just the chipsets. They use third parties such as PowerColor, which is the card that you're likely to receive inside your new computer. Here's a picture: