PC SPEC FOR MFS2020

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Crichton_123

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Hey everyone,

I’m wanting to purchase a new PC for Flight simulator 2020. I was wondering what people think of the below spec. My budget is between £1500/£2000.

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Case
PCS SPECTRUM RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700K (3.8GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z490-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

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1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W CV SERIES™ CV-650 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Thank you in advance for your help!

kind regards,

Jordan
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Nursemorph said:
To know if this is a good spec for your needs or not, we need the following information:

- Monitor to be used with this system? Resolution and refresh rate or make and model if unsure. Gaming systems are always specced according to the monitor

- Any other uses to take into account? Editing? Streaming? things like that

Let us know the above and we can advise appropriately but it may be likely that an AMD system would be more appropriate (and cost effiecient too)
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-In terms of monitor I’m a novice so if there is a monitor you could recommend That would be great.

-The PC will be use predominantly for gaming i.e simulation and occasional shooting games etc.


Thanks for your help.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Nursemorph said:
One more question I didn't think to ask (my bad):

Does the above listed budget include both monitor and system or is there extra budget for a monitor? We can do you a good system either way but it's good to know
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Above budget is excluding monitor.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
Scott

Scott

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Bumping up the CPU would allow for a one stop shop regardless of use :)

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL II GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT Eight Core CPU (4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG272CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 165Hz
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,279.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NnfxFQN!2X/
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Scott said:
Bumping up the CPU would allow for a one stop shop regardless of use :)

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL II GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT Eight Core CPU (4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG272CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 165Hz
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,279.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NnfxFQN!2X/
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Brilliant, thanks for the this. I may bite the bullet and go for the RTX2080. Though there are rumours that the 3000 series may be out soon?

Also, unfortunately that monitor is unavailable. Is there another monitor you’d recommend?

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Nursemorph said:
The monitor is not showing as unavailable here? Just doen a brand new spec and it's not showing as unavailable? Are you sure you were looking at the right MSI? If you just click on the URL at the bottom of the spec Scott listed, it will take you straight to the spec and you can order from there.

I wouldn't go for the 2080S personally, especially if you have an eye on the new GPUs (possibly out in September/October...will likely be an official announcement towards the beggining of September)
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Must’ve been a glitch. I’m showing it in stock now!

Ok I will hang on and stick with the 2070. Thank you all for your help! Now the waiting begins.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
SpyderTracks

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Just to confirm FS2020 is going to be heavily optimised for AMD CPU's as it's on both the upcoming XBox and PlayStation 5 which are both AMD CPU's.

And also 3000 series nvidia GPU's and Big Navi AMD GPU's are all set for release around September.
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Scott said:
Bumping up the CPU would allow for a one stop shop regardless of use :)

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL II GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT Eight Core CPU (4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Monitor
MSI 27" Optix MAG272CQR - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 165Hz
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,279.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NnfxFQN!2X/
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Hey peeps,

So I decided to wait it out for the RTX 3000 series and boy I’m glad I did. Once able I’m going to order this spec with the RTX3080.

My questions are as followed.

• Will I need a bigger PSU?
• Is it worth buying this monitor or considering 4K with the RTX3080? I know MFS2020 isn’t strong on FPS with 4K.

Really exciting times this month! I’ll be pressing F5 for the next few days/weeks 😃

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Crichton_123 said:
Hey peeps,

So I decided to wait it out for the RTX 3000 series and boy I’m glad I did. Once able I’m going to order this spec with the RTX3080.

My questions are as followed.

• Will I need a bigger PSU?
• Is it worth buying this monitor or considering 4K with the RTX3080? I know MFS2020 isn’t strong on FPS with 4K.

Really exciting times this month! I’ll be pressing F5 for the next few days/weeks 😃

Kind regards,

Jordan
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I would probably opt for the 3070 to be honest, save some cash. The 3080 is going to be completely wasted on FS2020 as you're going to be CPU limited (as with all simulators). The 3080, if initial specs and comments are to be believed, is no doubt a 4k GPU. It should be reserved for high end VR and high end 4k. FS2020 will smash 4k without any issues if you've got the CPU for it :D
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Scott said:
I would probably opt for the 3070 to be honest, save some cash. The 3080 is going to be completely wasted on FS2020 as you're going to be CPU limited (as with all simulators). The 3080, if initial specs and comments are to be believed, is no doubt a 4k GPU. It should be reserved for high end VR and high end 4k. FS2020 will smash 4k without any issues if you've got the CPU for it :D
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Awesome, thanks for the reply!

So stick with the Ryzen 7 3800XT or consider a bigger CPU?

And 750WPSU will be enough for the RTX3070/80?

Regards,

Jordan
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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Crichton_123 said:
Awesome, thanks for the reply!

So stick with the Ryzen 7 3800XT or consider a bigger CPU?

And 750WPSU will be enough for the RTX3070/80?

Regards,

Jordan
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The PSU will be fine for either. If opting for the 3080 it comes with an adapter to combine 2x 8pins to the 12 pin required. The 2070 I believe is still 8 pin (or dual).

With the CPU I would potentially opt for the 3900XT. Another angle to consider is to get the 3800XT, see how it fairs and then stick in the 4900X (5900X) next year. Looks to be a beast of a chip.
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Scott said:
The PSU will be fine for either. If opting for the 3080 it comes with an adapter to combine 2x 8pins to the 12 pin required. The 2070 I believe is still 8 pin (or dual).

With the CPU I would potentially opt for the 3900XT. Another angle to consider is to get the 3800XT, see how it fairs and then stick in the 4900X (5900X) next year. Looks to be a beast of a chip.
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Hi Scott,

I’m about to put my order through with initially no graphics card and will amend next Thursday for the RTX 3080.

In terms of motherboard would you recommend upgrading to the ROG STRIX X570-F or stick with the TUF Gaming B550?

For the 3900XT is the cooling in the above build suitable?

I was going to get a bigger case as well.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Is there a 4K monitor you would recommend? Only reason why I want to get the RTX 3080 is purely for a one stop shop. I’m sure that card will last me a long time. Also, I’ll be taking advantage of VR once released for MFS2020.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Crichton_123 said:
Is there a 4K monitor you would recommend? Only reason why I want to get the RTX 3080 is purely for a one stop shop. I’m sure that card will last me a long time. Also, I’ll be taking advantage of VR once released for MFS2020.

Kind regards,

Jordan
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I still think you're over-shooting but it's your money. Like I say, contextually, it's like buying a 2080Ti.... which right now is as good as there is for VR and for 4k. It's the current one stop shop and equivalent to the 3070. The 3080 is another level again and I understand that if money isn't an issue it's a fair choice, but the money saved could be put towards the next iteration again..... or an even better monitor.

What is your budget for the monitor? To make it worthwhile you're looking at 4k HDR 144hz IMO. You could also look at Super Ultrawide if that's going to be in budget. IMO that would be far better for flight sims and the likes.

As a small a-side, which VR headset is it you have?
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Scott said:
I still think you're over-shooting but it's your money. Like I say, contextually, it's like buying a 2080Ti.... which right now is as good as there is for VR and for 4k. It's the current one stop shop and equivalent to the 3070. The 3080 is another level again and I understand that if money isn't an issue it's a fair choice, but the money saved could be put towards the next iteration again..... or an even better monitor.

What is your budget for the monitor? To make it worthwhile you're looking at 4k HDR 144hz IMO. You could also look at Super Ultrawide if that's going to be in budget. IMO that would be far better for flight sims and the likes.

As a small a-side, which VR headset is it you have?
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Hi Scott,

Thanks for the reply.

I’m happy spending around £500/600 though just browsing there aren’t that many monitors at that price with the above spec. Which therefore means if there isn’t a monitor within the budget then the RTX 3070 will be the one.

I’m not overly sure which headset, one which will be compatible with MFS2020.

Kind regards,
 
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Crichton_123

Active member
Hey peeps,

Sorry to bother you again.

So I've been researching and I will be purchasing an ultra wide monitor (1440p, 144hz) with the prospect once I've saved again for a a 4k ultra wide in the future. I will aim to purchase the RTX3080 tomorrow but failing that, I will either purchase separately or proceed with the RTX3070.

Below is the spec I have tweaked from the initial one from Scott back in July:

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i PRO Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
NONE
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,660.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/KxPyBjPq!Z/



Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks again for your help.

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
AgentCooper

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If you’ve got the funds, add an extra Samsung 970 M.2, the 500GB one. Then ask PCS to put the OS on that drive. This means that you can use the 1TB exclusively for your games and you won’t have to download them all over again if you need to do a clean install of Windows at any point. It’s a bit of a luxury but worth doing 👍
 
Scott

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
SpyderTracks said:
I would try for a 3080 if you can, MSFS will make use of it.
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Are you thinking of Super Ultrawide? For ultrawide 1440p at 144hz I think the 3070 would be more than enough. It's a 4K card for most games and FS2020 is most likely going to be CPU limited even going forward. I think my 2080 (non super) could drive an ultrawide with FS2020 to be honest. 3070 would make my PC look slow :D
 
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