Potentially coming back to PCS.

barlew

Godlike
So after my well publicised departure from PCS at the start of the year, I have discovered the sun does not always shine brighter with the large laptop manufacturers, and they themselves do have problems. (Bear with me I will get round to explaining my story).

I went from PCS to a different manufacturer who charged me about £2.5k for a 15 inch i7-10875h RTX 2070 Super Max-Q. Silly money.
However that silly money did buy me an absolutely phenomenal machine (if not over priced).

7 months down the line the company released their new generation of the same laptop with a Ryzen 9 5900HX and an RTX 3080. This was even sillier money and me being me, thought it would be a good idea to sell the previous laptop and upgrade.

Big mistake... The new laptop on paper should be an absolute monster. Unfortunately it is not. The laptop suffers from severe stuttering issues on every single game I own. It does not matter if the games settings are reduced to the absolute minimum the stutter remains.

The only thing that seems to improve the stuttering is locking the framerate to 60Fps. This clearly is not a solution considering the specs of the machine and the fact it has a 300Hz panel.

After many many hours of testing I have come to the conclusion that the problem lies with the fact that the company for some bizarre reason decided to remove the MUX from the new generation of laptops and implementing Optimus. The reason I think locking the FPS helps is because it reduces the frames the dGPU is sending to the APU. I think the Ryzen 9 is struggling to keep up with the number of frames it is receiving from the RTX and is just dumping some which is causing the stutter.

So why am I posting this on a PCS forum? The laptop has been RMA'd and is going back to the manufacturer. I am confident they are going to tell me the laptop is performing as intended. At this point I will be getting my money back and looking elsewhere, against my better judgement I may as well come back to PCS as the big companies have just as many problems as the ones I experienced in the years I was a customer.

So here it is, I want an RTX 3080 laptop preferably with an Ryzen 9 5900HX (I appreciate this comes with logistical problems).

I have two big questions at this point:

1. Has PCS got a grip on the COVID situation and are their laptop build times better than they were a year ago?

2. It would appear my two options of laptop will be either a Recoil or the Ionico. Was the TongFang chassis the Ionico used the ticking time bomb we all feared after the Vyper debacle?

As always any advice comments and suggestions are much appreciated.

I want the laptop for gaming and want to playing everything with the shiniest settings possible at the highest frames possible.
 

Steveyg

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Got a laptop couple weeks ago mate, 14 working days until despatch to me for a Recoil 15.6"
 

Tron1982

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Hellow,

For the 1st question, the construction is, for laptop, pretty fast i'd say. The delivery is another problem though
For the 2nd, if i'm not wrong, i saw here and there some technical problem thread, but not so much

And, as it's my little "favorite" for now, what do you think about the destian ? (the amd powered clevo DTR)
I know it's limited to a 5600 cpu and a 3070 gpu, but i think it can be a wonderful and powerful machine
 

barlew

Godlike
Hellow,

For the 1st question, the construction is, for laptop, pretty fast i'd say. The delivery is another problem though
For the 2nd, if i'm not wrong, i saw here and there some technical problem thread, but not so much

And, as it's my little "favorite" for now, what do you think about the destian ? (the amd powered clevo DTR)
I know it's limited to a 5600 cpu and a 3070 gpu, but i think it can be a wonderful and powerful machine
Thanks for your response.

I had a look at the Destian but its far to big for me. I need something relatively thin and light weight.
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Thanks for your response.

I had a look at the Destian but its far to big for me. I need something relatively thin and light weight.
What I know about hardware you could write on a postage stamp in very large letters, but the terms "high performance" and "thin and light" are almost always mutually exclusive....
 

barlew

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What I know about hardware you could write on a postage stamp in very large letters, but the terms "high performance" and "thin and light" are almost always mutually exclusive....
Hahah I don't mind "high performance, thin and light but slightly hot...." that's somthing I just accept.
 

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williamrichier352

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hello, if it can help you I sold my ionico to buy the new one with the rtx 3080 and for the moment I must admit that I do not see any difference between the 3070 and the 3080 well I play in warzone so the games and not optimize.
I play Re8 and I have everything that works at the maximum the pc at the correct temperature if we change the thermal paste
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in addition, I learned from pcspecialiste that the 11800h version accept gen4 ssd at maximum speed (I have a 980 pro gen 4 ssd)

in short the pc and excellent as the above I just blame him for the keyboard, typing and still weird for my taste.
 

Mrcrstrlng31

New member
Figure I'll jump in on this.

Initially I was looking at and purchased the Valeon with the r9-5900 and a 16gb 3080, but after trying to get a little more info from them I was told they were waiting on a delivery of chassis which my previous build was reliant on, but couldn't give me any solid time frame as to when it would be. I was presented a offer to migrate to a different chassis and went with a Ionico i7-11800h and 16gb 3080 instead and... I'm still stuck in pre-production purgatory awaiting those 5 day emails to tell me they think my build will be started the following monday, I think I have 8 of these so far. If it wasn't for the fact I've had previously good experiences and recommendations with PCS I'd probably have kicked up more of a fuss, yet for now I'm hoping I'll get this before December but I have my doubts.

On the brightside the Ionico seems to be a very popular machine and one user has posted videos of theirs with a 3070 (can't remember the CPU they chose) and the Recoil does get some impressive benchmarks. Looking at other storefronts you'll find it difficult to match the price and support PCS offer, even with Black Friday and Xmas sales, and while I understand not giving concrete dates as to when the builds will be started, being a part of the beyond 5.91% club a little more transparency would go a long way.
 
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barlew

Godlike
Figure I'll jump in on this.

Initially I was looking at and purchased the Valeon with the r9-5900 and a 16gb 3080, but after trying to get a little more info from them I was told they were waiting on a delivery of chassis which my previous build was reliant on, but couldn't give me any solid time frame as to when it would be. I was presented a offer to migrate to a different chassis and went with a Ionico i7-11800h and 16gb 3080 instead and... I'm still stuck in pre-production purgatory awaiting those 5 day emails to tell me they think my build will be started the following monday, I think I have 8 of these so far. If it wasn't for the fact I've had previously good experiences and recommendations with PCS I'd probably have kicked up more of a fuss, yet for now I'm hoping I'll get this before December but I have my doubts.

On the brightside the Ionico seems to be a very popular machine and one user has posted videos of theirs with a 3070 (can't remember the CPU they chose) and the Recoil does get some impressive benchmarks. Looking at other storefronts you'll find it difficult to match the price and support PCS offer, even with Black Friday and Xmas sales, and while I understand not giving concrete dates as to when the builds will be started, being a part of the beyond 5.91% club a little more transparency would go a long way.

Thanks for your post. Sorry for the late response I I see this until this morning.

Have you received your laptop yet? If so what do you think of it?
 
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