RAM question

chucchy88

New member
Ill try my best to explain as I am new to Technicalities of PC components. currently trying to play a game called Escape From Tarkov. i am assuming it's a demanding game on my PC as all other games I've played there are no issues. the game in question Lags quite bad and I've read numerous times online people remedied the problem via installing more RAM. Is my Daughters gaming PC sufficient to play it or do i need to add more ram, if this is the case, what fits as i have not the first idea what to search for. I Found this system information if it helps.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.18362 Build 18362
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-FTQLI76
System Manufacturer PC Specialist LTD
System Model Tornado R3
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU 1433336
Processor AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics, 3500 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 4011, 19/04/2018
SMBIOS Version 3.1
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product PRIME A320M-K
BaseBoard Version Rev X.0x
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.387"

Time Zone GMT Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.94 GB
Available Physical Memory 3.15 GB
Total Virtual Memory 17.3 GB
Available Virtual Memory 10.4 GB
Page File Space 9.39 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualisation-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualisation Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Installing more RAM - or DOWNLOAD MOAR RAM as it's often sarcastically put - is still cited as a voodoo cure-all for PC problems of any kind.

In gaming it will almost never be RAM quantity that is causing a major performance issue. The performance difference between 8gb and 16gb RAM in most titles is very little - and if you only have 8gb RAM you probably have a very budget level system (which you do) where upgrading the RAM quantity still wouldn't make a real difference due to the low end CPU and GPU.

Sometimes dual/single channel RAM or RAM can improve performance, as can RAM frequency, especially with an APU (the kind of CPU you have).

But, some things to consider before rushing out to buy more and faster RAM:

1) Are we definitely talking about poor framerate (poor FPS, frames per second) rather than 'lag' which is caused by a poor connection to the game's server?

2) Tarkov is still in beta apparently which means performance won't be finally optimised and we don't know what final performance will be like. If you don't have oodles of cash for PC gaming hardware, buying hardware to try to navigate the choppy waters of a game still in Beta might not be a solid investment

3) I don't play it, but a quick google suggests the game is quite CPU-dependent. Adding more / faster / dual channel (if you don't already have dual channel) RAM may help, but may only go so far. A CPU upgrade could help more, but your options are a little limited with that motherboard.

4) Even though the game is very CPU dependent, it still wants a half decent GPU, so you may end up wanting up upgrade that too.

5) A new CPU, possibly with a new motherboard, with 16gb fast dual channel RAM, and a new GPU is basically a new PC.

Is she playing Escape from Tarkov on the absolute lowest settings possible?

Especially LOD, but tbh everything turned down as low as it will go?

Is the 'auto RAM cleaner' in the game turned off?
 

chucchy88

New member
thankyou for the reply. reading into the developer of the games updates they have been installing new servers and having a few issues so this could very well be the case as you stated with the connection to server. To be honest I am only just starting to get knowledge of what certain parts do , I shall research into what you have mentioned and I should imagine its financially better to get someone to build a pc rather than buying a off the shelf as such. I will hold fire till on spending money on anything till I know what things are. She will just have to be patient. thanks again
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
"lag" versus "low FPS"

The article is absolutely not exhaustive in listing solutions but it does give you a brief explanation of the difference between lag and low framerate (and how they can be linked in some games)

MSI Afterburner is your friend here:

It can display an overlay in-game that details hardware performance. Things like the load on the GPU, the load on each core of the CPU, and of course of your framerate.

e.g.
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Download and install MSI afterburner, and run it. On MSI afterburner there is a settings cog icon. Open it and enable the specific values we want to measure in the Monitoring tab. The On Screen Display tab lets you set up toggling the OSD.

Th screenshot above shows:
- the load on each CPU core
- the framerate
- the GPU temperature, load, and frequency
- VRAM usage (or allocation)
- frametime graph (how stable the framerate is - whether it's quite smooth or whether it changes from high to low very suddenly)

This is useful in your position because it shows:
- framerate (can help establish if the issue is just latency, or low fps)
If the framerate is low, it could be because of a CPU or GPU 'bottleneck'
- per core CPU load
If there is very high total CPU load that can indicate a CPU bottleneck. However, you can't just look at total CPU load because not all games efficiently use multiple cores. Some only use 1 or 2 cores. So you need to look at the load on each CPU core.
If there is high load on 1 CPU core, it can indicate a CPU bottleneck even if the other cores are on low load.

Obviously if 1 CPU core is (for example) at 100% load and the others are at 0% load, the total CPU load is only 25%. But you're still in a position where that single core is potentially what is limiting performance. You can't just look at total CPU load.

If the framerate is low and the GPU usage is 99% or 100% that usually would indicate a GPU bottleneck. i.e. the GPU is working as hard as it can to generate frames, and more horsepower is needed.

In the case of the screenshot I posted I'm GPU-bound at 70fps

If you are seeing low framerate, then make sure all the settings are turned down as low as they go. If necessary, reduce resolution from 1920 x 1080 to 1280 x 720. See if framerate improves.
 

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
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