We need more Processor Cooler AIR choice.
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The reason air coolers aren't really used anymore is they're not sufficient for most high end CPU's, you have to have an AIO cooler to maintain boost clocks and allow the CPU to reach the performance it's supposed to.
Just standard air cooler are not sufficient.
The NH-D15 or Deepcool Assassin III have the good format to be efficient and do the same job than a good watercooler (like H100x from Corsair). Ok you may overclock a little more GHz with watercooler than AIR solution.
(but to realy overclook mutch more you need a CRYO cooler, and that not user friendly at all)
Just AIR solution are bigger and less aesthetic than watercooler (that the only two bad points). Watercooler requires more advanced maintenance (like kill bacteria in the water), and in the event of a malfunction, the water can endanger the other components. So, both have advantages and disadvantages... but say it dosn't exist air cooler for most high end CPU's is not true.
So ok, if you would a realy extreme systeme, go to a full liquid systeme. But if you'r just a gamer, the most advanced AIR cooler is enought.
PCspecialist, already offers a Noctua product. Why not extend the range by adding just the equivalent of a H100x Corsair with the NH-D15 Chromax in term of efficiency?
It's just an option. You may continue to recommend the water cooling solution to users (I'm ok with that). But let those who knows the advantages and disadvantages of the two solutions make their choice.
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You are missing out closed loop liquid cooled Corsair 115i, 150i etc and a raft of other closed loop.
zero maintenance, quite, effecicient and effective, oh and usually quiet.
Now compare high performance Air with something like a Corsair 115i RGB Platinum.
zero maintenance - check.
looks good - check
quiet - check
keeps things cool - check
fitted to a 500D SE case - why would you even think of a fan, that simply moves ambient air around Inside the case?
as for longevity, have two rigs from circa 2010 with closed loop coolers..
yes you can get a big air cooler but it just shifts more air around inside the case, they are VERY dependant on case fans, especially exhaust fan(s).
zero maintenance, quite, effecicient and effective, oh and usually quiet.
Now compare high performance Air with something like a Corsair 115i RGB Platinum.
zero maintenance - check.
looks good - check
quiet - check
keeps things cool - check
fitted to a 500D SE case - why would you even think of a fan, that simply moves ambient air around Inside the case?
as for longevity, have two rigs from circa 2010 with closed loop coolers..
yes you can get a big air cooler but it just shifts more air around inside the case, they are VERY dependant on case fans, especially exhaust fan(s).
This is true? No maintenance! I can't believe that.
That's great. Expensive but great...
However, I think if you chose a watercooling you need to purshase an assurance in case of liquid projection on your expensive component.
You want all my money... LOL
(the warranty is not that expensive in truth (concerning desktop PC) it is rather cheap compared to what is usually done ... at least in France)
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As far as I know, the liquid used these days in AIO coolers is non-conductive so wouldn't cause any short circuits on the (very rare) occasions that they leak.
Martinr36
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nice........
I think: you never check to see how many bateria grow up* in a watercooler.
It's not realy, you need zero maintenance, the real fact is you can't maintenance (without dismantling).
*Source: youtube
watch?v=g12zLnhPMZk&t=6m23s
Note: I don't use the media option of this forum to play directly the video, because it's degusting.
It's not realy, you need zero maintenance, the real fact is you can't maintenance (without dismantling).
*Source: youtube
watch?v=g12zLnhPMZk&t=6m23s
Note: I don't use the media option of this forum to play directly the video, because it's degusting.
You do not need to maintain AIO's (certainly the Corsair ones but I imagine all others are of a similar nature as they're of a typical design, there WILL be exceptions to this I'm sure, but on the whole its simply not required) - they literally state this. You can choose to do stuff, but likely that will void the manufacturers warranty.
There is lots of anecdotal type evidence of users who've had these coolers for many many years with zero issues. Mine is over 8 year old and has had no problems for example.
I don't know what youtube video you're trying to refer to but ultimately I can't view it as the link isn't there.
An AIO is different to an open loop water cooler.
There is lots of anecdotal type evidence of users who've had these coolers for many many years with zero issues. Mine is over 8 year old and has had no problems for example.
I don't know what youtube video you're trying to refer to but ultimately I can't view it as the link isn't there.
An AIO is different to an open loop water cooler.
Very rare? How many time /1000 set up?
Martinr36
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That's what i was thinking & I've very little knowledge of these things, in fact i would have thought that more chance of bacteria on the dust sitting on the cooling fins of an air cooler
Not certain of the figures, Corsair (for example) offer hardware replacements if their components leak and cause a problem - so they're pretty confident that it won't cause an issue.
However I don't recall an issue being raised on here for several years. Ultimately there are hundreds of thousands of these coolers out in the wild
Bacteria could be an issue I guess (although given the closed loop has a limited supply of 'air' in it and some kind of sterile fluid I'd doubt it) but I'd suggest that opening the loop to 'clean it' will have the effect of introducing more problems/bacteria than you're trying to solve.
But @VinJol sorry this is derailing your original post sadly. Happy to move these AIO comments/queries to their own thread if you'd like?
If I post the link, the video is dirctly played on forum. So I didn't. But if you insist.
Warning: not a pretty sight
(Note: ok, it's not a prenium watercooler)
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That cooler looks ancient.
@VinJol for clarity, its generally not a problem to post youtube links to relevant content
But I don't think that video is relevant to be honest. The video description is;
"In this video, I go over one of the ways you can fix old aio or semi-open loop."
So you're starting from a position where the AIO is leaking. In truth, there's no evidence in there that suggests this is common or even likely on that particular style let alone on more modern AIOs.
But I don't think that video is relevant to be honest. The video description is;
"In this video, I go over one of the ways you can fix old aio or semi-open loop."
So you're starting from a position where the AIO is leaking. In truth, there's no evidence in there that suggests this is common or even likely on that particular style let alone on more modern AIOs.
Thanks @steaky360
That for me the better argument to make up my mind to put a watercooling in my desktop.
Even if I keep thinking for a i9 10900 (without multiplier) the NH-D15 is just perfect.
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My big negative against air coolers for systems that run warm - Hot, is that no matter the CPU air cooler, you really need to pick a case with Very good internal airflow, simply okay airflow does not do it, it has to be good airflow.
that means the Case and the fans fitted become critical.
quiet case and big air coolers are not really a thing.
I moved to water closed loop back in 2010 because I had a number of air fans fail and they never really managed uniform temperatures
not worried about bacteria, I very rarely lick my PC 😂,
that means the Case and the fans fitted become critical.
quiet case and big air coolers are not really a thing.
I moved to water closed loop back in 2010 because I had a number of air fans fail and they never really managed uniform temperatures
not worried about bacteria, I very rarely lick my PC 😂,
The Better argument would be WHY go with an Intel CPU?