Where to put WIFI ?

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rorbjo

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Hey all ! so I just bought this 3.5K PC and even though I told PCS ( literally FIVE TIMES no exaggeration ) that I am buying the upgrade specifically to put in two RTX cards . Buying one card off them plus have my own already. However they obviously just did not read my messages and just built whatever pc ignoring my request.
( I was polite too )

So anyway they gave me this with the WIFI taking up one of the slots ! so bascially I have the decision of no internet and two cards or one card with internet.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated . I would ask them but its clear PCS just dont read emails
 

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ubuysa

ubuysa

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It would appear that the motherboard you selected didn't have sufficient slots for three devices?

Perhaps a USB WiFi dongle would do?

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rorbjo

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I bought it based on their recommendations . Thanks for the reply ! I guess ill have to try find a good dongle or something
 
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Scott

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It looks like the PSU is in the way to me. A larger tower may have allowed access to the 3rd slot down the bottom (Assuming it's the Asus Crosshair VIII Hero).

I'm not sure if that case has the ability to mount the GPU vertically? If it does, that would allow space for the Wifi behind where the lower half of the GPU is.

Edit:

Looking at it again, that looks like it's onboard Wifi from the motherboard? If that's the case, can you not move the Wifi to the position 1 up from where it is just now in order to plug in the 2nd card? It'll fit in pos 1 or between the GPUs in position 4.
 
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The_Scotster said:
It looks like the PSU is in the way to me. A larger tower may have allowed access to the 3rd slot down the bottom (Assuming it's the Asus Crosshair VIII Hero).

I'm not sure if that case has the ability to mount the GPU vertically? If it does, that would allow space for the Wifi behind where the lower half of the GPU is.

Edit:

Looking at it again, that looks like it's onboard Wifi from the motherboard? If that's the case, can you not move the Wifi to the position 1 up from where it is just now in order to plug in the 2nd card? It'll fit in pos 1 or between the GPUs in position 4.
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Thanks for the reply Scotster,
You are right it is a Crosshair VIII hero board and it does have 3 slots but the two cards when in are too thick and cover the bottom slot whchi is just above the power unit . Would you say that a good usb dongle could do the trick ?
 
Scott

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rorbjo said:
Thanks for the reply Scotster,
You are right it is a Crosshair VIII hero board and it does have 3 slots but the two cards when in are too thick and cover the bottom slot whchi is just above the power unit . Would you say that a good usb dongle could do the trick ?
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Check my edit, it should work fine if you move the wifi bracket up one slot :)
 
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Can you take a better picture? I thought the on-board Wifi would have been on-board rather than plugged in. The bracket normally just houses the antenna and can be moved anywhere as it doesn't plug in... it just sits there.

That being said, I'm not familiar with the Hero boards physical attributes :D
 
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rorbjo

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The_Scotster said:
This is the Crosshair VIII I believe...


It shows the 2 antennae up the top at the back of the motherboard. Does yours not have this?
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Ahh yes . I know the board , its what I wished they gave me, mine does not have this unfortunately !
the wifi is a separate thing on mine and thats the thing in the graphics slot , the aerials plug into this thing . I think my only option is either ethernet cable or external dongle
 
Scott

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Ahh, it must be the non-wifi then.

Did it arrive in that configuration? Surprised that the GPU is in the lower slot as normally preference is to have it in the upper.

The trouble isn't really PCS's fault though. That's a triple height card so each card takes up 3 slots. That's 6 slots worth of space for just the GPUs. I don't think there are many motherboards that cater for this AND wifi via PCI slot. There are the odd ones that have a X1 port just above the upper slot, but I don't know how common these are at the high end.

A vertical riser would still be an option but that's an awful lot of hassle for Wifi. A dongle would be a decent solution. Wired would always be the best option though.
 
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rorbjo

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The_Scotster said:
Ahh, it must be the non-wifi then.

Did it arrive in that configuration? Surprised that the GPU is in the lower slot as normally preference is to have it in the upper.

The trouble isn't really PCS's fault though. That's a triple height card so each card takes up 3 slots. That's 6 slots worth of space for just the GPUs. I don't think there are many motherboards that cater for this AND wifi via PCI slot. There are the odd ones that have a X1 port just above the upper slot, but I don't know how common these are at the high end.

A vertical riser would still be an option but that's an awful lot of hassle for Wifi. A dongle would be a decent solution. Wired would always be the best option though.
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No the card and wifi were swapped around in the arrived config. the thing was I had told them I had one card already and they were supplying one card . so they gave me this knowing I could not be able to put in the two cards and have internet. I tried explaining to them numerous times I had a second card but they didnt listen.

If I had a bigger case Id have access to all three slots but as it is its only two . anyway thanks for your time Scotster
 
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Oussebon said:
There are 2 Crosshair 8s, one with onboard wifi, one without, PCS do the one without so it's a PCIe add in card.
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I dont know why they didnt just give me the one with the wifi at the back built in, this set up is terrible . not to mention the wifi card thing is painfully slow compared to my other computer. its almost useless its that slow.
 
Scott

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I get your frustration, I doubt they will have taken into consideration the 3 slot aspect of the GPU or the fact that there wasn't a PCIe slot above the 1st 16x one.

Looks like a monster build though, whats the spec? What's it for?
 
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The_Scotster said:
I get your frustration, I doubt they will have taken into consideration the 3 slot aspect of the GPU or the fact that there wasn't a PCIe slot above the 1st 16x one.

Looks like a monster build though, whats the spec? What's it for?
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I have 2 rtx2080ti and a Ryzen 3950x with 64gb or ram
I work in the 3d industry for disney but this in my home machine im using Redshift so it loves the GPU's !
 
Scott

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It'll be some machine, that's for sure.

With your use in mind I definitely wouldn't have recommended that case though. You're going to have 2 mahhooosive cards stacked directly on top of one another, stacked directly above the PSU.

I would have looked at a full tower to pack in that much hardware. I'm surprised the 570X was recommended to be honest. It's a stunning case, no doubt..... but it's an enthusiast level case with heavy gaming use in mind. This is another level IMO.

Edit: I would go as far as to say this is one of the VERY few times where I would actually have considered a liquid cooling system with 2 GPU blocks.
 
Oussebon

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rorbjo said:
Its a corsair cystal seris 570x gaming case
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Weirdly:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/CsEKGXneQZ/

PCS do let you order 2 triple-slotter GPUs + 1 wifi card in that case.



rorbjo said:
I dont know why they didnt just give me the one with the wifi at the back built in, this set up is terrible
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Because it's not the one they stock - they are 2 separate products. They can't give you something they don't stock.

If you're saying they should only stock the wifi one / give people a choice of the two, then that's worth feeding back to them.
 
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