€5000 Budget Gaming PC Advice

Joran C.

Member
Hello everyone!

I am in the final phases of getting myself a high performance gaming PC. I recently finished my studies and got a full-time job, and my first paycheck(s) are going towards this thing. Finally I'll be making one of my dreams true!

I want to put a disclaimer that I don't necessarily know a lot about the intimate technical details of PC hardware in general, as I've been occupied with other things. However, I tend to pick things up quickly, so if you need me to understand something, just point me in the right direction and I'll get busy. If you make a suggestion, I would request that you state your reasoning for your alteration as it allows me to think with you.

Now, to the real purpose of this post. The use-case is relatively straightforward: I want something that can manage high performance gaming on my 4k high resolution TV screen, with 2 other, somewhat smaller, screens to the sides. So that means 1 HDMI for the TV, and 2 display ports for the monitors. (I won't be gaming on 3 screens at once obviously, but I thought I'd mention it)

When I talk about high performance gaming, I don't necessarily mean just the staple AAA games used for benchmarking, but I also mean stuff like hyper-modded Skyrim (hyper-modded games in general), ultra-megabases in Factorio without (much) UPS loss, and generally I don't really want to have to worry about specs when trying out any new game. (By which I mean, a smooth playable FPS, I don't care for getting 300+ FPS but I won't complain when it happens.)

Further, my intent is that this thing will last me a long, long time. I do not intend to do any upgrades to it in any foreseeable future, BUT I do want to have room for upgrades if I decide to go for it in the relatively far future. (I intend to maybe replace stock fans with higher quality ones, or maybe having some more storage if it turns out I really need it, but that's about it).

Then there is the matter of aesthetics. As I'll be using this PC for a long time, I want it to be beautiful and cool. For that purpose I do not mind paying a hefty price for things like better cable management, RGB effects, or an overkill PC-case. Saving money (as long as it is within the relatively generous budget as stated in the title) is not really a priority here.

Lastly, I'm not sure whether I am comfortable placing tubes with liquid in my computer. I understand that they should be safe, but I don't want to do it if I can reasonably get away with it. The configurator of the PCS site doesn't let me select larger air coolers, though, as it seems to be incompatible with RGB Ram.
I am on the fence about this point. I can of course always replace the air cooler with a higher quality one myself, as PCS doesn't really offer them (at least not on my side), but I would prefer not to.
And on the side of liquid coolers, I read you have to replace them every few years anyway, which is also something I don't really want to do. (I would probably let someone else do it for me. People who say "but it's so easy lmao", don't care, I know that I will not mess with something that I do not understand.)

And by the way, I want AMD components. Just my own preference, sorry!

Below is the configuration after spending some time thinking about what I want. If you have thoughts about anything you can think of, please do not hesitate to let me know!
Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700M TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - Black
ARGB Power Supply Extension Cables
LIAN LI ARGB STRIMER PLUS V2 24-PIN CABLE
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 RGB V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler (AMD)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
3 x CoolerMaster SickleFlow 120 ARGB + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
Netherlands/Nederland - Dutch Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 DAY INSURED DELIVERY BY PALLET TO BELGIUM
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 10 working days

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sck451

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First off, I presume your TV is a high refresh-rate one? No point spending this money unless it's 4K 120Hz at the minimum!

You're way overspending on certain things in my view. The most obvious are the case, the motherboard and the cable sleeving. You're underspending on storage, power supply and cooling. I think you can get a much better balance. Now, if you want to spend the huge amount that that case costs, along with the fancy cables, it's your money! But I wouldn't do it without also improving the other components. (Also, I have no idea how much of a pain it would be to ship that case to Belgium... I belive it adds an extra €100 to the cost!)

Here's where I'd go in your shoes:

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY 2 LIGHT TEMPERED GLASS An awesome case, so much cheaper than the other one and still gorgeous IMO
Processor (CPU)

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready! Just no point spending €200 extra on the Crosshair; it gains you nothing
Memory (RAM)

64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (4 x 16GB) Honestly I'd be inclined to go for 32GB here because 64GB isn't necessarily the most stable thing in the world
Graphics Card

24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W) Boot drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive

4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W) Games drive
1st Storage Drive

2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE Better to have this in one hard drive than two
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

6x Slim USB 2.0 External Blu-Ray Writer As the case I suggest doesn't have a 5.25" bay
Power Supply

CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET Top end build has to have a top-end power supply
Power Cable

1 x 1.5 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - Black Or you could just buy the Strimer Plus cable extensions for the GPU cables as well so it all matches...
ARGB Power Supply Extension Cables

LIAN LI ARGB STRIMER PLUS V2 24-PIN CABLE
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler I like air cooling too. This is the best liquid cooler, though. That's better for shipping, and just as reliable and about as quiet. I wouldn't disagree with getting a cheap cooler and fitting a NH-U14S, but I'd also be happy with the H150i. Custom liquid cooling needs replacing and maintenance, but AIOs don't.
Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
Netherlands/Nederland - Dutch Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 DAY DELIVERY TO BELGIUM
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 10 working days
Price: €4.004,00 including VAT and Delivery
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Joran C.

Member
Thank you for your contribution sck451!

Yes, the TV has a 120 Hz refresh rate. Further, the PC should be built here and shipped, I just posted in this forum as the Dutch forums are not very active at all. So shipping should not be an issue!

If the power supply needs to be high end for this to work, then I agree. (Price difference seems minimal anyway).

If the motherboard is overkill, then I can go for a less expensive one. I heard that the high end motherboards have more options for upgrades in the future, so that was my initial reasoning. At the same time, I don't see myself using many of the fancy features they bring.

I can allocate more towards storage, then. The 4 separate drives did have a purpose:
- 1 SSD for programs (and OS)
- 1 SSD for games
- 2 HDD's for media (separate drives for separate kinds of media)
I enjoy this kind of structure. I obviously know you can just place files in separate folders in the same HDD, but I guess I'm just special on that front. If I have two SSD's that have a different capacity though, I'll go crazy, as I like consistency.
In any case, I have increased the capacity according to the extra funds freed up from the motherboard.

Regarding the RAM, I want to avoid instability, so I reduced to 2x16 GB for a total of 32 GB. I didn't want to leave any slots unused (again, for aesthetic reasons), but performance and stability does have priority here.

The case having a 5,25" is kinda a big deal for me. If I'm already going to spend a lot of money, I might as well get something exactly as I want it, like having a blu-ray drive. I like to collect and use older media that's burned on CD, DVD, and BLU-RAY, and having it integrated in my PC is just that much more convenient.
The only other case that I saw with a 5,25" bay was the one from 'be quiet!', which was also very large, and good-looking, and cheaper. But if I have to choose then between that one and the COSMOS, I think I'll get more enjoyment out of the COSMOS!
The last thing I want is to do an expensive purchase and then think "damn, I wish I had gotten the other one!".

I'm still thinking about the cooling solution. I have never used liquid cooling before, but at the same time it just might be the best thing long-term. And, I'm going to assume that the more expensive ones are very reliable.
I'm considering it now. But no definite answer yet.


I'm not going to post the new configuration just yet, it's getting late and I really need to get to sleep soon for work tomorrow, but I wanted to get these thoughts out there so I don't forget.

Thank you, I will check the thread tomorrow again!
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
I can allocate more towards storage, then. The 4 separate drives did have a purpose:
- 1 SSD for programs (and OS)
- 1 SSD for games
- 2 HDD's for media (separate drives for separate kinds of media)
I enjoy this kind of structure. I obviously know you can just place files in separate folders in the same HDD, but I guess I'm just special on that front. If I have two SSD's that have a different capacity though, I'll go crazy, as I like consistency.
I'm exactly the same, best practice IMHO
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Thank you for your contribution sck451!

Yes, the TV has a 120 Hz refresh rate. Further, the PC should be built here and shipped, I just posted in this forum as the Dutch forums are not very active at all. So shipping should not be an issue!
Fair enough!

If the power supply needs to be high end for this to work, then I agree. (Price difference seems minimal anyway).
It isn't needed for it to work, but it it is sensible. 850W is enough; 1000W is comfortable; 1200W is sensible given the cost of the system and the potential for upgrades.

If the motherboard is overkill, then I can go for a less expensive one. I heard that the high end motherboards have more options for upgrades in the future, so that was my initial reasoning. At the same time, I don't see myself using many of the fancy features they bring.
Unless you need huge amounts of PCIe slots (and unless you know you do, you don't), they offer precisely nothing. A more reasonable X670E board will offer the same compatibility for CPU and GPU upgrades, which is all that really matters.

I can allocate more towards storage, then. The 4 separate drives did have a purpose:
- 1 SSD for programs (and OS)
- 1 SSD for games
- 2 HDD's for media (separate drives for separate kinds of media)
I enjoy this kind of structure. I obviously know you can just place files in separate folders in the same HDD, but I guess I'm just special on that front. If I have two SSD's that have a different capacity though, I'll go crazy, as I like consistency.
In any case, I have increased the capacity according to the extra funds freed up from the motherboard.
The point is that the OS drive doesn't need to be as big. It costs you money for no gain (well, other than a symmetrical "This PC" window). The OS drive benefits from speed; the games drive benefits from capacity.

I'd go to 2TB for the hard drives, by the way: the difference in cost is surprisingly little, and you also get more cache, so small writes are much faster.

Regarding the RAM, I want to avoid instability, so I reduced to 2x16 GB for a total of 32 GB. I didn't want to leave any slots unused (again, for aesthetic reasons), but performance and stability does have priority here.
4x16GB is probably fine. If PCS stock it, I'm sure they're confident in it. But DDR5 and "stability" don't necessarily go hand in hand. But if all you're doing is gaming, you won't notice the difference between 64GB and 32GB anyway...

The case having a 5,25" is kinda a big deal for me. If I'm already going to spend a lot of money, I might as well get something exactly as I want it, like having a blu-ray drive. I like to collect and use older media that's burned on CD, DVD, and BLU-RAY, and having it integrated in my PC is just that much more convenient.
The only other case that I saw with a 5,25" bay was the one from 'be quiet!', which was also very large, and good-looking, and cheaper. But if I have to choose then between that one and the COSMOS, I think I'll get more enjoyment out of the COSMOS!
The last thing I want is to do an expensive purchase and then think "damn, I wish I had gotten the other one!".
Fair enough: I totally get all that!
 

Joran C.

Member
Hello! Friday evening and I have some time and motivation to get back to this.

So I updated the specs based on some of the feedback here. You can scroll down to see it.

Main changes are probably a less expensive motherboard, and going from air cooling to liquid cooling.
Decided to go with the high end liquid cooling, as I really don't want to take risks with those, plus I wanna be able to play max battle size modded Bannerlord without my CPU blowing up.
I also increased my overall storage capacity.

Beyond that, I have some questions for you about PCSpecialist itself.
So image that I ordered this build today. How does PCSpecialist handle all the different parts and options that the components bring? For example, here both the ASUS motherboard and the Corsair liquid cooling come with RGB software. I even saw that this particular cooling comes with a central adapter that you can use to attach RGB hardware. Will PCSpecialist do all of that for me? And how will they manage the RGB softwares, and how they interact?
Can I give them specific instructions on how to deal with this, or do they just wing it and say "lol just figure it out"?
And there's other stuff like, how is their cable management?
And will I receive all the manuals and extra components that I would normally receive if I bought it in a store or online?

These are the kinds of things that I'm occupied with right now. I intend to contact them directly to ask about this also, but I want to hear from others about their experience, so that I don't get a "oh yea yea we'll do that for you", and then receive a mediocre service after paying a huge price.

Anyway, the specs:

Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700M TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - Black
ARGB Power Supply Extension Cables
LIAN LI ARGB STRIMER PLUS V2 24-PIN CABLE
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
Netherlands/Nederland - Dutch Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 DAY INSURED DELIVERY BY PALLET TO BELGIUM
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 10 working days

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sck451

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Main changes are probably a less expensive motherboard, and going from air cooling to liquid cooling.
Decided to go with the high end liquid cooling, as I really don't want to take risks with those, plus I wanna be able to play max battle size modded Bannerlord without my CPU blowing up.
Good calls.

I also increased my overall storage capacity.
I do think your symmetric storage design is a mistake. Good design means a smaller boot drive (as not much needs to go on it) and a larger games drive. You don't want to put games on the boot drive. So your design means you have essentially less space for the same money. Or you'll end up with a very confusing set of files, spread over two drives. All of this feels bad to me.

Beyond that, I have some questions for you about PCSpecialist itself.
So image that I ordered this build today. How does PCSpecialist handle all the different parts and options that the components bring? For example, here both the ASUS motherboard and the Corsair liquid cooling come with RGB software. I even saw that this particular cooling comes with a central adapter that you can use to attach RGB hardware. Will PCSpecialist do all of that for me? And how will they manage the RGB softwares, and how they interact?
Can I give them specific instructions on how to deal with this, or do they just wing it and say "lol just figure it out"?
I would expect that they will install the appropriate software, that is to say, iCue and Armoury Crate. The former can actually also control the motherboard (though not ARGB strips attached to it). So it'll all be maneaged easily or can be managed easily.

And there's other stuff like, how is their cable management?
And will I receive all the manuals and extra components that I would normally receive if I bought it in a store or online?

These are the kinds of things that I'm occupied with right now. I intend to contact them directly to ask about this also, but I want to hear from others about their experience, so that I don't get a "oh yea yea we'll do that for you", and then receive a mediocre service after paying a huge price.
As @CountingDown says, the cable management in my experience and from seeing others' photos is very good (though tastes differ about where the GPU cables go!) and you get a box with all the manuals and included cables. I don't think you have anything to fear.
 

Joran C.

Member
Thank you for the nice feedback and responses!
I'll ask the support to confirm a few things for me and then when the next paycheck comes in soon it's go time.

About the drives:
I do think your symmetric storage design is a mistake. Good design means a smaller boot drive (as not much needs to go on it) and a larger games drive. You don't want to put games on the boot drive. So your design means you have essentially less space for the same money. Or you'll end up with a very confusing set of files, spread over two drives. All of this feels bad to me.
I genuinely do not understand the fuss around this. Like, I do not understand if there is some kind of technical reason for this. On my current machine I have programs AND games on the same drive my OS runs on, and I haven't noticed anything. I have put things on, and off that drive occasionally (gasp!). And it's a tiny one of 128 GB.
Why are you talking as if it's impossible to put anything on the same drive your OS is on? As far as I understand it's not wasted space at all.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
I genuinely do not understand the fuss around this. Like, I do not understand if there is some kind of technical reason for this. On my current machine I have programs AND games on the same drive my OS runs on, and I haven't noticed anything. I have put things on, and off that drive occasionally (gasp!). And it's a tiny one of 128 GB.
Why are you talking as if it's impossible to put anything on the same drive your OS is on? As far as I understand it's not wasted space at all.
In the old days, you didn't have a choice, if you reinstalled windows, you had to reinstall your games. That's no longer the case, having a dedicated games drive means they're not affected if you reinstall windows which you should do once a year on each major revision update.

Things have moved on a lot. It also affects performance having games on your OS drive and this will be even moreso as Microsoft directstorage is implemented further.
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
About the drives:

I genuinely do not understand the fuss around this. Like, I do not understand if there is some kind of technical reason for this. On my current machine I have programs AND games on the same drive my OS runs on, and I haven't noticed anything. I have put things on, and off that drive occasionally (gasp!). And it's a tiny one of 128 GB.
Why are you talking as if it's impossible to put anything on the same drive your OS is on? As far as I understand it's not wasted space at all.
Not fuss, just trying to offer advice. Sorry if I've upset you.

It's absolutely fine and won't cause any problems at all. However I strongly believe it's worth having dedicated OS and games drives.

First, because it's neat and tidy. All your games are in one place. Simple.

Second, because you can therefore reinstall Windows (as is sometimes necessary) without worrying about game download files, which can be a big deal.

Third, because you can fill a games SSD up to the gunnels with files and it's OK, but if you do that to your OS drive, you'll slow it down. (The fuller an SSD is, the slower it performs. This matters less for games, but for an OS it's huge.)

Ultimately, it's your PC, so buy what you're happy with. No judgement from me. But it would be a shame IMO to buy a PC that's less well optimised for your purposes than it could be.
 

Joran C.

Member
I wasn't upset, sorry! I was just really not understanding the point and wanted to follow the reasoning. I mean, there might be technical things I don't really know about. Thank you for the patience and clarity.

I'm going to be just a little bit pedantic and say that I stated that I wanted 1 SSD for programs and OS, not games and OS.
So my setup would be
- SSD1: OS and Programs
- SSD2: Games
- HDD1: Media Drive 1
- HDD2: Media Drive 2

Programs being pretty much anything that isn't a game, and I don't have too many of those. Basic video and audio editing and playing, 7-zip, that kind of stuff. The reasoning being that categorically and mentally I consider those to be part of the functionality of the PC itself (like, what I can do with the PC), rather than the pure playthings that games are.

I totally get that in the end it doesn't matter for your (plural) points about having to reinstall everything, and lowering performance if you put more things in the OS drive, but unless it was something that would result in heavy failures, crashes, and so on, I think I want to do things the way I laid out.
To me, the mental space being freed up by knowing what goes where without thinking about it (and never having to think about whether I have the space) is worth the money and performance. Even if I have to reinstall those programs if I ever decide to do a clean windows install (which will be its own little adventure).

That is basically how I look at most things in life, where I strive to build my environment into a state which is most compatible with how I think and work mentally. This does often cause me to pay more, but it is an easy calculation to make for me. You can't eat your money, it doesn't make for a good bed, nor can you play games on it. Don't worry, I save for rainy days, too.

I believe I'm rather close to the final stages of my prospecting. If there's literally anything at all you want to put on the table, I'm more than willing to listen!
 

sck451

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I wasn't upset, sorry! I was just really not understanding the point and wanted to follow the reasoning. I mean, there might be technical things I don't really know about. Thank you for the patience and clarity.

I'm going to be just a little bit pedantic and say that I stated that I wanted 1 SSD for programs and OS, not games and OS.
So my setup would be
- SSD1: OS and Programs
- SSD2: Games
- HDD1: Media Drive 1
- HDD2: Media Drive 2

Programs being pretty much anything that isn't a game, and I don't have too many of those. Basic video and audio editing and playing, 7-zip, that kind of stuff. The reasoning being that categorically and mentally I consider those to be part of the functionality of the PC itself (like, what I can do with the PC), rather than the pure playthings that games are.

I totally get that in the end it doesn't matter for your (plural) points about having to reinstall everything, and lowering performance if you put more things in the OS drive, but unless it was something that would result in heavy failures, crashes, and so on, I think I want to do things the way I laid out.
To me, the mental space being freed up by knowing what goes where without thinking about it (and never having to think about whether I have the space) is worth the money and performance. Even if I have to reinstall those programs if I ever decide to do a clean windows install (which will be its own little adventure).

That is basically how I look at most things in life, where I strive to build my environment into a state which is most compatible with how I think and work mentally. This does often cause me to pay more, but it is an easy calculation to make for me. You can't eat your money, it doesn't make for a good bed, nor can you play games on it. Don't worry, I save for rainy days, too.

I believe I'm rather close to the final stages of my prospecting. If there's literally anything at all you want to put on the table, I'm more than willing to listen!
Fair enough, I get you. The only thing I'll say is that my C drive has (a) Office, (b) the entire Adobe creative suite, (c) Visual Studio with a lot of plugins (45GB worth), (d) a 40GB downloads folder and a bunch of other clutter, and it's still only at 350GB! Whereas game files are huge, and 4TB genuinely wouldn't be stupid in a system of your kind of budget.

Anyway, I'll leave it there! Hope you get what you need/want/deserve/enjoy!
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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Another consideration with the drives is they have their own connectivity path. If you have the OS on a drive and a game on another drive, they are on separate resources so they can work independently. If you were to load a game on a secondary drive, it won't interrupt any OS processing on the primary drive.

It's a really good habit to get into. It also allows you to upgrade the OS drive to the latest and greatest without breaking the bank and with minimal fuss.
 
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