Am I overworking my Cooler/Fans?

[Aza]

I wanted to do a post asking about fan curves and cooler settings but its telling me all the pictures I try to upload are too large (even when I reduce quality or change file type to shrink the size). So i'll have to play a little to try and get a photo of the inside of the case.

Are there any good posts or resources that I could use to learn more about it?

Ive got a feeling i'm being too hard on the cooler, and perhaps need to relax the curves a little, but im also confused about just how many sensors I can use and which one I should be chosing to regulate speeds...

When i'm doing everyday stuff like MSOffice or internet browsing/streaming videos its very quiet, but when I start gaming theres a big ramp up in fan speed.
Ive got the cooler (H115i Elite cap) set to read the coolant temp and try to keep this around the 32C mark or under when im gaming...sits very comfortably around 28/29 the rest of the time.

Ive got the front intake and rear exhaust fans running off internal case temps, using a sensor thats in the top half and again trying to keep temps under 35C (tends to get to around 32C with the fans going near max speed for intake, about 1400 to 1500) under heavy load, and it sits around 26 to 27C with general use and the fans will sit around 850 revolutions to 1000 and are quite quiet.

Intakes are 120LL fans, max speeds 1500 ish (iCue will take them to 1550 on full pelt) rear extract is a 120ML pro and it tends to sit around 700/800 with general use, going up to around 1200 under load (I believe it can go higher but I dont want it on full whack and possibly interferring with the intake to the cooler fans which sit in the top of the case and extract air out).

Some screenshots of my fan curves in iCue:

 

[leea123]

I wanted to do a post asking about fan curves and cooler settings but its telling me all the pictures I try to upload are too large (even when I reduce quality or change file type to shrink the size). So i'll have to play a little to try and get a photo of the inside of the case.

Are there any good posts or resources that I could use to learn more about it?

Ive got a feeling i'm being too hard on the cooler, and perhaps need to relax the curves a little, but im also confused about just how many sensors I can use and which one I should be chosing to regulate speeds...

When i'm doing everyday stuff like MSOffice or internet browsing/streaming videos its very quiet, but when I start gaming theres a big ramp up in fan speed.
Ive got the cooler (H115i Elite cap) set to read the coolant temp and try to keep this around the 32C mark or under when im gaming...sits very comfortably around 28/29 the rest of the time.

Ive got the front intake and rear exhaust fans running off internal case temps, using a sensor thats in the top half and again trying to keep temps under 35C (tends to get to around 32C with the fans going near max speed for intake, about 1400 to 1500) under heavy load, and it sits around 26 to 27C with general use and the fans will sit around 850 revolutions to 1000 and are quite quiet.

Intakes are 120LP fans, max speeds 1500 ish (iCue will take them to 1550 on full pelt) rear extract is a 120ML pro and it tends to sit around 700 with general use, going up to around 1200 under load (I believe it can go higher but I dont want it on full whack and possibly interferring with the intake to the cooler fans which sit in the top of the case and extract air out).

Some screenshots of my fan curves in iCue:
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ok, I have the elite 115i and 5900x CPU.i have a custom fan curve set to gradually increase fans to 50 percent at 70c and no more and it keeps my processor no hotter than 78 c. I have 3 case fans for intake which I set a constant 1100 rpm in icue i do not even look at the coolant temp. i just check the CPU temp . my coolant goes around 45-50 c not an issue. i am no expert but that's my set up with icue. Gives me a nice balance of noise and performance and of course a separate curve for GPU in msi afterburner. what cpu u running ?

i can post my icue screen shots if you want

 

[Aza]

AMD 3800XT, CPU temp sits around 45 to 50C when gaming...one of the reasons i'm wondering if i've got it working too hard...
Your cooler curve would be useful, I suspect I can relax mine a lot and what youve said supports that idea quite heavily, it'd give me a nice reference point.

Id like to keep some flex in my intake fans though rather than set speeds... the amount of heat the GPU can pump out means I want to have increased airflow going through the case when it starts putting some work in... but sounds like I can relax that a little too.

GPU temps will go up to 70/75C and I control that through Firestorm.

 

[Aza]

So I created another fan curve for the cooler, using the AMD Ryzen package sensor this time (taking it to mean thats the CPU temps)
One of the reasons I resisted using this sensor before is because AMD chips have a habit of the temp jumpinog up and down periodically, and can do so by about 5 to 10C instantly before drop[ping back down over a couple of seconds.

I was concerned with how that would impact the fans, ramping up and then dipping? but the curve seems to be smooth enough/spread out enough that it doesnt really have any impact with general use.... havent had a chance to see what its like with a game running yet.

I think the spikes are that quick that before the fans can react, its already dipped back... so might not make any real difference at all but wanted to ask.

 

[leea123]

AMD 3800XT, CPU temp sits around 45 to 50C when gaming...one of the reasons i'm wondering if i've got it working too hard...
Your cooler curve would be useful, I suspect I can relax mine a lot and what youve said supports that idea quite heavily, it'd give me a nice reference point.

Id like to keep some flex in my intake fans though rather than set speeds... the amount of heat the GPU can pump out means I want to have increased airflow going through the case when it starts putting some work in... but sounds like I can relax that a little too.

GPU temps will go up to 70/75C and I control that through Firestorm.

thats my cpu curve fan 1 and 2 is cooler fan 3 case fan. The 1100rpm case fans helps push the heat from the gpu to rear of case, that is why they are set to that level constant, as noise is quiet, and with fan curve in afterburner it keeps my gpu to 75-77 c with a max 70 percent set on my gpu fans. hope it helps a little. I am still learning but this seems to work for me and my set up

 

[Aza]

lol so i'm possibly still making it work harder than it needs too lol
Im thinking i'll need to try a few different ones ansd see what the results are like when playing maybe?
Get one i'm comfortable with, but also resist the urge to be "overprotective" on the temps

 

[Aza]

So, relaxed the curve on the cooler fans and linked them to the CPU rather than coolant temps, and relaxed the clurve on the intake and exhaust fans...

Temps still pretty happy, CPU sitting around 45-55C Temps in case higher but still pretty nice at 32C to 34C but the fans are now at about half the noise they were making before and ramp up slower as well.

Started with a nice light game (Hearthstone) and now doesn make a peep, its just like it is when surfing the web or streaming videos etc so very quiet, loaded up Balders Gate 3 which used to get the fans going on nearly full before, and its sitting quite happilly around 1200 on the intake fans rather than nearer 1500 so noticably quieter i'm pretty pleased!

Soon as I came out of the game using the windows key (so its still running in the background) it started to slow a little so its not "live" pictures, but you can see the new curves etc and it hadnt had a chnce to cool down fully

 

[B4zookaw]

ok, I have the elite 115i and 5900x CPU.i have a custom fan curve set to gradually increase fans to 50 percent at 70c and no more and it keeps my processor no hotter than 78 c. I have 3 case fans for intake which I set a constant 1100 rpm in icue i do not even look at the coolant temp. i just check the CPU temp . my coolant goes around 45-50 c not an issue. i am no expert but that's my set up with icue. Gives me a nice balance of noise and performance and of course a separate curve for GPU in msi afterburner. what cpu u running ?

i can post my icue screen shots if you want

Coolant at 40-50C sounds hot to me! My H150i on 5900x would not get over 37C.

 

[Aza]

With the tweeks i've made my coolant is still staying under 40C, havent seen it go above 35C and I just spent an hour or so playing BG3 which gives it a fair bit of exercise.

I'll def bear that in mind if I tweek it any further.

 

[leea123]

Coolant at 40-50C sounds hot to me! My H150i on 5900x would not get over 37C.

corsair quote between 30-about 55c from what i read , i am learning still so i may be mistaken

How high can the temperature of the H115i be so that the pump will not be damaged

Hi Community, I have a question. How high can the temperature of the corsair H115i be so that the pump will not be damaged? I have 28 Celsius in my room anderen get 40-42 Celsius of water temp.

forum.corsair.com

 

[B4zookaw]

It might be technically safe, but I'd be concerned your config is not operating efficiently if your coolant is getting close to 50C regularly. As c-attack (one of the resident experts in Corsair forusm) in that thread says "once you start getting into 45-50C, you need to ask questions about why things are that warm."

What temp is your CPU package at when coolant hits 45-50C? Does the coolant stay in that range for an extended period? What % speed are your fans at that stage?

 

[leea123]

It might be technically safe, but I'd be concerned your config is not operating efficiently if your coolant is getting close to 50C regularly. As c-attack (one of the resident experts in Corsair forusm) in that thread says "once you start getting into 45-50C, you need to ask questions about why things are that warm."

What temp is your CPU package at when coolant hits 45-50C? Does the coolant stay in that range for an extended period? What % speed are your fans at that stage?

CPU temp is 75-77c, coolant just stays in that range of 45-50 when on load, offload about 39c coolant with CPU around 42 c, my fan speeds are only at 55 percent at load, but tbh even if i ramp them right up it does drop a little, but not massive

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

CPU temp is 75-77c, coolant just stays in that range of 45-50 when on load, offload about 39c coolant with CPU around 42 c, my fan speeds are only at 55 percent at load, but tbh even if i ramp them right up it does drop a little, but not massive

If you're on quiet profile, then coolant temp will be high as the pump isn't running fast enough. Needs to be in balanced or high performance.

 

[leea123]

If you're on quiet profile, then coolant temp will be high as the pump isn't running fast enough. Needs to be in balanced or high performance.

i have got pump on extreme, I was a little concerned so i called pcs and asked questions, and they said that my coolant temps ok, and just look at the actual CPU temps, and as long as cpu temps are ok, then all good.

 

[Aza]

If you're on quiet profile, then coolant temp will be high as the pump isn't running fast enough. Needs to be in balanced or high performance.

I have mine set to quiet, but coolant temps dont get that high in my system.
I use quiet because I can then hardly hear it, its not loud on balanced but it is noticable. Do the couple of hundred extra revolutions make that big an impact? Should I have mine set to balanced?

CPU is also a lower spec, so not as much heat output as a 5900X or above (3800XT).

 

[leea123]

Hello all , So need some advice really , hope you can help.

I am so confused with conflicting answers i am not sure what my best option is . My concern is the coolant temperature in my aio. My fan curve keeps the cpu at 70c which is great for the 5900x on load , but the coolant temp of the h1151 goes to around 50c. From what i have read on the net it should not really be this high .
I have sent several emails to pcs and a few phone calls to them discussing this and they tell me to just focus on the cpu temp and not the coolant temp which if that is the case then all good. I have tried the built in presets which works on coolant temp not cpu temp and they all send my aio spinning at around 1500-1700 rpm mostly which does drop a little to around 1300, but even then the coolant temp is still around 42c.

What i am confused about is when i use the built in curves the cpu temp drops for example to 60 -65c which really is still so cold for the 5900x but as it is working off the coolant temp that is the result . So i theory i have had a lot of headroom for my cpu so of course i adjusted the fan curve to suit and cpu temp is great but that pushes up the coolant temp .

If i wanted to upgrade the cooler to the H150i what would be the best option , i did mention this to pcs but they said it would be the upgrade path on website, which is an expensive way as as far as they say there is not an issue and i would have to pay for collection as well as its not faulty .
One of the messages i got was telling me that the coolant in the aio was good for very high temps but it would never ever reach that, and there was a cut off anyway if it got to high which would cause a shut down which i looked was 70c in icue .

Basically what i have been told by pcs is that my temps of coolant with my fan curve is fine, but everywhere else says its bad i am a little confused with my options if i am not happy with it . Any suggestions be great thanks .

 

[sck451]

It doesn't sound like there's a problem (in that it's the CPU temperature that really matters), but maybe the radiator isn't functioning properly for some reason. What case do you have? Where is the radiator mounted? Have you cleaned it? (If there's, say, pet hair or dust on the radiator or fans, it will work less efficiently.)

 

[leea123]

It doesn't sound like there's a problem (in that it's the CPU temperature that really matters), but maybe the radiator isn't functioning properly for some reason. What case do you have? Where is the radiator mounted? Have you cleaned it? (If there's, say, pet hair or dust on the radiator or fans, it will work less efficiently.)

thanks for the reply , there is no hairs from pets or anything, rad is at top of case pushing air out which is not even warm air really , no dust or anything case is the CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE. Thanks

 

[leea123]

Your cooler temperature concernes were covered in your post from late 2021:

what coolant temp is limit for h115i elite cap aio ?

Hi all,so after my fan fun which was sorted out in here, with many thanks, i m trying to make a balance between performance and noise while gaming . At moment when set up i am hitting around 45c in coolant temperature under stress . I have read iit is ok to go to 50c , but thought i would ask...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

As noted there, CPU temps are more important..if your cooler temps were in the 70s with the CPU temp, then there'd be cause for concern. A cooler temp of 50 max on load is fine

Thank you, just a bit of anxiety creeping up on me

 

[sck451]

Thank you, just a bit of anxiety creeping up on me

The worst that "high" coolant temperatures will do is decrease the lifetime of the cooler. So pre-emptively replacing it feels unnecessary.