Buying new pc. what's needs to be changed?

[saino24]

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 10 Core Processor i9-9820X (3.3GHz) 16.5MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME X299-A: ATX, USB 3.1, SATA 6 GB/s, RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

Get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

Get Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE

 

[SpyderTracks]

What’s it for? What programs or games?

What’s your max budget?

What monitor are you pairing it with? What resolution and refresh rate or make and model if you’re unsure?

 

[saino24]

This is for gaming only. I am trying to get it on finance to pay like 200 pounds monthly. The other thing is i have ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms HDMI Gaming Monitor, so i only buying a hdmi cable and the question is will it support 144hz refresh rate? Thank you for the help

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is for gaming only. I am trying to get it on finance to pay like 200 pounds monthly. The other thing is i have ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms HDMI Gaming Monitor, so i only buying a hdmi cable and the question is will it support 144hz refresh rate? Thank you for the help

That monitor is going to limit you, 1080p is really a dead resolution and most modern cards are designed for higher.

What's the total maximum budget you're looking at? We don't see monthly payments?

 

[saino24]

I earn approximately 1500 per month. So it means i won't be able to run it 1080 at 144hz? thanks

 

[SpyderTracks]

I earn approximately 1500 per month. So it means i won't be able to run it 1080 at 144hz? thanks

Sorry, I wasn't asking how much you earn, but what your maximum budget is for the build? We don't get to see the monthly payment breakdown, only the total cost.

My point is 1080p is a dead resolution, it's very old and most graphics cards these days are overpowered for it. 1080p will seriously reduce the visual potential of modern games and graphics cards.

You'd be better off investing in a 1440p 144hz monitor to make the most out of a modern build.

 

[saino24]

Sorry my bad. Which monitor you suggest me to buy?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Sorry my bad. Which monitor you suggest me to buy?

Let’s start from scratch again.

What’s your budget for the monitor?

What’s your budget for the computer?

 

[saino24]

2000-2300 pounds

 

[saino24]

for monitor is 400

 

[SpyderTracks]

As an example:

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 570X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

Get 3 Months of XBOX Game Pass for PC w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs

The Outer Worlds -OR- Borderlands 3 w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

Get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CORSAIR MP600 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 4950MB/R, 4250MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
AOC AGON AG271QX 27" Freesync Gaming Monitor
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £2,315.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/zUrjAvANtz/


Review of the monitor here:

AOC AG271QX Agon 27-inch FreeSync Monitor Review

AOC is going high-end with its new line of gaming monitors called Agon. Today we’re looking at the AG271QX, a 27-inch TN panel with QHD resolution, 144Hz and FreeSync that works down to 30Hz.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[saino24]

thanks for the help. And sorry for miscommunication.

 

[SpyderTracks]

thanks for the help. And sorry for miscommunication.

No problem, let us know how you get on, if you order it and you feel like it, post some pictures when you get it.

 

[samwil]

I'd go for a spec closer to this https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/Km8nU7rghd/

With some suggestions.

Feel free to downgrade the Cooler to an alternative, cheaper H100.
Adjust the PSU to a lower wattage if your not bothered about noise and want some excess cash.

Add WiFi card if needed, I always remove as Desktops usually are and should be connected via ethernet.

 

[samwil]

Alternative build https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/3dk8Uy5HV!/

Monitor suggestions are for a £350.00 approx monitor that displays 1440p and at 144hz, alternative is a 4k display. The above AOC seems adequate.

The intel spec above has a stronger CPU however you'll only see a small benefit with this, whereas the amd spec quoted will give you a 2080 Ti which has a more significant impact on gaming performance.

Again feel free to adjust the storage, cooling and PSU to your needs and any other features.

Also the 2.5 inch seagate barracuda SSD is slightly faster and slightly more expensive so feel free to up this.

 

[samwil]

I've also made you a much cheaper alternative, spares you money for premium peripherals and a premium monitor

PCSPECIALIST - Top Spec Custom PCs & Laptops Built to Order

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[SpyderTracks]

Also some comparisons for you to measure up.

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs Intel Core i9-9900K

cpu.userbenchmark.com

CPU

UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 2080-Ti vs 2080S (Super)

gpu.userbenchmark.com

GPU

User Benchmark and the like should literally never ever be used, they're utter junk results that don't make any sense in the real world.

They match up all users not taking into account overclocks or model variations. They're literally meaningless results.

Userbenchmark adjusting CPU 'rankings', pandering to Intel?

Userbenchmark changes their CPU rating algorithm to push huge focus on 1T performance while nerfing nT performance because 'Ryzen is too fast'

www.tweaktown.com

 

[SpyderTracks]

The difference between the R7 3700x and the I9 9900k at 1080p there is a noticeable difference, but when you consider the price difference, it's still barely worth it.

Once you up the resolution to todays norms of 1440p and 4k, you'll find the difference drops phenominally due to AMD's multi threaded advantage, you're literally talking a max of 5fps difference which at over 144fps doesn't make any difference anyway to 99% of gamers.

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X Review

It's finally time to review AMD's new 3rd-gen Ryzen processors. The Ryzen 9 3900X is a 12-core, 24-thread processor with a massive 64MB L3 cache. It costs...

www.techspot.com

Add to that that AMD recent BIOS updates have ADDED performance improvements up to about 5% with further enhancements to be added with further updates:

Upcoming AMD UEFI Update Will Improve Ryzen Boost Clocks - ExtremeTech

AMD has released an updated AGESA version to motherboard manufacturers to improve Ryzen 7nm boost clocks. Expect updated UEFIs to arrive in 2-3 weeks.

www.extremetech.com

And round that off with the fact that all Intel chips suffer from MAJOR security bugs that Intel refuse to address it a hardware level, and OS and microcode updates keep being rolled out that is decreasing their performance, below is just the latest one:

New Intel security flaws could slow some chips by nearly 20%

Intel Corp and a group of security researchers on Tuesday said they had found a new set of security flaws in its processors that will be difficult to fix and are related to problems found last year.

www.reuters.com

I'd highly recommend NOT considering Intel, they're an absolute rip off company that have done their best to control the market for many years out of greed. They have no affinity to their loyal fan base, and have now been fully surpassed by AMD.

 

[samwil]

Thanks Spyder, Must admit I was always hesitant to suggest Intel chips and the only one I have been suggesting to people has been the 9900k if you have a very high budget. Other than that I always suggested AMD 3600/700x and 900x. Did see the 3950x was due out soon and well see how that goes.

Thanks for the info, always learning Further reassures me that I made the right choices for my budget and that Intel is currently Team Poo.

So back to OP, a 3700x and a 2080 Ti will maximise his performance with consideration for value on current hardware?

Right on budget too https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/ZbpGTEC!gc/