Changing parts

First time buying here and was going to order the RTX 3080 non-founder edition but if the Asus Strix 3080 came in stock could I switch it out after I've ordered? Also bit of a side question but what brand cards do you get with the non-founder edition like Gigabyte or MSI? Thx :)
 

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Rakk

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Yes you can amend your order as much as you like with no extra charges (other than prices changes of components) when you're in pre-production (there are amendment charges if its in build or later as they'll have to take apart and rebuild) and unless you make a significant change your queue position will not change (where significant means you'd need to use a different configurator eg if changing from Intel to AMD or vice versa)

Currently normally PCS provide Palit, Zotac or Gigabyte cards for non specified NVidia cards but this isn't guaranteed as you'll get what they can get hold of
 

Citrus_9

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Thank you for the reply that really helps :)
What PSU have you got? If you want, drop us your full specs (as explained in the link below) and we'll have a look how well it's balanced ;)

 
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £2,253.00 including VAT and Delivery
 

Citrus_9

Expert
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £2,253.00 including VAT and Delivery
A link to your specs would be helpful - it's in the the end of the specs when you were copying :) There definitely are a few things to make better, but the link would save us time!
 

Citrus_9

Expert

Citrus_9

Expert
I love the PC case you've picked, but I doubt you need 2 (!) extra case fans. What for? This PC case comes with 3 front fans already - don't need extra sound from the extra fans. 5600X stock cooler will do the job paired with 3 fans coming with the PC case.

OK, what to start with... I'm very interested, why would you pick X570 Plus motherboard if you've only chosen one M.2 SSD? It's very much recommended splitting storage: 1 fast for OS and another for games and everything else. In this case you'd be splitting the uses through two PCIe rather than forcing everything to be read/write through one. Two storage drives would be giving performance.

I've changed a motherboard to B550 with a built-in wifi - no need to have a separate wifi card then.

Another thing - why 32GB RAM? 16GB should be enough... Dropped RAM to 16GB but took a faster one instead. Thermal compound - pre-applied is better as taking that off and putting an extreme thermal wouldn't guarantee that it would be applied perfectly equal - and that matters.

Dropped a Bullguard antivirus as it's a troublemaker and also Chrome is no good - you're giving to Google your browsing data for free and helping them to make a huge profit of using your data for advertisements... MS Edge is better.

Having more info as per my above request, would help to tweak your build exactly the way it would be best for you, but this is what I came up with right now...

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £2,203.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/V8QUkVYjQz/
 
Budget: around £2000 maybe stretch to £2100
Usage: general gaming (anywhere from Minecraft to Cyberpunk)
Monitor: currently I'm 1080p 165hz but I plan to upgrade to 4k. 27inches for both
 

Citrus_9

Expert
Budget: around £2000 maybe stretch to £2100
Usage: general gaming (anywhere from Minecraft to Cyberpunk)
Monitor: currently I'm 1080p 165hz but I plan to upgrade to 4k. 27inches for both
Perfect, thanks for that! Yep, my above build will be ok for that then. And I definitely don't see the reason for 32GB RAM.

You'll be getting new 4K monitors within a few months - not next year, right? (otherwise better to downgrade a GPU to match 1080p monitor and upgrade a GPU when you'll get 4K monitors as that time there will be new and better GPUs released for similar, same or lower price).

Edit: If you want to save some money, you can change SATA 2TB SSD to HDD, that would make the whole build £132 cheaper. I wouldn't recommend that though, because SSD are more quiet and faster then HDD, but that's entirely up to you.
 
Thank you for the feedback. just a quick question would it not be better to go for a bigger but slightly slower PCle like this one 2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W) for the OS drive?
 
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Citrus_9

Expert
Thank you for the feedback. just a quick question would it not be better to go for a bigger but slightly slower PCle like this one 2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W) for the 2nd drive?
Splitting storage is better: imagine if OS is busy updating and you're also using the PC for your own needs. That would slow down things a bit as everything goes through one storage reading/writing and files are waiting in a queue. While two storages is good because they can work same time without interfering and making files to wait... It's like two cashiers in a supermarket instead of one when there's a queue of people enough for both.

Another useful thing - whenever you need to reinstall OS, you wouldn't loose files in the second drive as you'd only be reinstalling it on the first one. When there's only one drive in a PC, you'd need to back up all of the files, and after reinstalling OS, put them back into places. It takes more time and it's more frustrating in case you'd forget to back up something important.

So just that... Nowadays it's recommended in the new machines at least two, one for OS and one for everything else, drives. If you look other threads - we always recommend two drives (only when a budget is very tight or PC is just for office work, one drive may be ok). I don't know about CORSAIR drives, that's why I changed it to a Samsung (it's the fastest possible drive in the market at the moment), but a slightly slower and a bit cheaper Firecuda is also a very good M.2 drive!
 

Citrus_9

Expert
Ok thank you very much this has been really helpful :)
Forgot to mention that you can save some money by changing Nvidia 3080 to AMD Radeon 6800XT if you want. It doesn't support DLSS and has a weaker ray-tracing performance, but has more VRAM, newer architecture and beats 3080 in rasterization games.
 
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Forgot to mention that you can save some money by changing Nvidia 3080 to AMD Radeon 6800XT if you want. It doesn't support DLSS and has a weaker ray-tracing performance, but has more VRAM, newer architecture and beats 3080 in rasterization games.

Where would you place it on raytracing? The reviews ive seen say its AMD's first step into it and its not great.
Do you think its better, similar or worse than raytracing on Nvidia RTX 20 series?
From the reviews it sounds a bit like AMD are like Nvidia 30 series with 20 series raytracing or a little weaker.
 
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