Closed loop high spec gaming pc (Intel build) - suggestions welcome

[Jonnus]

Hi guys,

I had posted a build a while back and got some suggestions - namely not going open loop and changing to AMD. I have put together a build here that is still intel (higher clock speed is the reasoning...and the fact that most games won't use 10 cores anyway) as I'd rather not wait until the AMD chips can be ordered in 2 weeks time and it seems a minimal clock speed gain whilst having an uptick in cores that most games won't use. If I was to go AMD I'd have to wait for the 5950X as opposed to the 3900 which is what I'd probably get now if I were to go AMD (which I don't think I will for the aforementioned reasons).

I have replaced the 3090 with the 3080 from the sensible suggestions I received here.

I have replaced the open loop system with a closed loop.

Happy to receive any further advice but do bear in mind I want to get on the waiting list soon (today).

ok - EDIT time - I have seen that the AMD systems are quicker at lower temps...which probably means I get better longevity. I'm getting a few more FPS at higher clock speeds with Intel but I suppose I've got to ask; is it worth it? If it is worth it am I MASSIVELY missing out by not getting the new chips in 2 weeks? I'll probably be on a waiting list for that and the 3080 which means a mega wait....which I reaaaaaaalllly don't want. I'm happy to get a 3900XT if that'll do. Anyway, second build with AMD below the first

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 10 Core Processor i9-10900X (3.7GHz) 19.25MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME X299-A II: ATX, USB 3.2, SATA 6 GB/s, ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
6x Slim USB 2.0 External Blu-Ray Writer
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
2x 50cm Blue LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
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MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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Google Chrome™
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3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
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Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
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PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Price: £3,530.00 including VAT and Delivery

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Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
6x Slim USB 2.0 External Blu-Ray Writer
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
2x 50cm Blue LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
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Google Chrome™
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3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
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TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 10.30AM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £3,328.00 including VAT and Delivery

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[Jonnus]

Ok....I will go down the AMD route and also save myself a few quid (i.e. the bottom build); am I being completely silly NOT waiting for 05/11/2020 and the new chips? I'm not likely to bottle neck until I upgrade in years anyway am I? I won't overlook the voices of reason I've seen here over the past few weeks...but would like a really good argument that means I should wait for the new 5nm chips and additional cost+wait incurred.

Also any thoughts on the actual build?

 

[Jonnus]

I'm not the person to ask about whether the new chips are worth it...however, personally, I'd wait for the sake of 2 weeks (given you have a 3080 in your build, it is entirely possible that it will be held up by the graphics card rather than the CPU (guess it depends how AMD handle stocks etc) anyway)

Regarding the propsed build:

- Motherboard: You want the Strix X570 variant as it has more VRMs to allow the chip to get to the maximum
- Cooler: You want the H115i RGB Platinum....newer cooler which is more effective at removing the heat. It is only £3 more for a better cooler. You can, however, save £9 by dropping the Thermal Paste option....the high-end Corsair coolers comes with paste pre-applied by Corsair so it doesn't need any more. Net gain of £6!!

ALL ABOUT THE NET GAIN!!!! I think I'll get the 3900XT and then just ask them to upgrade to the 5900 if it doesn't get the 3080 in time. i.e. if it gets to 05/11/2020 and it's not available I'll get it upgraded.

 

[AccidentalDenz]

I'd wait for the sake of 2 weeks (given you have a 3080 in your build, it is entirely possible that it will be held up by the graphics card rather than the CPU (guess it depends how AMD handle stocks etc) anyway)

Rumours are that Nvidia are planning to put out a lot of 3080s towards the end of this month, so if you're ordering in the next few days, you may well reach the building stage around the time the chips come out.

 

[Scott]

I would personally hold off. I would select the 3900X just now and opt for the 5900X as soon as it's an option.

FWIW I don't think you'll see much gains (if any) over the 3800XT/5800X. There are some games that will use it. If FS2020 is your bag then it's maybe worth a punt as it becomes more mature, other than that though you're looking at strategy/turn based games to have any real impact over the 8 cores 16 threads.

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

The 5000 series are going to be a MAJOR improvement in all areas, they are well worth holding off for.

 

[Jonnus]

I've been told that I'm likely to get built end of november as waiting lists stand. So I've put my order in and been told I can amend it for the release on 05/11 for the new CPU's. If I'm built before then:

a) I'll be happy it got built so quickly!
b) I doubt, for my gaming needs, I'll be held back. If I am I can always pony up for an upgrade.

I got the 3900XT as per your helpful suggestions....unless, of course, I'm not built by 05/11 then I'll get the 5950

I know some of you may consider it madness...but c’est la vie

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

I've been told that I'm likely to get built end of november as waiting lists stand. So I've put my order in and been told I can amend it for the release on 05/11 for the new CPU's. If I'm built before then:

a) I'll be happy it got built so quickly!
b) I doubt, for my gaming needs, I'll be held back. If I am I can always pony up for an upgrade.

I got the 3900XT as per your helpful suggestions....unless, of course, I'm not built by 05/11 then I'll get the 5950

I know some of you may consider it madness...but c’est la vie

You won't want the 5950x, it's not a gaming CPU and will have lower clocks than the 5900x. It will actually perform worse for games as games use single core clocks.

 

[Jonnus]

If there are any suggestions for an awesome monitor for no more than 1k that’d be great! I know there is an asus rog 34” curved pcs have (but are out of stock) that I love the look of. I know there’s been a super widescreen suggested but I don’t want to go beyond 34” really. Hit me with your suggestions!

 

[Jonnus]

And thanks huntsman. 5900 it is!