Fan Not working on/off

[robevz]

Hi apologies if this is not the correct section

https://business.currys.co.uk/catalogue/computing/desktops/windows-desktops/pc-specialist-vortex-fusion-ii-gaming-pc/N148708W

I actually bought my pc from pc specialist but the link above will show you the exact one ive got

It is an outstanding piece of kit for the price i bought it at the time 2014/2015 think it was £1200 not a single thing has gone wrong with it never had to take it in for anything really top notch super fast & still is to this day

The only issue ive noticed in the past couple months is the fan at the back of the tower stops working, when i turn the pc on sometimes it randomly starts but most mornings it dont so i gotta get my hoover out which has an opposite setting on it which blows air so i use that against the fan which gets it going & is then totaly fine the rest of the day never stops

As far as im aware the other fan/fans are ok not sure how many are in there but its the back one all the time so my question is would it be a case of getting a new fan as im clueless with these sorts of things

Thanks in advance

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi apologies if this is not the correct section

https://business.currys.co.uk/catalogue/computing/desktops/windows-desktops/pc-specialist-vortex-fusion-ii-gaming-pc/N148708W

I actually bought my pc from pc specialist but the link above will show you the exact one ive got

It is an outstanding piece of kit for the price i bought it at the time 2014/2015 think it was £1200 not a single thing has gone wrong with it never had to take it in for anything really top notch super fast & still is to this day

The only issue ive noticed in the past couple months is the fan at the back of the tower stops working, when i turn the pc on sometimes it randomly starts but most mornings it dont so i gotta get my hoover out which has an opposite setting on it which blows air so i use that against the fan which gets it going & is then totaly fine the rest of the day never stops

As far as im aware the other fan/fans are ok not sure how many are in there but its the back one all the time so my question is would it be a case of getting a new fan as im clueless with these sorts of things

Thanks in advance

If you can post the full specs from the order page of your account please as that listing doesn't give all the specs?

 

[robevz]

If you can post the full specs from the order page of your account please as that listing doesn't give all the specs?

not quite sure what i am looking for i have been on my account but cannot see any order page

i think this is what your looking for its on the link i sent its down the page under the specs tab

Manufacturer's Part Number PCS-D851728 EAN 5055893602058 RAM 16GB DDR4 (64GB maximum installable RAM) Hard Drive 2TB HDD, 7200 rpm. 240GB SSD OS Provided Windows 10 home (64-bit) Form Factor Gaming Processor Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor - Quad-core - 4.6 GHz - 8 MB cache

Overview​

Type Gaming desktop Operating system Windows 10 (64-bit)

Connectivty​

Wireless No Ethernet Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000) USB - USB 3.0 x 4
- USB 2.0 x 2 Video interface - HDMI x 1
- DisplayPort x 1
- DVI x 2 Audio interface 3.5 mm jack Other ports PS2

Power​

PSU Corsair CS650, 650 W

Specification​

Processor - Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Processor
- Quad-core
- 4.6 GHz
- 8 MB cache Memory (RAM) 16 GB DDR4 (64 GB maximum installable RAM) Graphics card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4 GB GDDR5) Storage - 2 TB HDD, 7200 rpm
- 240 GB SSD Motherboard ASUS Z170-P

Sound​

Sound 7.1 surround sound support

General​

Colour - Black
- Green LEDs Box contents - PC Specialist Vortex Fusion II Gaming PC
- Power cable
- Welcome pack
- Manual
- Drive discs Dimensions 460 x 235 x 480 mm (H x W x D) Weight 12 kg Manufacturer’s guarantee - 1 year parts
- 3 years labour
- Lifetime tech support Software included - Microsoft Office trial version
- Bullguard Internet Security 90 day trial

Media​

Optical disc drive DVD/RW with double layer support Expansion card slot - PCIe (x1) x 2
- PCIe (x16) x 1
- PCI mini x 2

 

[SpyderTracks]

You said you’d bought it from PCSpecialist.

If so, you log into your PCS account that you used to purchase the machine and go to orders, then copy and paste the full specs as in the guide above. If there's nothing showing it's because you haven't logged in with the account you ordered it with. The PCS account is separate to this one, it's on the main PCS website www.pcspecialist.co.uk which is a completely different account to this site.

You’ve just copied the page from curry’s but that doesn’t list the required specs.

We could take a guess but it’s unlikely to be accurate

 

[Martinr36]

not quite sure what i am looking for i have been on my account but cannot see any order page

Go to your main account page and you should see this, click on orders and quotes

 

[robevz]

You said you’d bought it from PCSpecialist.

If so, you log into your PCS account that you used to purchase the machine and go to orders, then copy and paste the full specs as in the guide above. If there's nothing showing it's because you haven't logged in with the account you ordered it with. The PCS account is separate to this one, it's on the main PCS website www.pcspecialist.co.uk which is a completely different account to this site.

You’ve just copied the page from curry’s but that doesn’t list the required specs.

We could take a guess but it’s unlikely to be accurate

Showing Order Reference 885736
Case	SHARKOON BD28 GAMING CASE (Green LED)
Overclocked CPU	Overclocked Intel® Core™i7-6700k Quad Core (4.00GHz @ upto MAX 4.60GHz)
Motherboard	ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)	16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 970 - 2 DVI, 1 HDMI, 1 DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card	NONE
3rd Graphics Card	NONE
1st M.2 SSD Drive	NONE
1st Storage Drive	240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Storage Drive	2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
1st PCI-E SSD Drive	NONE
2nd PCI-E SSD Drive	NONE
RAID	NONE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	NONE
External Hard Drive	NONE
Memory Card Reader	NONE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 650W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling	CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste	ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting	NONE
Fan Controller	NONE
Extra Case Fans	NONE
Sound Card	ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless Network Card	10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Router/HomePlugs	NONE
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Capture/Streaming Cards	NONE
Firewire	NONE
TV Card	NONE
Operating System	Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
Windows 10 Upgrade	FREE Upgrade to Windows 10 with all Windows 7 & Windows 8.1 Purchases*
Windows Recovery Media	Windows 10 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software	FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus	BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor	NONE
2nd Monitor	NONE
Monitor Cables	NONE
Eyefinity Adapter	NONE
Keyboard & Mouse	NONE
Mouse	NONE
Headsets	NONE
Mouse Pad	NONE
Simulator Controllers	NONE
Speakers	NONE
Webcam	NONE
Surge Protection	NONE
Cable Management	NONE
Printer	NONE
Warranty	3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation	NONE
Delivery	STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time	Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

 

[SpyderTracks]

That's a very basic case, pretty sure the fan is just plugged in via the psu rather than actually controlled.

I would just look at replacing the fan.

 

[robevz]

That's a very basic case, pretty sure the fan is just plugged in via the psu rather than actually controlled.

I would just look at replacing the fan.

cheers mate i have no clue what psu is ill just follow your lead
Are there shops these days that have people who come out with parts to fix/replace if you pay them? not being able to drive is awkward trying to carry that thing on a bus everywhere

 

[SpyderTracks]

cheers mate i have no clue what psu is ill just follow your lead
Are there shops these days that have people who come out with parts to fix/replace if you pay them? not being able to drive is awkward trying to carry that thing on a bus everywhere

You don't need to take it anywhere, just order a fan and fit it yourself.

 

[robevz]

You don't need to take it anywhere, just order a fan and fit it yourself.

but if you dont know how then it becomes a bit of a problem i just know ill start fiddling with it & then wont know what part goes in what slot then im without a pc
not sure if this might 100% confirm its the fan but usually when i turn the pc on & just wait for it to load to the desktop passwprd screen no matter what i do with the air compresser on the hoover it takes a fair few goes to get it moving
But what i did today is load the pc up as normal the fan wasnt moving which was expected but then before i started air compressing it i loaded up football manager which requires some power to play & then got the hoover on it while it was loading & the fan worked first time
So it basically spins first time if you have a heavy powered game already running its as if its giving the fan a head start
otherwise takes 5-10 mins to get going

 

[SpyderTracks]

but if you dont know how then it becomes a bit of a problem i just know ill start fiddling with it & then wont know what part goes in what slot then im without a pc
not sure if this might 100% confirm its the fan but usually when i turn the pc on & just wait for it to load to the desktop passwprd screen no matter what i do with the air compresser on the hoover it takes a fair few goes to get it moving
But what i did today is load the pc up as normal the fan wasnt moving which was expected but then before i started air compressing it i loaded up football manager which requires some power to play & then got the hoover on it while it was loading & the fan worked first time
So it basically spins first time if you have a heavy powered game already running its as if its giving the fan a head start
otherwise takes 5-10 mins to get going

It's literally screwed to the case at four corners and one cable goes to the motherboard and one to the PSU, that's it. There's nothing to it.

If you're going to own a custom PC, you need to know how to make upgrades and generally get to know the insides, otherwise it's pointless.
Any custom PC, the first upgrade is going to be the GPU, no matter what you fit when you buy it.

 

[robevz]

It's literally screwed to the case at four corners and one cable goes to the motherboard and one to the PSU, that's it. There's nothing to it.

If you're going to own a custom PC, you need to know how to make upgrades and generally get to know the insides, otherwise it's pointless.
Any custom PC, the first upgrade is going to be the GPU, no matter what you fit when you buy it.

i plan to keep this pc for as long as possible i never intend to get a custom pc as you need to specifically choose the best parts you want & thats out of my knowledge

given that you know what desktop tower i have do you recommend a specific fan? as there are tons around ive seen some for £8 then some much more expensive i dont want to get the wrong one which may be too big etc etc

 

[Scott]

My guess is it actually has hair/dust trapped. Sometimes the initial jolt has enough torque to get it going, sometimes it doesn't.

If you take the side panel off you should be able to see where the wiring goes. Take note of it if you're doing this sort of thing for the first time, pics will help too.

Unplug then remove the fan, typically 2 or 4 screws in the corners. From this point you can either give it a right good clean/blast out or you can replace it.

 

[robevz]

My guess is it actually has hair/dust trapped. Sometimes the initial jolt has enough torque to get it going, sometimes it doesn't.

If you take the side panel off you should be able to see where the wiring goes. Take note of it if you're doing this sort of thing for the first time, pics will help too.

Unplug then remove the fan, typically 2 or 4 screws in the corners. From this point you can either give it a right good clean/blast out or you can replace it.

this is why i need help thats actually one of the most natural basic first steps anyone should do before buying is try fix/clean your original first & i didnt even think about that at all
cheers mate ill probably try that first take it out give it a good blast then if it still dont work ill have to come back on here & ask for a recommended fan

Cheers

 

[robevz]

still need help with this if possoble ive just taken the fan out & cleaned it as you suggested but seems to be doing the same problem i start the power button,it trys to spin for 2-3 seconds then stops so probably looks like i need a new fan
anybody know what fan is at the back of my pc from the specifications? it looks quite a simple fan as ive seen on youtube some fans have two wires coming from it but mine only has one , seems to be a 3 pin socket on the end of the fan i was confused at first as the socket i pulled it out from had 4 pins but i worked it out in the end
just need to know the exact one as im not in a position to send things back if its the wrong one for example no car,no envelopes/packages etc etc

thanks in advance

 

[SpyderTracks]

still need help with this if possoble ive just taken the fan out & cleaned it as you suggested but seems to be doing the same problem i start the power button,it trys to spin for 2-3 seconds then stops so probably looks like i need a new fan
anybody know what fan is at the back of my pc from the specifications? it looks quite a simple fan as ive seen on youtube some fans have two wires coming from it but mine only has one , seems to be a 3 pin socket on the end of the fan i was confused at first as the socket i pulled it out from had 4 pins but i worked it out in the end
just need to know the exact one as im not in a position to send things back if its the wrong one for example no car,no envelopes/packages etc etc

thanks in advance

You can buy any fan, that’s a simple non pwn fan but you can replace with any 120mm fan

 

[robevz]

You can buy any fan, that’s a simple non pwn fan but you can replace with any 120mm fan

thanks buddy i know fans only have 1 job but is it better to get a more expensive faster spinning fan or do they all just do the same regardless?
from above it looks like i have this one CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler but looking on google that one seems to be whats in the middle of the tower attached to pipes not at the back of it so maybe thats the wrong one to go for

 

[SpyderTracks]

thanks buddy i know fans only have 1 job but is it better to get a more expensive faster spinning fan or do they all just do the same regardless?
from above it looks like i have this one CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler but looking on google that one seems to be whats in the middle of the tower attached to pipes not at the back of it so maybe thats the wrong one to go for

That’s the cooler, it’s not related to case fans.

Any basic fan without rgb like a noctua, sickleflow, Pure Wings, any of them, doesn’t make any difference.

 

[robevz]

That’s the cooler, it’s not related to case fans.

Any basic fan without rgb like a noctua, sickleflow, Pure Wings, any of them, doesn’t make any difference.

ok thanks mate i did go onto argos but fans on there seem to be £69 cheapest which to me seems expensive

would this one be ok from amazon? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Mas...-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

 

[SpyderTracks]

ok thanks mate i did go onto argos but fans on there seem to be £69 cheapest which to me seems expensive

would this one be ok from amazon? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Black-Cooling/dp/B086RC5BBS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3KGDOVEE1L4J4&keywords=cooler+master+sickleflow&qid=1706390008&s=computers&sprefix=cooler+master+sickleflow+,computers,70&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

Yep, that's fine, any 120mm fan will do