Feedback greatly appreciated

[Jingo]

Hi all,

I know almost nothing about building a desktop, other than some basics re. the best graphics cards etc. Can anyone see any glaring problems with this spec? There are a few things I didn't change from the default, and other things I guessed about so happy to take advice. Looking for a gaming setup that will handle everything, and money is (almost) no object.

Thanks in advance.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY S2 BLACKOUT TEMPERED GLASS (LS)
Custom Liquid Cooling Kit
Liquid Series RGB High Kit - Corsair Hydro X
Tubing
Clear Flexible Tubing (Black Fittings)
Graphics Card Cooling
GPU Water Block - For One Graphics Card!
Coolant Colour
Mayhems Pastel Blue Berry
LED Lighting
50cm White LED Strip
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9-10900K 10 Core (3.7GHz @ up to 5.1GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z490-F GAMING (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 120 2.5" SSD, (up to 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Liquid Series® Build - RTX 13 to 15 working days

Price: £3,649.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[Jingo]

Should add that I had no idea which chipset to pick, so again happy to take advice on changing that.

 

[Mugenjin]

If you're waiting for the RTX 3090, you're better off with the Ryzen 5900X or 5950X for the CPU, available to order from 5th November 2020. Pre-overclocked options should be available from PCS after that date. Any X570 chipset is suitable.

I'd reccommend faster RAM (3200MHz), and potentially 2 x 16GB if you run multiple 4K monitors or want to utilise RAM disks.

You'll definitely want an M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD from which to run Windows/games. 1TB 970 Evo Plus, 1TB 980 Pro, or 2TB Firecuda are good (i.e. fast) options. You can add a large capacity HDD and/or PCS 2.5" SSD for file storage.

If you're getting a wireless card, go for the Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 + BT 5.0 (it's worth the extra £11 over the cheapest option).

If you forego the Liquid Series, you can get the better components for a cheaper overall cost.

 

[Grumpywurzel]

What do you want the system to do?? Is this for a professional build or something else? What monitors are you planning on pairing with this? Resolution wise

 

[Jingo]

If you're waiting for the RTX 3090, you're better off with the Ryzen 5900X or 5950X for the CPU, available to order from 5th November 2020. Pre-overclocked options should be available from PCS after that date. Any X570 chipset is suitable.

I'd reccommend faster RAM (3200MHz), and potentially 2 x 16GB if you run multiple 4K monitors or want to utilise RAM disks.

You'll definitely want an M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD from which to run Windows/games. 1TB 970 Evo Plus, 1TB 980 Pro, or 2TB Firecuda are good (i.e. fast) options. You can add a large capacity HDD and/or PCS 2.5" SSD for file storage.

If you're getting a wireless card, go for the Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 + BT 5.0 (it's worth the extra £11 over the cheapest option).

If you forego the Liquid Series, you can get the better components for a cheaper overall cost.

Thank you, that's a really helpful and detailed answer.

Re. the liquid series, I've always liked the idea of it, but have read mixed things about it. I take it you feel it's not worth the expense?

 

[Jingo]

What do you want the system to do?? Is this for a professional build or something else? What monitors are you planning on pairing with this? Resolution wise

It's primarily for gaming, and I'll be capturing gameplay and editing videos etc. I don't think I actually need as good a setup as I'm looking at, but I'm future proofing to a certain extent.

Re. monitor, it will be an ultrawide of some sort, around 3440x1440. Maybe https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075JGKX59/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_pE0IFbHWX1YQH

 

[Mugenjin]

Thank you, that's a really helpful and detailed answer.

Re. the liquid series, I've always liked the idea of it, but have read mixed things about it. I take it you feel it's not worth the expense?

They have more points of potential failure and require ongoing maintenance to keep them functioning properly, which isn’t worth the hassle for me personally, and I wouldn’t be comfortable tinkering with it myself. They do look great of course, but so does ARGB lighting.

 

[Mugenjin]

It's primarily for gaming, and I'll be capturing gameplay and editing videos etc. I don't think I actually need as good a setup as I'm looking at, but I'm future proofing to a certain extent.

Re. monitor, it will be an ultrawide of some sort, around 3440x1440. Maybe https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075JGKX59/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_pE0IFbHWX1YQH

An RTX 3080 would be more than enough for that monitor, and far better value. Save the money and use it for a GPU upgrade a few years down the line, or when the need arises. The RTX 3090 carries an extremely high premium for a fractional increase in power that would be wasted, and by the time you actually require more power than a 3080 can provide, there would likely be GPUs far cheaper than and superior to the 3090.

 

[Jingo]

An RTX 3080 would be more than enough for that monitor, and far better value. Save the money and use it for a GPU upgrade a few years down the line, or when the need arises. The RTX 3090 carries an extremely high premium for a fractional increase in power that would be wasted, and by the time you actually require more power than a 3080 can provide, there would likely be GPUs far cheaper than and superior to the 3090.

Many thanks again.

So is something like this a better option:

Case
PCS SPECTRUM RGB MID TOWER CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core (3.5GHz @ up to 4.3GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £2,777.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[SpyderTracks]

Many thanks again.

So is something like this a better option:

Case
PCS SPECTRUM RGB MID TOWER CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core (3.5GHz @ up to 4.3GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £2,777.00 including VAT and Delivery

Can you include the configuration link at the bottom of the quote so we can edit it? You'd need to make some adjustments.

 

[Jingo]

Can you include the configuration link at the bottom of the quote so we can edit it? You'd need to make some adjustments.

Sure thing

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-overclocked/R9MezUzuSa/

 

[SpyderTracks]

This would be substantially better, you don't want to overclock Ryzen, it actually reduces gaming performance, has in built auto overclocking per core:

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE Case is really important to the build for airflow and connectivity.
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4) Placeholder, switch for the 5900x when available on 5/11
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB) Dropped RGB RAM as not compatible with the cooler
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE Data drive, no benefit to being SSD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) Placeholder, upgrade to Samsung 980 Pro when available on 1/11. This is the primary OS and program drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) Placeholder, also change to 980 Pro when available, this is a dedicated games drive so you don't have to reinstall if reinstalling windows
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler CPU needs substantial cooler, this is the best of the best on PCS
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING Cooler comes pre applied with high quality paste
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £2,674.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/sPcnKWRdaT/

 

[Scott]

Above is the stuff of dreams. If you'll let me spend a little more money I would advise switching out the second M2 drive for the 2TB Firecuda.

Games are big nowadays and with that budget you want the max. Between the primary and the secondary you would have 2.5TB of blisteringly fast gaming space which would definitely keep me more than happy

 

[Jingo]

Eh, what's another couple of hundred?

Seriously though, it's a hell of a lot of money. I came into some inheritance earlier in the year, and the person it came from was big into computers so I think would appreciate some of it being spent on a decent one.

Thanks for all your help everyone!

 

[Grumpywurzel]

It's always worth mentioning your budget, then the guys know exactly what they are playing with. Your initial build was £3.6k, so @SpyderTracks has already saved you £1k with his build. I dont imagine @Scott is trying to bankrupt you!

 

[Jingo]

It's always worth mentioning your budget, then the guys know exactly what they are playing with. Your initial build was £3.6k, so @SpyderTracks has already saved you £1k with his build. I dont imagine @Scott is trying to bankrupt you!

Absolutely. Sorry if it came across as having a go, it was absolutely not meant that way. I'm grateful for all the suggestions, and will implement them all, just wanted to show I appreciate it's a pricey build. I said originally that money was almost no object, and I actually expected for the suggestions to take it higher than the original estimate, so it's brilliant that I've been suggested a build that is less, rather than being told to get the most expensive everything.

You guys do great work helping people out!