Gaming PC help please

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Robert.gordon440

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Hey all,

Apologies if I’m not using the forum correctly but I’d really like advice on a gaming pc

Basically, I’ve been a PlayStation user of my life but now having played games with 60fps.. going back to 30 fps to play dragons dogma 2 is not a fun experience

I did email pc specialist directly and they sent me a build.. they then sent me some specs and I put it on Reddit and they said it was full of bloatware and wasn’t a 4k pc build. But i don’t know if I can trust Reddit so I’m turning to you lovely bunch :)

So basically I want to play games at minimum 60 fps in 4k and for it to last a good few years before I need to upgrade. Budget would be under £2000 if that’s possible but generally I have no idea

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Rob
 
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Robert.gordon440

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Yes I’m aware that you don’t work for them. That’s why I was giving for an unbiased opinion as you are techies from you all please for my request, as I was not happy with the recommendation from the official pc specialist team

Thanks

Rob
 
sck451

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I'm not sure what the bloatware comment is about. I would be interested to know what PCS suggested for you.

Here's what I'd suggest for a £2k 4K 60Hz build:

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS 2 ARGB GAMING CASE (BLACK) Good if relatively cheap case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.3GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5) Good gaming CPU, and for 4K60 I'd focus more on the graphics card than the CPU for most games. Also pretty efficient and easy to cool.
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6) Decent motherboard
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) Fast RAM, no bling
Graphics Card
16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - HDMI, DP, LHR A good graphics card for 4K60
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW) Boot drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW) Game storage drive
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Plenty of PSU capacity
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
DeepCool AK400 Performance CPU Cooler ZERO DARK Enough cooling for the 7700
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £2,010.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/NEXhsyaTz5/
 
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Robert.gordon440

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Here is what pc specialist recommended- what are your thoughts?
 

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The 8700G is an extremely odd choice: it costs £100 more than the 7700 and is slower. The 7800 XT is also slower than the 4070 Ti Super, so the build I suggested is much superior, I think.

I agree that it's not a build I'd recommend myself.
 
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Robert.gordon440 said:
Reddit users recommended I go for the 4080 graphics card- how come that wasn’t in your recommended please? Thanks 👍
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It adds £200 to the price! Could you cut off £200 from elsewhere in the build to get it to stay under £2000? Maybe but I think you'd make compromises it would be better to avoid. If you could afford £2200, it would be great, but I'm working to your budget!

Also, for 4K60, a 4070 Ti Super is a great card.
 
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Robert.gordon440

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Ok, which monitor would you recommend too please?

Also- last question I promise- in a few years when I need to upgrade this to roll with the times and new graphics etc- will it be a case of upgrading a few things, or a whole system overhaul? How future proof are these beasts?

Thanks again

Rob
 
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Well if you don't have a monitor already, I wouldn't aim for 4K60. I'd aim for 1440p 144Hz instead. It's quite simply a better experience in every way. I would only recommend 4K 60Hz if you already have it!

The above build would be awesome for 1440p 144Hz (or better). I'd consider the AOC Q27G4X at the bottom end of the price scale (it's £230), the MSI MAG274QRFQD E2 in the middle (it's £350ish), or the Alienware AW2725DF if you want to be a bit stupid (it's £700+, actually 360Hz, and one of the best displays in the world). There are plenty of options, though, far more than gaming-suitable 4K 60Hz ones!
 
sck451

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Robert.gordon440 said:
Did you see my question about it being future proof ?
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I missed it, sorry.

It's pretty future proof. Nothing is perfectly so. The way to get future proofing is to go for a system that can be upgraded. With this system you can upgrade the graphics card easily, and the CPU and RAM could also be upgraded in a few years with newer products if you find you need it: the motherboard will take at least one more generation of upgrades, probably two.

I'd expect it to last a good five to seven years, maybe longer depending on your needs and uses.
 
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I would expect this PC, unmodified, to be a good shout for five years. An upgrade to the graphics in say four years would extend that, or indeed rejuvenate it. And you could also upgrade the CPU and maybe the memory down the line to extend it further.

Ultimately the lifespan of a PC depends on what you need, what you use it for. But a solid platform, like this one, will set you up for a very decent amount of time.
 
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My last PC lasted 10 years with 2 GPU upgrades during that time. By the end I did have a CPU bottleneck in games, but the monitor was always the bottleneck over that anyway, so wasn't an issue.

I would say, any current AMD platform, considering for say a 9000 series CPU upgrade after perhaps 7 years or so, will EASILY last 10 years.

GPU upgrades are a given, you really need to consider one every 4 years or so to retain optimal quality settings in current games.
 
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