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tommy147

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Case
PCS PRISM-X ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6750 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
ASUS PCE-AX3000 Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) 2400Mbps/5GHz, 600Mbps/2.4GHz
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]

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Hello everyone.
I’m trying to assemble a Gaming PC that will be powerful enough to last for several years.
I'm not an expert and my budget is about £1500 (max £2000).

What do you think about the above setting (it's about £1700)?

Is the Radeon RX 6750 XT good for gaming?

I would like to have a Ryzen processor.
Should I choose a Ryzen with an integrated graphic card but less cache, or without the integrated graphic card but more cache?
I’m asking you that because I’ve noticed that the motherboard seems to have an integrated graphic card already, and I don’t want to add a third one… if not needed. Do the graphic card integrated in the CPU work together with the dedicated graphic card?

How about Ram and SSD?
Ram is 3600 MHz and M.2 are both very quick in terms of reading/writing.
I’m wondering if they will be too noisy and energy consuming.

How about the power supply and cooling system?
I have no idea if I chose the right setting.

Do I need a wireless network card or it is already integrated in the motherboard?

I know it's a lot of questions and I will be grateful to whoever will answer some of them.
Feel free to suggest alternative settings!
 
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TonyCarter

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tommy147 said:
Case
PCS PRISM-X ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6750 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
ASUS PCE-AX3000 Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) 2400Mbps/5GHz, 600Mbps/2.4GHz
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]

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Hello everyone.
I’m trying to assemble a Gaming PC that will be powerful enough to last for several years.
I'm not an expert and my budget is about £1500 (max £2000).

What do you think about the above setting (it's about £1700)?

Is the Radeon RX 6750 XT good for gaming?

I would like to have a Ryzen processor.
Should I choose a Ryzen with an integrated graphic card but less cache, or without the integrated graphic card but more cache?
I’m asking you that because I’ve noticed that the motherboard seems to have an integrated graphic card already, and I don’t want to add a third one… if not needed. Do the graphic card integrated in the CPU work together with the dedicated graphic card?

How about Ram and SSD?
Ram is 3600 MHz and M.2 are both very quick in terms of reading/writing.
I’m wondering if they will be too noisy and energy consuming.

How about the power supply and cooling system?
I have no idea if I chose the right setting.

Do I need a wireless network card or it is already integrated in the motherboard?

I know it's a lot of questions and I will be grateful to whoever will answer some of them.
Feel free to suggest alternative settings!
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What do you think about the above setting (it's about £1700)?
  • Can't say if the build will suit your usage, as you haven't given us enough info to say (monitor resolution/model, refresh rate, games you play, etc.)
Is the Radeon RX 6750 XT good for gaming?
  • Again, we can't say if it's suitable without knowing your monitor specs.
Should I choose a Ryzen with an integrated graphic card but less cache, or without the integrated graphic card but more cache?
  • The motherboard doesn't have an iGPU...the notes on the config page just means it has the external ports to support a CPU with an iGPU. As you're getting a discrete GPU anyway, you may as well go for the non-G version of the CPU.
How about Ram and SSD?
  • The chosen SSDs are good (i.e. smaller for OS/apps, and larger for game installs) - but if the 2nd SSD is just for game installs you can get away with a slightly slower (or larger for £30 more) 2TB PCS or 2TB Solidigm P41+ m.2 SSD
  • RAM can be reduced to 3200MHz as the timings of the 3600MHz kit mean the performance is about the same
How about the power supply and cooling system?
  • For longevity, I'd recommend an RMx 750/850w PSU
Do I need a wireless network card or it is already integrated in the motherboard?
  • The motherboard doesn't have wifi, so yes you will need that add-in wifi card.
I'd also recommend removing the Arctic paste, as the Corsair AIO comes with past pre-applied, but then the 5600 CPU will run fine with the standard AMD Wraith air-cooler (as long as the case has good airflow - I'm not sure about airflow on the Prism-X) - if you do decide to stick to an AIO cooler, then go for one of the newer/quieter Capellix models.

If you include your config link from your order page, we can modify the order to show the changes more easily.
 
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tommy147

Member
Thank you TonyCarter for your reply.

I didn't mention the monitor because I don't have one yet. I have a non-gaming laptop at the moment and never had a PC.
I play the most various kind of single player game (no online), like FPS, GDR, strategic, etc... from the lowest requirement up to wherever my poor system is capable of.

I'm thinking to buy a monitor with 4K UHD resolution, 144Hz refresh rate (maybe more), FreeSync (Premium Pro?) to work well with AMD cards. Don't know much about other monitor specs I need.

That's the link to the the config page

PCSPECIALIST - Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.

PCSpecialist is an award-winning manufacturer of high quality custom PCs & Laptops. Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk

I hope this help.
 
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That link is to the configurator page.
They want the link at the bottom of your config' page, with the spec's of the computer you have configured. They can then either advise you to change it, or implement the changes themselves. This link is in green at the bottom of the page with your configuration.
If you don't want a particular change, you can change it back.
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
tommy147 said:
Thank you TonyCarter for your reply.

I didn't mention the monitor because I don't have one yet. I have a non-gaming laptop at the moment and never had a PC.
I play the most various kind of single player game (no online), like FPS, GDR, strategic, etc... from the lowest requirement up to wherever my poor system is capable of.

I'm thinking to buy a monitor with 4K UHD resolution, 144Hz refresh rate (maybe more), FreeSync (Premium Pro?) to work well with AMD cards. Don't know much about other monitor specs I need.

That's the link to the the config page

PCSPECIALIST - Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.

PCSpecialist is an award-winning manufacturer of high quality custom PCs & Laptops. Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk

I hope this help.
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The 6750XT is a solid 1440p GPU, and whilst it will do 4k it will probably average around 50-60fps at very high settings, and maybe 10fps more at slightly lower settings. Knowing the exact game will make it easier to search out benchmarks.

Here's are some examples @ 1440p (from https://www.techspot.com/review/2462-amd-radeon-6750xt/)
RSE-1440p-p.webp

WDL-1440p-p.webp

TR-1440p-p.webp



...and the same @ 4k
RSE-4K-p.webp

WDL-4K-p.webp

TR-4K-p.webp
 
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tommy147

Member
Thank you for the benchmark. That's useful.
Some of the games I would like to play:

Batman™: Arkham Knight
Shadow of the tomb raider
Uncharted: legacy of thieves
God of war
Mass effect legendary edition
Red dead redemption 2
Machwarrior 5: merchenary
Dying light 2, stay human
The callisto protocol
Elder ring
Crysis 3
Dead space (the new one)
Halo: the master chief collection
Dune: spice war
Scorn
The outer worlds
Metro exodus
Days Gone
Sekiro: Shadow die twice
Baldur's gate 3
SpellForce 3
Desperados 3
Horizon Zero Dawn
Horizon forbidden west
Cyberpunk 2077
 
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TonyCarter

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Here's a site with lots of game benchmarks for the RX6750XT (MSI version though, but there'll only be 1 or 2 FPS difference) at the game's highest settings and @ 1080/1440/2160 HIGHEST to compare. It covers a few of the games you've listed...and you can add 10-20% extra to those scores if you drop from Highest/Ultra to High settings...and if you use/the game supports AMD's FFSR (similar to Nvidia DLSS) you'll see a nice boost too.

www.techpowerup.com

MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review

MSI's Radeon RX 6750 XT runs whisper-quiet thanks to a well-tuned profile that maximizes the efficiency of the triple-fan, triple-slot thermal solution. Performance is also good, making this an excellent choice for all gamers using the 1440p resolution.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
 
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tommy147

Member
From the benchmark I can see that for many games the frame rate drops below 60 FPS when running at 3840 x 2160.
So I guess this graphic card is not particularly indicated to play at 4k UHD, right?
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
tommy147 said:
From the benchmark I can see that for many games the frame rate drops below 60 FPS when running at 3840 x 2160.
So I guess this graphic card is not particularly indicated to play at 4k UHD, right?
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No, not at the highest graphical settings...but those settings are really only for people to brag about, they tend not to add anything to the gameplay.

For more FPS @ 4K (again, game & graphics settings dependent) you'd need an Nvidia RTX3080 or AMD 6800XT....but both will considerably increase the cost of the system...you'd need a higher power PSU for the 3080...so you'd be looking at an extra £300 for either.

...and of course, some games are optimised for Nvidia, some for AMD, some are agnostic.

If you've still got your config link available, please share it, otherwise you'll just have to play with it yourself to see what these config changes do to your budget.

For example, I've got a 5800X with an RTX308Ti and 'only get 70FPS on Cyberpunk with everything maxed (with the exception of ray tracing), but if I turn it down a notch I get 90FPS (and can't see any visual differences)...and if I turn DLSS Quality mode on, I get about 110fps (or 65FPS with ultra ray tracing & DLSS Quality).

At 4k and the same Ultra settings (on a 3080Ti), I'd probably loose 10-20% of the FPS...and still get less than 50fps if I put ray tracing quality + ultra graphics on...or 90fps with ray tracing performance and high graphics. Tiny visual differences can make significant improvement to the FPS.

BTW, the 3080Ti was bought with the intention of going to 4k monitor soon after, but nothing is available that matches my requirements (4k/OLED/32"/160Hz/16:9)...at around the £1200 mark...yet.
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
tommy147 said:
I linked my config few messages above. I link it again:

PCSPECIALIST - Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.

PCSpecialist is an award-winning manufacturer of high quality custom PCs & Laptops. Configure the AMD Am4 Gen3 PC to your ideal requirements.
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk

Anyways, I just want to say thank you for all the support you are providing and for the quickness of your reply.
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Thanks, but that's not the same config as your original post...it comes up as this:

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Six Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.4GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6600 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
128GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1100 MB/R, 600 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £964.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/DRtJaDvFss/
 
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TonyCarter

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This is about the closest I can get to a £2k 4k build...

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready! - has wifi, so no need for add-in card
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6800 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12 - or £37 more if you go for the RTX3080 instead
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W) - or £22 less if you have both drives at 1TB
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW) - or £22 less if you have both drives at 1TB
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET - same price as the 750W RMx
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER - tried with a few AIO coolers, but the configurator kept saying they won't fit with the GPU, so left this out
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,999.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/KMkh4zjXXA/
 
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TonyCarter said:
This is about the closest I can get to a £2k 4k build...

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready! - has wifi, so no need for add-in card
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6800 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12 - or £37 more if you go for the RTX3080 instead
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W) - or £22 less if you have both drives at 1TB
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW) - or £22 less if you have both drives at 1TB
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET - same price as the 750W RMx
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER - tried with a few AIO coolers, but the configurator kept saying they won't fit with the GPU, so left this out
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,999.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/KMkh4zjXXA/
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Just IMHO

Avoid any kind of hybrid drive like the plague in my experience, they are just notoriously bad and degrade over time requiring reinstall.

It may be different as a storage drive, but personally I'd always opt for a proper full fat drive.
 
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tommy147

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It seems interesting , thank you.
I've noticed that by changing the case I can add an advanced cooling system for the CPU.
I could go for a cheaper case and to add better fans.
Thanks A LOT for your advice.
 
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tommy147 said:
It seems interesting , thank you.
I've noticed that by changing the case I can add an advanced cooling system for the CPU.
I could go for a cheaper case and to add better fans.
Thanks A LOT for your advice.
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Case is paramount to the overall cooling potential of the build, cheap case + moar fans will actually reduce cooling potential, not increase it.

Good cases are designed far better with airflow in mind.

You want a good cooler AND a good case, you don't want to cheap out on either.
 
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tommy147

Member
SpyderTracks said:
Just IMHO

Avoid any kind of hybrid drive like the plague in my experience, they are just notoriously bad and degrade over time requiring reinstall.

It may be different as a storage drive, but personally I'd always opt for a proper full fat drive.
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Hello SpyderTracls,
Thanks to join the conversation.
I have an SDD+HDD on my laptop and I never had a problem with them.
How about partitioning a single SSD-M.2? I would like to keep separate the gaming stuff from the main storage memory.
 
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tommy147

Member
SpyderTracks said:
Case is paramount to the overall cooling potential of the build, cheap case + moar fans will actually reduce cooling potential, not increase it.

Good cases are designed far better with airflow in mind.

You want a good cooler AND a good case, you don't want to cheap out on either.
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That's a very good point. I won't forget
 
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tommy147 said:
I have an SDD+HDD on my laptop and I never had a problem with them.
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Yeah, there's no issue with that, I'm talking about hybrid drives which is one drive with a fast cache partition

tommy147 said:
How about partitioning a single SSD-M.2? I would like to keep separate the gaming stuff from the main storage memory.
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Partitioning an SSD is a no no really, you always want singular drives for each use otherwise you'll start to create bottlenecks.

One OS drive and a secondary dedicated storage / game drive is the best config.
 
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