HELP!! A good laptop needed..

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GeorgieWilson97

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Hello,

This is probably a boring one compared to all of the awesome gaming laptop requests...

I'm simply looking for a good laptop, that will stay consistent and last me a good few years, that is my main focus through all of this as general use and studying is what it will mostly be used for.... now I am also a gamer and in a perfect world I would also like a laptop that can run current games in a decent FPS, I'm used to Minecraft etc and all the easy running games but I'd really like to be able to play Player Unknown Battlegrounds on this laptop. If I am being totally unrealistic then please let me know! Ah yes, and I wouldn't really like to be spending anything much over £700... a price lower would be much appreciated!! (If the gaming side isn't going to work into this then details of a really good running laptop for a better price of approx £550, again anything lower would be great!) I only have one requirement and that would be that I need a laptop with a full keyboard with the number pad on the right had side as my studying is mostly numbers.

Thank you in advance!!

Georgina
 
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Oussebon

Oussebon

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You'd be looking at around £800-£850 for a laptop with a half decent dGPU that wasn't basically obsolete already - i.e. the Optimus VIII.

There's the Cosmos that can have a Geforce 950M but this is much weaker - it doesn't meet the recommended spec for World of Warcraft for example, and fails to meet the min requirement for a number of modern games. And it's not sufficiently cheaper to really be worth it from a value point of view in my opinion.

If £700 is a pretty hard limit you may want to shop around for an off the shelf laptop with a quad core i5 and a GTX 960M (weak but not as bad as a 950M), which you might be able to pick up for ~£600 elsewhere.
 
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GeorgieWilson97

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Oussebon said:
You'd be looking at around £800-£850 for a laptop with a half decent dGPU that wasn't basically obsolete already - i.e. the Optimus VIII.

There's the Cosmos that can have a Geforce 950M but this is much weaker - it doesn't meet the recommended spec for World of Warcraft for example, and fails to meet the min requirement for a number of modern games. And it's not sufficiently cheaper to really be worth it from a value point of view in my opinion.

If £700 is a pretty hard limit you may want to shop around for an off the shelf laptop with a quad core i5 and a GTX 960M (weak but not as bad as a 950M), which you might be able to pick up for ~£600 elsewhere.
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Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me on this! I had a feeling I would get a response like that... on the flip side, do you know what price I would be looking at or any suggestions for a PC which I would like to last a good 5 years, without the performance deteriorating. I want it to be fast basically, and again if it could run games then that would be a bonus but not 100% necessary.

Thanks Georgina
 
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Tony1044

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Asking for a machine - especially a laptop - that will last 5 years without slowing down is a tall order.

Unless you plan to buy something and then never upgrade any OS or software then ultimately as newer technologies emerge, the OS's and software will catch up to push them to the limit.

All of which is made worse because laptops generally aren't upgradeable beyond maybe hard drives and RAM.

To buy the fastest. most powerful machine today with a view to as much longevity as possible you'd probably be at least doubling your initial limit, if not more.

What you could do though, is buy something with a decent spec GPU and processor then look to upgrade to more memory and SSD storage down the line but still, as Ossebon pointed out, you're not getting much for your original £700.

You may want to check out everyones favourite tatt bazar, fleabay, to be honest.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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without the performance deteriorating.
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A PC's performance shouldn't really deteriorate - at least not in the kind of uses you're talking about. As long as you keep it dusted, don't fill the drives right up, keep the HDDs defragmented, etc. And don't have legions of programs you install over the years all running in the background. i.e. basic PC housekeeping.

A PC's performance will 'deteriorate' in the sense that programs, games, and your own expectations in 5 years time will likely be more demanding than today. It's neither cost-effective nor perhaps even possible to futureproof a PC to that extent.

Unlike with a laptop, you can actually upgrade the parts of a PC. So if you get more into gaming in a couple of years you could buy a fairly beefy new GPU and just replace the old one, unlike with a laptop where you generally have to replace the whole system. You can get a fairly cheap but powerful Pentium (similar performance to the i7s in ultrabooks/ thinner laptops) and replace it in the future with a desktop i7 if you wanted.

There are a few ways to play it, but possibly something like:


Case
InWIN GT1 BLACK GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core G4560 (3.50GHz, 3MB Cache) + HD Graphics ()
Motherboard
ASUS® H110M-R: Micro-ATX, DDR4, LGA1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 - DVI, HDMI, DP
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity
1

Price £662.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-home-office-pc/C70MZnNSrB/
 
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Tony1044

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Worth pointing out though, that that is not a laptop.

(Note...that's in case it wasn't obvious to the OP)
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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on the flip side, do you know what price I would be looking at or any suggestions for a PC
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I took this to mean a desktop but always good to be clear :)

If they meant a laptop then there's not much I can think to add to my first post in this thread.
 
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GeorgieWilson97

Member
Tony1044 said:
Asking for a machine - especially a laptop - that will last 5 years without slowing down is a tall order.

Unless you plan to buy something and then never upgrade any OS or software then ultimately as newer technologies emerge, the OS's and software will catch up to push them to the limit.

All of which is made worse because laptops generally aren't upgradeable beyond maybe hard drives and RAM.

To buy the fastest. most powerful machine today with a view to as much longevity as possible you'd probably be at least doubling your initial limit, if not more.

What you could do though, is buy something with a decent spec GPU and processor then look to upgrade to more memory and SSD storage down the line but still, as Ossebon pointed out, you're not getting much for your original £700.

You may want to check out everyones favourite tatt bazar, fleabay, to be honest.
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Hi Tony,

I thought it was a bit too good to be true when I originally wrote that post out! I have since decided to go down the PC route, as I think it will meet my requirements more.

Thanks for the response!

Georgina
 
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dragonz

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numpad+high level gaming = heavy laptop not good for a student.

invest on something lightweight so you can actually use your laptop as a laptop and buy an external numerical keypad, if not you can always buy a desktop.

That's my 2 cents.
 
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dragonz said:
numpad+high level gaming = heavy laptop not good for a student.

invest on something lightweight so you can actually use your laptop as a laptop and buy an external numerical keypad, if not you can always buy a desktop.

That's my 2 cents.
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The OP has already said he's looking at a PC.
 
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