i7-6700 VS i5-6600

jonbam

Enthusiast
Hi

I been looking on the pcspecialist config pages and it looks like I could of got a PC with a i7-6700 for only £100 extra if I had waited.

Jonathan
 

jonbam

Enthusiast
Some people here are now advising people to go for the i7-6700 for gaming.

I followed the advice from this forum and was told to go for a i5-6600.

Would of been nice to get the extra speed.
 

Rakk

The Awesome
Moderator
Some people here are now advising people to go for the i7-6700 for gaming.

I followed the advice from this forum and was told to go for a i5-6600.

Would of been nice to get the extra speed.

Well it does kinda depend on the budget, but many will still suggest an i5 over an i7 so that a better GPU can be chosen, and an upgrade in GPU will generally outweigh the upgrade from i5 to i7 for a lot of games - yes extra speed is always nice, but when it compromises other things it may not be worth it.

Of course if you know you're going to be playing high CPU games then the i7 will be better - but if you don't state this when asking advise people wont know :)

Sorry that you feel the forum mis-advised you but we can only go on what we're told, and also obviously not everyone advises the same thing.


Personally when I get a new PC I'll be going for an i7 - but then the game I play is very CPU/RAM bound so it's a no-brainer for my uses.
 
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jonbam

Enthusiast
I said it was for gaming, and I even suggested a i7 CPU and the people here said I didn't need a i7 cpu, saying it was a work station cpu.

my budget was approx: £1,908.00

Can my current cpu be upgraded to a i7-6700

I will have to return the computer to be upgraded.
 

Rakk

The Awesome
Moderator
I said it was for gaming, and I even suggested a i7 CPU and the people here said I didn't need a i7 cpu, saying it was a work station cpu.

my budget was approx: £1,908.00

Can my current cpu be upgraded to a i7-6700

I will have to return the computer to be upgraded.

There should be no problems upgrading, but all I'm saying is that depending on the games you play it may not actually make a much of a difference - are you playing CPU heavy games?
 

jonbam

Enthusiast
Ok looking on upgrading it via the upgrade service

to upgrade to i7 6700 cpu £268
H100i water cooler £109.00
£59 for collection

Total cost to me:£436

Is there any other costs I have not accounted for or any errors above?
 
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jonbam

Enthusiast
Also the computer box that was delivered to me is far too big to return the PC. The box also had a 27" monitor with the order.
 

Rakk

The Awesome
Moderator
I said it was for gaming,
Are they high CPU-usage/CPU dependent games though?
If they are not (ie. they are mostly GPU dependent games) then you may not see much difference (noting that most games seem to be GPU dependent), and in my opinion it would be a waste of 400ish quid

Also the computer box that was delivered to me is far too big to return the PC. The box also had a 27" monitor with the order.
You would have to contact PCS and see what they suggest, the machine must be returned in suitable packaging.
 

jerpers

Master
Without wanting to be shot down as one of those who have suggested the i5, for most gaming including at high resolutions, the i5 is fine unless the game itself is specifically CPU intensive.
For the replacement, it is quite possible to do this yourself. Most motherboards come with a chip alignment tool which should be in your welcome pack and it is a simple case of removing the cooler, cleaning the paste off it, adding the new chip, repasting and applying the cooler. You do not really need the water cooler and the one you already have is probably sufficient.
 

PeterW

Bronze Level Poster
Hi - I've been looking at getting an Octane 2 [ 17.3" ] - I've been looking at whether to get an i5-6600 or a i7-6700 and I've also been told that the i5-6600 is good enough but I've also been told to get the i7-6700 if I can afford it - the benchmark for the i5 is 7540 while the i7 comes in at 9962 , so a bit of a difference - there again when looking on the net the advice is ' Don't bother getting an i7 as the difference between an i7 and an i5 is usually about 10% ' .
Off the top of my head the difference between the i5 and i7 is around £90 so having to pay £400+ to change upgrade is a bit of a bummer - I wonder if you wrote to those very nice people at PC Specialist whether they could come up with a deal for you ? It may be worth asking anyway - a bit of goodwill never harmed any company did it ?

Good luck anyway .
 

SmokeDarKnight

Author Level
This video might give you a little more information.

This guy is comparing the i7 6700K vs i5 6600K Stock/Overclock Gaming Benchmarks, the ones your looking at are non-k (Not overclockable) but the stock readings should be similar. Also bare in mind he or she is using a Titan GPU. Not sure what GPU you have

[video=youtube;EhaB1dqYv_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I[/video]

In my opinion its not worth the upgrade unless you want to get rid of some cash. Also Water cooling is only really needed if your overclocking or if you just want some bragging rights
 

GeorgeHillier

Prolific Poster
Going from the i5 to an i7 isn't really worth the cost, for around the £400 you intend to spend it wouldn't be worth it. For the majority of games the i5 is more than enough. Rakk asked what games in particular as there are certain titles that are more cpu intensive and the i7 would then be worth it.

As for what other people told you I must say they're probably right that the i5 is fine, however I can't be 100% sure as, once again, it depends on what games you play
 

jonbam

Enthusiast
The nice people at pcspecialist have offered to upgrade my pc to a I7 6700 at the reduce cost, just paying for the new parts. :)
 

SlimCini

KC and the Sunshine BANNED
But that's still a ridiculous expenditure. You're going to pay cost price of an i7 and a water cooler (not needed), completely bin a perfectly fine i5 just to gain a tiny amount of fps? Why?!

Aside from feeling like you need it, do you actually KNOW you need an i7??
 

jonbam

Enthusiast
The main difference between an i7 and an i5 is the hyper threading technology which is better for multitasking.
I'm getting a special deal.
 
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jonbam

Enthusiast
I been offered a low price for the upgrade. I'm still discussing options with pcspecialist. I may decide to keep my current cpu?

Returning the PC is the hassle for me, so I'm still thinking about it. i.e. packing it back into it's box, waiting for it to be upgraded etc

Jonathan
 
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SlimCini

KC and the Sunshine BANNED
I been offered a low price for the upgrade. I'm still discussing options with pcspecialist. I may decide to keep my current cpu?

Returning the PC is the hassle for me, so I'm still thinking about it. i.e. packing it back into it's box, waiting for it to be upgraded etc

Jonathan

Yes you said that, but what are they offering you exactly? Previously you said you had to pay cost price of the goods suggesting they'd only discount the labour. And that still makes it very expensive for the very little gains you'll get. What would you do with a used i5 chip? Still seems completely uneconomical to me.
 

GeorgeHillier

Prolific Poster
Assuming you're getting the labour free and paying standard price for everything it's not worth it. A £300+ upgrade for what will be a very small increase in fps depending on game. There are only a small proportion of games which are heavily cpu reliant and they all still work fine with an i5.

You'd be best saving the money for a couple years time and buy a new gpu, since they outdate much faster
 
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