Liquid Series Build - Looking for Feedback/Help

[Griff0]

So im looking to build a new pc, i tried to keep the budget at £2500 but, i have increased the budget by choosing things that i believe would be more future proof.
I have posted a full specification list below, primarily i am looking for input on areas where i may have overspent etc.

Main things im looking for;
Liquid cooled
Higher end pc
future upgrade ability
something that should be good for the foreseeable future... 4+ years

Thank you for your time and help.

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 570X RGB GAMING CASE
Custom Liquid Cooling Kit
Liquid Series Mid Kit - EK
Tubing
Clear Hardline Acrylic Tubing - 12/16mm (With Fittings)
Graphics Card Cooling
EK FC Nickel & Backplate - For One Graphics Card!
Coolant Colour
Mayhems X1 UV Blue
LED Lighting
2x 50cm Blue LED Strip
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Eight Core (3.6GHz @ up to 4.0GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® CROSSHAIR VI HERO (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG SM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3100MB/R, 1400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON
Build Time
Liquid Series® Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Quantity
1

Price £3,115.00 including VAT and delivery

 

[Stephen M]

What are your intended uses? If it is a gaming machine 16GB RAM is more than enough, plus it is a simple upgrade if you ever need more and, as others have pointed out, RAM is very expensive at the moment. Drop the Seagate Hybrid, you have a good m2 SSD which will do all the hard work loading the OS, main software etc, the hybrid only have a small SSD cache and after that are standard HDDs, you would not ice any difference from the SSD part so a normal 7200rpm SATA HDD will be as good and cheaper.

Not sure of the price difference between the Ryzen and the new 8th gen Intel CPUs but worth checking out. Will leave rest to others as am a laptop user so cannot really comment on cases, cooling etc.

 

[jerpers]

For gaming, as Stephen said, the Intel will be better and probably more future proof.

Do you really want the water cooled for the looks? It is not incredibly easy to upgrade graphics cards in a custom water system. You will likely need a new water block and the connectors may not line up. You can get a decent AIO for the CPU and then get your own hybrid 1080ti to fit. You will achieve very similar temperatures for a cheaper price.

 

[Oussebon]

There are lot of ways to shave off £ without meaningfully affecting performance - and possibly improving performance overall as well.

As above, what are you going to use the PC for exactly?

If gaming is involved, what monitor are you pairing this with (resolution and refresh rate)?

 

[Adam321]

If you swapped to an Intel 8700K and a ROG Hero X - with the same spec you're looking at £2,850.00 inc. VAT - that's some decent money shaved off already. If you went down the 2133Mhz route at 32gb then that's £2819, or even 16gb 3000 = £2704 or 16gb 2133 = £2676.

That system should keep you gaming for 3-4 years. However, as pointed out above upgrading a liquid system is something you'd probably have to get PCS to do for you. A Corsair or Coolermaster AIO would also be very good.

 

[Oussebon]

Fast RAM can have big returns in some games:


But totally agree that 16gb is more than enough.

Would really help to give more detailed feedback if we could hear from the OP, so hopefully they'll get the chance to drop by the topic and loop us in.

 

[Griff0]

Thanks for all of your feedback (been at work)

the main reason for me wanting watercooled is the location of where my pc is, not brilliant airflow being a bit of a problem.
as for the recommendations on ram, thought about that today and i will swap it to 2 8gb sticks thanks though
I will change the hard-drive for something cheaper also

I am using the computer for gaming its what i spend ages on, was looking for it to run the new red dead redemption at over 60 fps

My monitor is https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013YIR5WU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Questions,

what would you guys say is better intel cpu or the ryzen?
do you think i can keep it quiet without water cooling?
would you change the cpu or gpu if it was you?

Thanks again for all your help looking forward to hear more!

 

[Oussebon]

The i7 8700k is the better performer for gaming:


There's no merit for gaming to the Barracuda Pro HDDs, certainly not proportionate to the high cost.

Your monitor is 1080p, for which a GTX 1080 is far more than enough.

For a pretty quiet air-cooled system, something like:


Case
FRACTAL DEFINE S BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache ()
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
--Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
2TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG SM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3100MB/R, 1400MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,719.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/Pg88df6awj/

 

[Griff0]

Big thanks to everyone for their feedback given me a bit to consider im going to have a think and reconfigure it

 

[Adam321]

Try making your Liquid Series spec again, looks as though the prices have been altered

 

[Oussebon]

With the OP's original config: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-liquid/sCY0jtQztN/ (I think that's right?)

It appears to be £53, or 1.7%, cheaper. Good spot, and great to see prices lower. But arguably not enough to tip the scales on making a liquid series a 'value' proposition