keynes
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Thanks for the link. I think PCS should provide more information on what are the pros of each kit as well as the gpu cooling. I am tempted to get a watercooled system but I feel confused by the amount of choice.
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Thanks for the link. I think PCS should provide more information on what are the pros of each kit as well as the gpu cooling. I am tempted to get a watercooled system but I feel confused by the amount of choice.
The difference between the two kits is that in the High kit it is one loop so the CPU and GPUs all share the same liquid in the system which will have an increase in temperature hence the additional radiator.
The Extreme kit however has two separate loops one for CPU only and one for GPU only. This allows the CPU to run at it's coolest possible temperature as there will be no additional heat generated from the GPUs and the same goes for the GPU loop. This also allows for the system to have two different colours for the coolant however I don't think it's on the website as of yet.
Hope this helps.
keynes
Multiverse Poster
Thank you. I sort of get the idea however it was more to do with practicality or whether or not is suitable for me. I still think the website could offer a bit more information of benefits from each component (how much more cooler, more/less suitable for overclocking)
Well if you have any questions you can direct them at me, I've done a lot of the research for the liquid systems and I'm the lead builder for them.
keynes
Multiverse Poster
Thank you. I sent an email to PCS, waiting for their reply. I though every PCS worker will be an administrator here?
keynes
Multiverse Poster
Cheers.
1) can the maximum hero and maximum ranger support 3 GPUs without a bottleneck?
2) what are the main differences between the GPU coolings? In which circumstances I would benefit from the EK plates?
3) Would there be a possibility to request the GPU to be overclocked?
4) if I don't wish to fiddle with any overclock (GPU or CPU), would you recommend the high kit?
5) would there be option to send it back to replace a GPU?
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The Hero and the Ranger can however the CPUs cannot. The 6600K and 6700K only use 16 PCI-Express lanes and any 3-way GPU config will divide this up like so: 8x 4x 4x which means that the cards won't be running at peak efficiency, I'd highly recommend choosing an X99 system with either the 5930K or 5960X for a 3-way SLI system. For 2-way SLI these boards will be fine.
I'm currently running tests on the different GPUs now as there has been a slight discrepancy in performance, as soon as I have the results I will update you.
GPU overclocking is something I've done at home however isn't something we currently do, I have discussed the idea with people and it may very well become something we offer soon.
Well we would overclock the CPU regardless unless you expressed otherwise, I'd recommend the High kit for a couple of reasons. The CPU block and the pump are some of the best, if not the best, in the world and out perform the Aquatuning equivalents that we use, because of the superior block higher and more stable overclocks are possible and I personally think the EK components are just aesthetically more pleasing.
When you say replace a GPU what do you mean? Change the card to say from a 980 to the new 1080 when it's launched? Change from the Aquatuning to an EK block?
Hope this helps
keynes
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I was in between the high or extreme kit. I notice the overclock on the cpu offers the same maximum as with choosing a non-liquid cooled system, I would have expected a higher clock speed.
Upgrading to the new range of GPUs when they are released, wondering if a new GPU cooling plate might be needed or if the upgrade is offered by PCS.
3 way sli is only available with the extreme kit?
Many thanks for the detailed explanation!
Right now just because of the launch we are only offering that however we are looking to push the limits on overclocking. I've done some tests and managed to get a 6700K to 5.1 GHz but it's not something we are offering just yet.
The upgrade will be offered by us, the GPU blocks are specific to each line of cards as the PCB (printed circuit board) changes with each new card so it wouldn't be a simple swap over unfortunately however we can accommodate for it.
3-Way SLI is available on the High kit, I just had a quick look to make sure and it is definitely available for both Z170 and X99.
You're more than welcome, happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability.
If you do want a higher overclock then it's something we can look into however to make it stable it may require a little longer testing time, I'll need to discuss it with some people on Tuesday when we resume production.
The extreme kit is definitely something I'd go for over the high if I was doing 3-way SLI. The temperature increase form the GPUs would cause problems for higher overclocks. Since the CPU would be on a separate loop it will be ideal for reaching those more extreme speeds. The only thing with the extreme kit that isn't ideal is we only offer the 900D however there are a a few cases I have sat in work that I will be looking to add to the site one I've done the designs for the kits
Yes with these systems being so delicate, transit is definitely something that won't be taken lightly. We've done numerous dispatch test and nothing has come back damaged however this isn't to say that it won't happen. To my knowledge, the bigger cases will be going out on there own pallet whilst the smaller ones will be delivered as normal. If there is an issue with damage in transit then we will look into changing the way they are dispatched.
As I say, if you want one with a higher overclock then we can look into it and possibly implement it. The GPU overclocking might be a little way off, with us just launching we want to focus on getting what we have right and then add/change what we offer.
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lifeguardsm
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I know this is probably a dumb question but how come there is only 2 HHD and 1 M.2, to my understanding having more HDD or SSD shouldn't make much of a difference
Many of the Liquid Series systems require a sacrifice of HDD bays to accomodate the reservoir, this can limit the amount of available HDD options.
keynes
Multiverse Poster
When choosing the 900D case, the configurator indicates that a pallet will be delivered as well. If there is an issue with the system or an RMA is required, how difficult would it be to arrange collection of the tower?