New Laptop or PC

[William2850]

I need help to make a decision of whether I should get a gaming laptop or gaming pc. I have a budget about £1500.
It is for gaming and i want to play Fallout 4 in high setting.

£1,538.00 This is the laptop that i might get.
Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 8.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
Memory - Hard Disk
1TB WD SLIM BLUE 2.5" WD10SPCX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive
480GB KINGSTON SSDNow M.2 2280 G2, SATA 6Gb/s (550MB/R, 520MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11BGN) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days

 

[keynes]

You could get silver warranty for £5, improved thermal paste and the killer wireless card

 

[gunsch]

This is what i would get:
Better thermal paste, network card, silver warranty
Dropped the ram down to 8 gigs as that is plenty for gaming and you can easily upgrade later, and exchanged the ssd to one of those fancy samsung sm951 ones with half the capacity and about a million times the speed, if you put your os on there (which is what you should always do with an ssd) it'll be up and running before you even thought about pressing the power button.... Almost. stays close to the budget and honestly i don't think you'll need half a terabyte of ssd storage

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 8.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
Memory - Hard Disk
1TB WD SLIM BLUE 2.5" WD10SPCX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG SM951 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2150MB/R, 1260MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ 1535-AC M.2 WIRELESS GAMING 802.11AC + BLUETOOTH 4.0
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £1,520.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/defianceII-17/mNmFxaCxIN/

 

[William2850]

It is worth getting a laptop with thunderbolt USB 3.1, thunderbolt 3 and which laptop have thunderbolt 3? I know there has been some intersting talk going on at CEX 2016 about thunderbolt 3.

 

[William2850]

This laptop set up any good to play games on high setting? My budget is about £1500 and it must have a good processor and a good graphic card and I want know whether should go with 15.6 or 17.3.
Chassis & Display £ 1,549.00
Octane Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
8GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 8.0GB DDR5 Video RAM, DirectX® 12, G-SYNC
2nd*Hard Disk
500GB SERIAL ATA II 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (5,400rpm)
128GB SAMSUNG SM951 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2000MB/R, 650MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11BGN) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS (1 x POWERED) + 1 e-SATA/USB 3.0 PORT COMBINED
Battery
Octane Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (82WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 230W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
OCTANE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MP FULL HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days

 

[gunsch]

The only laptop here on pcs that supports thunderbolt (via usb 3.1 type c) is the octane II pro i think, i'm too lazy to check right now, but you can click on a laptop and under specifications there is a list of all ports.
Although you don't really need a thunderbolt port unless you have a lot to do with apple devices. Usb 3 and especially 3.1 are fast enough.

Regarding the Octane:
1500 bucks sounds like a good budget for a gaming laptop! But the 15 and 17 inch octanes are more of a workstation than a gaming laptop.
You get a better bang for your buck with the defiance in terms of gaming. Why do you need a powerful processor?
Unless you plan to do some heavy video editing and/or 3d rendering both of the defiance cpu's are more than a good option.
Still recommending the spec i posted above, although you could change the storage amounts if you don't need that much or up the cpu to the i7-6820hk (a beast of a mobile processor imo)
In my opinion you won't get more gaming performance per dollar in a laptop.
Ask ahead if you want to know anything else!
Cheers.

 

[William2850]

Should I go with Defiance II 15.6 or Defiance II 17.3 i cannot make a decision :wacko:. Which one is better value of money?

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 8.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
Memory - Hard Disk
1TB WD SLIM BLUE 2.5" WD10SPCX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG SM951 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2150MB/R, 1260MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ 1535-AC M.2 WIRELESS GAMING 802.11AC + BLUETOOTH 4.0
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

 

[Rakk]

Should I go with Defiance II 15.6 or Defiance II 17.3 i cannot make a decision :wacko:. Which one is better value of money?

Well, its not really which is better value for money, it's which is more suited to your needs
If you're going to be using the laptop screen to game on (rather than connecting to another screen) then I'd say the 17.3" just cos its bigger and it'll mean its easier to see stuff on a bigger screen .
Though obviously a bigger screen means its heavier so if you're wanting mobility then the 15.6 may be preferable.

Though I've just noticed your initial question, and the answer is you will get a better machine if you go for a desktop over a laptop for the same price - though this does depend on your circumstances - does it need to be portable, do you have space for a desktop and monitor etc.

 

[William2850]

Just ignore my first qustion. I need a laptop because I want it to be mobile and able to take it with me on holiday and visiting people. I will use the laptop screen to play games. I used to playing games on 15.6 inch laptop for a long time, but some games and films i find it the screen was too small. I never did have a 17.3 inch laptop so that i would not know what the advantage and disadvantage is.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Just ignore my first qustion. I need a laptop because I want it to be mobile and able to take it with me on holiday and visiting people. I will use the laptop screen to play games. I used to playing games on 15.6 inch laptop for a long time, but some games and films i find it the screen was too small. I never did have a 17.3 inch laptop so that i would not know what the advantage and disadvantage is.

The advantage is screen size but also hard drive space, more space for 2.5" drives.

 

[William2850]

I will go Defiance II 15.6 inch because it is more mobile than the 17.3 inch one. Using this set up and I going with the I7 6700HQ because I think the i7 6820HK is not necessary to play games in high setting.

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 8.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD SLIM BLUE 2.5" WD10SPCX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG SM951 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2150MB/R, 1260MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11BGN) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity 1

 

[GeorgeHillier]

No need for the overkill SSD, a cheaper brand one would be better value, plus that way you could get 16GB of RAM which some games are slowly starting to need on highest settings or when modding games etc

 

[gunsch]

No need for the overkill SSD, a cheaper brand one would be better value, plus that way you could get 16GB of RAM which some games are slowly starting to need on highest settings or when modding games etc

Yup that ssd is definitely not the best bang/buck solution but it still has a good value, i don't think it's overpriced at all.
It's just great to see your loading and boot times rocketing through the roof and it's very comfortable to use.

16 gigs of ram on the other hand are straight up unnecessary under the assumption that it's for gaming only and not having something rendering in the background while gaming.
And when you have a game modded so far it needs 16 gigs of vram then the cpu most likely won't be able to hold up anymore, of course this depends on what games you play and what kind of mods you use.
Also: ram is on of the easiest things to upgrade later on, no need to get it now.

That specs looks decent, the only thing i would've thrown in there is the killer network card for the better drivers, more stable ping and so on. Although you only really notice the difference in competative online games like cs:go where a good connection is valueable. If you're not into that kind of games you're good to go.

 

[William2850]

Do I really need killer 1535-AC network card to play online games like WOW and what about the other 2 wireless card is there a big different between the 3?