Noctua Nh-u14s??

[Microskill]

Any of you have this cooler? Searching on google Noctua Nh-u14 beat any top liquid cooler, with the right case with a good airflow.
Any of you have this cooler? It’s worth buying? The case i got is a h500 coolemaster + 3 fans


CasePCS SPECTRUM RGB MID TOWER CASE

Change to: COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)MotherboardASUS® ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!

Change to: ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!

Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (4 x 4GB)

Change to: 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12

Change to: 8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP

1st Storage DriveNOT REQUIRED1st M.2 SSD Drive1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)

Change to: 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)

DVD/BLU-RAY DriveNOT REQUIREDPower SupplyCORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Change to: CORSAIR 750W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)Processor CoolingCoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler

Change to: Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal PasteARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUNDExtra Case FansNONE

Change to: 3x CoolerMaster SickleFlow 120 ARGB + Controller Kit

Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)Wireless/Wired NetworkingWIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0USB/Thunderbolt OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTSOperating SystemWindows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English LanguageWindows Recovery MediaWindows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online AccountOffice SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)Anti-VirusBullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer ModeBrowserMicrosoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)Warranty3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)DeliverySTANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)Build TimeStandard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working daysWelcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland

 

[edgetrading]

Noctua thinks it should be good enough:

https://noctua.at/en/cpu/AMD_Ryzen_9_3900X

I have not tried it myself, but have ordered a 3950X with it and will see what happens.

 

[keithbeaks]

Why did you change the firecuda to the Evo?

 

[Microskill]

Budget possibly given the cost increase of all those changed parts? Or maybe for the OPs uses the extra speed of the Firecuda may not be beneficial

You are right, only for gaming evo 970 it’s more than enough

 

[Microskill]

Okay...so, my previous post I got confused by the previous poster talking about the 3900x and 3950x and didn't realise you had chosen the 3800x for your build.....the Noctua is fine for that chip (I'd still personally go for a liquid cooler).

Your specs are looking good..only question I'd have surrounds the GPU and whether it is the right one for your monitor but that would depend on the monitor being used.

well i got 1080p with 144hz i want to use for highrank competitive game, in the future probably i will go for a 240hz monitor

 

[Scott]

For 144hz competitive the 1660 Super would be enough, the 2060 does offer some cushion though. For 240hz you're definitely looking at a 2080 Super though. Depends when you fancy the upgrade.

It's worth noting that most people can't see the increased FPS. It's a placebo for most people, good at loosening the wallet though

 

[Microskill]

For 144hz competitive the 1660 Super would be enough, the 2060 does offer some cushion though. For 240hz you're definitely looking at a 2080 Super though. Depends when you fancy the upgrade.

It's worth noting that most people can't see the increased FPS. It's a placebo for most people, good at loosening the wallet though

Well, on internet everybody see a huge difference from 60hz to 144hz so i want to try myself to see with my own eyes

 

[Scott]

Well, on internet everybody see a huge difference from 60hz to 144hz so i want to try myself to see with my own eyes

Like I said, you have been swayed of something that you won't be able to see, but it is of course your money. Like most placebo's I'm sure you will be convinced that you can see it but if you did the pepsi challenge, my guess is you would fail

 

[Scott]

Just watched that entire video, it was actually really fun viewing to be honest.

I hope that you took out from it that 60hz is not a good place to be for ideal gaming.
144hz is absolutely where you want to aim for (my guess is it's actually 100hz+ but 144 is the standard)
240hz will only make very minimal difference to you if you are under 30 and at the absolute peak of your ability.

The differences between 60hz and 144hz are there for all to see. Unlocking the GPU even with the 60hz made a difference so it's down to the timing of the screen rather than the actual frequency (we cannot see over 100hz anyway, it's all about timing and reaction). 144hz with a beefy GPU will more than have you covered. These guys are another level though, even Linus is damn good as can be seen.

At the end of the day, if you are finding yourself in the worlds top 250 elite, it may be worthwhile. These guys found themselves there at 60hz, as they have testified themselves, so they have something to offer that's different from most humans on the planet.

As one final side note.... notice that all the builds used AIO watercoolers and not air coolers..... there's a shock.

 

[Cullwch]

There's too much talk of fps and not enough credit given to ms. Of course, in a way it is understandable, because we have reliably reached 1ms at a very competitive rate, so what more is there to argue about it, but ms is the real MVP for gaming. Like others have said, 100fps is a good ballpark for where extreme diminishing returns begin to set in in terms of most peoples' ability to perceive and follow developments on the screen. I would never compromise and drop below a 144 monitor, but anything more than that is probably not going to result in an increase in tracking and response times.

The extra money is probably better spent on other peripherals aimed towards gaming, be it a mouse with a flawless sensor or whatever.

 

[Scott]

There's too much talk of fps and not enough credit given to ms. Of course, in a way it is understandable, because we have reliably reached 1ms at a very competitive rate, so what more is there to argue about it, but ms is the real MVP for gaming. Like others have said, 100fps is a good ballpark for where extreme diminishing returns begin to set in in terms of most peoples' ability to perceive and follow developments on the screen. I would never compromise and drop below a 144 monitor, but anything more than that is probably not going to result in an increase in tracking and response times.

The extra money is probably better spent on other peripherals aimed towards gaming, be it a mouse with a flawless sensor or whatever.

I cannot compete, I'm not even borderline close. I know what it takes to be cutting edge close as I've watched such players rip he absolute *insert expletive* out of me. I could have the cutting edge hardware, they could be running on smoke signals and I would be toasted.

Us mere mortals aren't even in the ballpark. Getting close to linus is doable, no doubt. You need to be a "near" pro gamer though to get there. That means...... no job. These people are elite, there's no 2 ways about it.

I could build systems around them though. IMO there's no 2 ways about that either. I genuinely believe in the market I could add FPS to Linus's build, and anyone else. Each to their own. Those guys are elite in their niche........ I know my hardware

 

[Cullwch]

I cannot compete, I'm not even borderline close. I know what it takes to be cutting edge close as I've watched such players rip he absolute *insert expletive* out of me. I could have the cutting edge hardware, they could be running on smoke signals and I would be toasted.

Us mere mortals aren't even in the ballpark. Getting close to linus is doable, no doubt. You need to be a "near" pro gamer though to get there. That means...... no job. These people are elite, there's no 2 ways about it.

I could build systems around them though. IMO there's no 2 ways about that either. I genuinely believe in the market I could add FPS to Linus's build, and anyone else. Each to their own. Those guys are elite in their niche........ I know my hardware

I don't disagree with what you say. I think the best way to increase performance stats will depend a lot on the game, though. Most people either compete in moba or fps games, and both of those genres require varying levels mental skills and knowledge.

For anyone serious about gaming, I'd recommend running some tests with some frequency, such as Human Benchmark, to analyse one's performance and even use it as a training tool, although muscle memory will often need to be developed in a lot of games specific to the demands of the game.

I find sniping in fps games to be a very good metric as well. Generally, sniping is the activity which benefits most from marginal increases in precision and suffers most from marginal deterioration in aim as well, and the Human Benchmark Aim Trainer is, essentially, a sniping trainer. Anyone who takes the test will understand very quickly that a lot of the performance comes from just your baseline biological response times (the average is around 210ms according to Human Benchmark, my average is at about 245-250ms, so not severely but noticeably below the common participant pool), but I score average to above average scores on Aim Trainer (not by a huge margin, but logically I should score below average as the Aim Test already includes an element of response testing, an area where I am below average).

The reason I don't score below average is because a lot of video game competitiveness comes from the kind of neuromuscular adaptation we mostly think of as muscle memory. That's it - the reason that pro gamers perform so well is because

1, They have good natural response times, but rarely "inhuman" reflexes that people ascribe to them.

2, They have very well-honed muscle memory (this takes boatloads of time, and skills are "unlearned" much faster than they are learned).

3, They specialise, play to their strengths and compete in meta ways.

4, They use the right techniques, including with the use of the right peripherals.

The latter point is perhaps the most acutely applicable to buying stuff here and putting a computer together. Mouse and mouse pad choice is often overlooked, and people try to crank more performance out of a pc. This mostly results in more foliage, clutter, eye candy, etc., and less emphasis on actually using settings to develop muscle memory and other neural adaptations. In my opinion, for people playing competitively (not necessarily professionally), the powerful hardware is in service of the reliable simplicity in games, because that's what yields performance.