Hello everyone, after reading thru a few forums its become apparent that theres genuine help here so ill gladly take some if possible. The title basically spells it out, i want a pc thats future (ish ) proof to play fifa mainly at full whack for the next 5 years or so, as u can tell by my vague description im a casual pc user thats fed up of xbox and ps4 and would welcome a return to pc gaming. i have no loyalty to a brand or preference as im not advanced enough in pc know how or intelligence to argue etc. I went onto the build ur own part of this site, basically put in nearly all top spec and it came to just short of £4000 . im sure i didnt need half of the stuff i selected almost blindly. Could i please glean some much needed help and info......many many thanks
Noob ish (i know sorry) needs 4k gaming pc to play fifa at max for next 5 years
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
Welcome to the forums 
I don't play FIFA but there's an article which benchmarks performance here:
www.notebookcheck.net
You won't need to spend anywhere near £4k to push very high settings in that game, even at high resolutions.
What monitor are you gaming on? What resolution and refresh rate? (if you have a monitor or TV but don't know the specs, the model number is usually on the back somewhere - post that and we can look it up)
If you don't yet have a monitor, what sort of monitor were you looking at getting, or no real preference at this stage and open to recommendations?
While FIFA is your main title, you'll also be looking at moving into other PC gaming too, yes?
And are you intending to stream your gameplay e.g. to Twitch?
Tbh, lack of loyalty or preference for brand is probably the smartest way to be when shopping for consumer electronics.
I don't play FIFA but there's an article which benchmarks performance here:
FIFA 20 Laptop and Desktop Benchmarks
FIFA 20 Laptop and PC benchmark analysis.
www.notebookcheck.net
You won't need to spend anywhere near £4k to push very high settings in that game, even at high resolutions.
What monitor are you gaming on? What resolution and refresh rate? (if you have a monitor or TV but don't know the specs, the model number is usually on the back somewhere - post that and we can look it up)
If you don't yet have a monitor, what sort of monitor were you looking at getting, or no real preference at this stage and open to recommendations?
While FIFA is your main title, you'll also be looking at moving into other PC gaming too, yes?
And are you intending to stream your gameplay e.g. to Twitch?
Hello again, thx for the reply ill answer as best i can. i wont be streaming at all, ill be playing on 4k tvs not a specialist monitor , i will branch out to other games which i would like to not worry about framerates dropping or it not looking the best it can (to an extent ) . Basically i want to play on a 4k (hdr) tv (LG UH850V) that supports everything onxbox 4k settings without any conflicts(im not a super techy as u can see but these are my best honest answers). i just want to know that when i buy a new game i can trurn the graphics up to top whack (for 4k tv not specialist monitor etc) and it look and play amazingly to someone like me not a pc guru. i like to turn every game up to the top settings possible and that last a few years before its out of date. I genuinely appreciate the help and have answered in my limited way as best in laymans terms as i can for now.....cheers
ill try to put the specs of my pc that ive had for many years but was great for gaming in its day....i dont know if u can then see what the modern equivilent is? to give u an idea it was on special offer from currys at about £900 so i guess itll be about double that htese days?
Processor
Processor
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Manufacturer
Intel
Speed
3.4 GHz
Number of Cores
8
CPU ID
BFEBFBFF000306C3
Family
06
Model
3C
Stepping
3
Revision
Memory
RAM
16 GB
Video Card
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Manufacturer
Chipset
GeForce GTX 660
Dedicated Memory
2.0 GB
Total Memory
10 GB
Pixel Shader Version
Vertex Shader Version
Hardware T & L
Yes
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Operating System
Windows 10
Service Pack
0
Size
64-bit
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Manufacturer
AMI
Date
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Sound Device
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Driver
Drives
DVD
hp DVD-RAM SW820
CD
hp DVD-RAM SW820
Drive 1
Size
1.8 TB
Free Memory
1.0 TB
Drive 2
Size
232 GB
Free Memory
136 GB
Drive 3
Size
16 GB
Free Memory
2.0 GB
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Internet Explorer
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Chrome
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Firefox
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DirectX
11.0
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Adobe PDF Reader
19.12.20040.17853
this may be a waste of time and space im not sure, just supplying as much info as i can. cheers again
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10DE
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1185
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Processor
Processor
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Manufacturer
Intel
Speed
3.4 GHz
Number of Cores
8
CPU ID
BFEBFBFF000306C3
Family
06
Model
3C
Stepping
3
Revision
Memory
RAM
16 GB
Video Card
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Manufacturer
Chipset
GeForce GTX 660
Dedicated Memory
2.0 GB
Total Memory
10 GB
Pixel Shader Version
Vertex Shader Version
Hardware T & L
Yes
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Operating System
Windows 10
Service Pack
0
Size
64-bit
Edition
Version
10.0.18362
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0809
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80.01
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Manufacturer
AMI
Date
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Sound Device
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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Sound Device
NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)
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Drives
DVD
hp DVD-RAM SW820
CD
hp DVD-RAM SW820
Drive 1
Size
1.8 TB
Free Memory
1.0 TB
Drive 2
Size
232 GB
Free Memory
136 GB
Drive 3
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16 GB
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2.0 GB
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Internet Explorer
11.418.18362.0
Chrome
77.0.3865.90
Firefox
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4.6.2
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Adobe PDF Reader
19.12.20040.17853
this may be a waste of time and space im not sure, just supplying as much info as i can. cheers again
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10DE
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1185
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VEN_10DE&DEV_1185&SUBSYS_6889103C&REV_A1
Driver Version
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
That's all useful, thanks
Your old PC was a mid-range 1080p gaming PC, with a GTX 660 - and you say was ~£900.
For a high end 4k gaming PC, you'd be looking at £2k+, though that's still a lot less than your £4000 build(!).
One word of caution - beware of talking about 'ultra' or 'max' PC settings. Some games have a few settings that don't actually add much to the image quality, but are so demanding that today's PC's can't handle them. But if you turn all / some of the settings to 'high' or 'very high' instead of ultra, the game looks basically the same and runs much smoother. So experiment a bit, and find the settings that give the best balance of performance vs picture quality for your personal taste.
I'll post a couple of options.
This is about the most you could sensibly spend on a 4k gaming PC:
Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs WIFI - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Get Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £2,759.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/FrCnC33VVh/
Most powerful gaming CPU on the market, most powerful gaming graphics card, 16gb fast RAM, high end case, motherboard, and CPU cooler, very fast SSD.
I'd add the RM850x PSU instead of the 750W TXm but the RMx is out of stock. 750W is way more than enough, but the RMx is a higher end model (even better quality, quieter). It's a nice-to-have.
Your old PC was a mid-range 1080p gaming PC, with a GTX 660 - and you say was ~£900.
For a high end 4k gaming PC, you'd be looking at £2k+, though that's still a lot less than your £4000 build(!).
One word of caution - beware of talking about 'ultra' or 'max' PC settings. Some games have a few settings that don't actually add much to the image quality, but are so demanding that today's PC's can't handle them. But if you turn all / some of the settings to 'high' or 'very high' instead of ultra, the game looks basically the same and runs much smoother. So experiment a bit, and find the settings that give the best balance of performance vs picture quality for your personal taste.
I'll post a couple of options.
This is about the most you could sensibly spend on a 4k gaming PC:
Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs WIFI - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £2,759.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/FrCnC33VVh/
Most powerful gaming CPU on the market, most powerful gaming graphics card, 16gb fast RAM, high end case, motherboard, and CPU cooler, very fast SSD.
I'd add the RM850x PSU instead of the 750W TXm but the RMx is out of stock. 750W is way more than enough, but the RMx is a higher end model (even better quality, quieter). It's a nice-to-have.
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
But there are cheaper options.
At 4k, the CPU you choose doesn't impact performance very much, because you are GPU-limited. So an AMD R5 3600 for ~£200 is going to perform about the same as a £500 Intel 9900k.
If you're not buying an i9 CPU, you don't need a really powerful CPU cooler. A mid-range one is more than okay.
You don't need a £200 case.
You don't need a super expensive motherboard.
You can get a cheaper SSD. It's still an SSD and games don't usually care much what SSD you have.
e.g.
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 460X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Get 3 Months of XBOX Game Pass for PC w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X470-PLUS GAMING (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £2,041.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/U9khUmgEGu/
Performance is going to be about the same.
There are some features you don't get, but you were probably not going to use those anyway.
And that's £700 in the bank for a graphics card upgrade in ~2-3 years.
Of course these are custom PCs. So you could get the R5 3600 spec, but with the 970 Evo SSD instead of the cheaper SX6000. or you could get a higher end motherboard like the X570 Plus. Or you could get the Intel i9 9900k build with the cheaper SSD, the Corsair 460X case, and the AORUS Pro motherboard to save £200-300 - an i9 9900k build doesn't need to be £700 more expensive, that's just what it looks like if you go all in
At 4k, the CPU you choose doesn't impact performance very much, because you are GPU-limited. So an AMD R5 3600 for ~£200 is going to perform about the same as a £500 Intel 9900k.
If you're not buying an i9 CPU, you don't need a really powerful CPU cooler. A mid-range one is more than okay.
You don't need a £200 case.
You don't need a super expensive motherboard.
You can get a cheaper SSD. It's still an SSD and games don't usually care much what SSD you have.
e.g.
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 460X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X470-PLUS GAMING (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £2,041.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/U9khUmgEGu/
Performance is going to be about the same.
There are some features you don't get, but you were probably not going to use those anyway.
And that's £700 in the bank for a graphics card upgrade in ~2-3 years.
Of course these are custom PCs. So you could get the R5 3600 spec, but with the 970 Evo SSD instead of the cheaper SX6000. or you could get a higher end motherboard like the X570 Plus. Or you could get the Intel i9 9900k build with the cheaper SSD, the Corsair 460X case, and the AORUS Pro motherboard to save £200-300 - an i9 9900k build doesn't need to be £700 more expensive, that's just what it looks like if you go all in
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As above, I wouldn't go absolutely crazy with the build. Be a little more reserved.
The 3600 would be my choice as there's an open door on the socket at the moment. The 1151 is all but a dead end. There's next to nothing in it for 4k performance and if you want to look at footy manager and things like that it will smash the processing. Intel is very niche now for me.
I would spend a little bit more though....
3200Mhz RAM would be my choice
I would always spend the extra on the better cooler (H100 RGB Platinum is an amazing cooler and provides excellent extraction to keep your 2080Ti cool)
Same with the PSU. The case and PSU should last you for at least another build. I would spend the extra and go with the RMx 850 when it's in stock.
The 3600 would be my choice as there's an open door on the socket at the moment. The 1151 is all but a dead end. There's next to nothing in it for 4k performance and if you want to look at footy manager and things like that it will smash the processing. Intel is very niche now for me.
I would spend a little bit more though....
3200Mhz RAM would be my choice
I would always spend the extra on the better cooler (H100 RGB Platinum is an amazing cooler and provides excellent extraction to keep your 2080Ti cool)
Same with the PSU. The case and PSU should last you for at least another build. I would spend the extra and go with the RMx 850 when it's in stock.
wow thx everyone , loads of help and info , also non biased opinions is brilliant. i think id better swat up a little and get back to u (im only using this site so will be back , just busy in real life , but will decide within a week i guess) . i think one suggestion said wait for out of stock item to come back in , typically im guessing its different for every part so ill debate and probably procrastinate until im happy. amazingly happy i asked for your help as im starting to actually picture the final build, whereas before it was going to be basically a pre build from currys.....or still could be i guess if everything i needed was in one? but the suggestions are cracking.....cheers, cya soon
samwil
Enthusiast
Never buy a pre build from currys, theres probably 1 in 100 gaming desktops on currys website that are ever worth considering. Alot of what's advertised is last gen cpu and GPUs at last gen release date prices. They're still selling 8th gen cpus on most of their pcs last time I checked when 10th gen are on the horizon.
As my general rule goes, if your ever going to spend atleast a grand on a desktop, go custom.
The attached demonstrates the problem lmao, that's on clearance.
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
Just to remind people weren't not really meant to advise on other companies' specs / products - for, or against.
I've seen a few people post specs from Curry's / PC World on this forum; generally PCS specs that PCS provide to Curry's to resell.
My usual reaction is to start typing a post explaining you can get the same spec direct from PCS for cheaper, only to find that when I put the spec into the configurators, that's not always true. And some of them are decent specs, not locked i7s on an H310 etc.
But as above, before buying anything anywhere, check you're not paying high prices for last gen's tech. Such as the i7 7800x you can (unfortunately) buy direct from PCS... if you're not careful.
I've seen a few people post specs from Curry's / PC World on this forum; generally PCS specs that PCS provide to Curry's to resell.
My usual reaction is to start typing a post explaining you can get the same spec direct from PCS for cheaper, only to find that when I put the spec into the configurators, that's not always true. And some of them are decent specs, not locked i7s on an H310 etc.
But as above, before buying anything anywhere, check you're not paying high prices for last gen's tech. Such as the i7 7800x you can (unfortunately) buy direct from PCS... if you're not careful.