Opinion on this build?

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Linoshi

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Hi guys! I'm an avid Tomb Raider fan and I am looking to get a gaming PC prior to the launch of Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Unfortunately, my current build struggled with Rise of the Tomb Raider at higher settings, which doesn't give me much faith for Shadow.

This is the build I was looking at purchasing...

Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB
32GB RAM
Z370 Chipset
480GB SSD
2TB HDD
Includes OS

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
SpyderTracks

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It would be very unwise to buy a 10 series card when the 20 series are coming out in 2 weeks with more performance and less price.
 
polycrac

polycrac

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Regardless of whether you go for the 10 series cards or wait for the 20 series, the level of card you are looking at would be wasted on a 60 hz, 1080p monitor. You'd be paying extra for performance you wouldn't be using.

I'd suggest waiting, like Spyder says (prices for the 10 series may drop, even if you don't go for the new ones), but I'd also suggest you build a new monitor into your budget (whether from PCS of elsewhere). Something like a 1440p, 120Hz or 4K, 60 Hz or similar. Otherwise, drop to a lower powered graphics card and stick with the 1080p (and save some cash for your next upgrade).

I recently went from a 970 to a 1080ti and it made little difference at 1080p. When I got a wqhd monitor for it, WOW, incredible difference!
 
Frank100

Frank100

Rising Star
Hi,

Based on your list of wants I would say 32GB is more than you'll need for gaming. If you do serious video or audio editing or a lot of database work you might need 32GB but if it is for gaming then it's pretty much money wasted.

I'd also suggest getting the RTX2080 over the GTX1080ti. All the signs are the newer card will outperform the current one, even with fewer cores.

A M.2 SATA storage chip is a better option than a SSD. The top M.2 SATA chips come at a bit of a premium but are four times faster than a SSD. There are M.2 SATA chips on a par with the more expensive SSDs but are still about twice as fast.

Here is a potential build you could consider: -



Case
NZXT S340 MID TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK/BLUE) ()
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
FREE PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, Battlefield 1 & More! w/ select Intel CPUs!
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready! ()
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 PCIe M.2 2280 (1000 MB/R, 800 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,948.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/9cbqj4fvEc/

You might find an i5 is perfectly adequate for the long term and this would reduce the price by more than £100.

The case I chose is basic but adequate. You might want to pick something very different in appearance.

Frank100
 
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Linoshi

Member
polycrac said:
Regardless of whether you go for the 10 series cards or wait for the 20 series, the level of card you are looking at would be wasted on a 60 hz, 1080p monitor. You'd be paying extra for performance you wouldn't be using.

I'd suggest waiting, like Spyder says (prices for the 10 series may drop, even if you don't go for the new ones), but I'd also suggest you build a new monitor into your budget (whether from PCS of elsewhere). Something like a 1440p, 120Hz or 4K, 60 Hz or similar. Otherwise, drop to a lower powered graphics card and stick with the 1080p (and save some cash for your next upgrade).

I recently went from a 970 to a 1080ti and it made little difference at 1080p. When I got a wqhd monitor for it, WOW, incredible difference!
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I'm also upgrading from a 970, were you happy with the upgrade to the 1080ti? Additionally, is there a particular monitor that you'd recommend?
 
polycrac

polycrac

Rising Star
I went for an Asus predator IPS WQHD, 144Hz with Gsync.

The IPS is impressive (my first one), but there is a little backlight bleed. If I were to choose again, I'd probably go for a TN panel - slightly muted colours, compared to an IPS, but faster refresh rate and could get the same size (27") for around £450, not the £550 I paid.

The Gsync is great, I strongly recommend it (or freesync, if you go AMD). My fps varies greatly but I only know becsuse of the counter, no screen tearing etc.

The 144Hz is lovely, but more than I needed: I can't tell the difference in pubg between fps around 90 in the cities and 140 in the less graphically intense parts.

The 27" 1440p is amazing! Not only a lot sharper than 1080p but so much more immersive. I was on a 21" before so was able to move to a bigger screen without losing any pixel density. If you stay at 27" when you move, you'll notice the better pixel density even more, I expect.

Like you, I came to this forum with a build idea that ignored the screen. People gave great advice and made me realise it was actually another PC component. A fairly important one too, that needs to be part of your budget!
 
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Linoshi

Member
^ Thanks, I'll definitely take a look at upgrading my monitor to compliment the build.


Frank100 said:
Hi,

Based on your list of wants I would say 32GB is more than you'll need for gaming. If you do serious video or audio editing or a lot of database work you might need 32GB but if it is for gaming then it's pretty much money wasted.

I'd also suggest getting the RTX2080 over the GTX1080ti. All the signs are the newer card will outperform the current one, even with fewer cores.

A M.2 SATA storage chip is a better option than a SSD. The top M.2 SATA chips come at a bit of a premium but are four times faster than a SSD. There are M.2 SATA chips on a par with the more expensive SSDs but are still about twice as fast.

Here is a potential build you could consider: -



Case
NZXT S340 MID TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK/BLUE) ()
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
FREE PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, Battlefield 1 & More! w/ select Intel CPUs!
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready! ()
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 PCIe M.2 2280 (1000 MB/R, 800 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,948.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/9cbqj4fvEc/

You might find an i5 is perfectly adequate for the long term and this would reduce the price by more than £100.

The case I chose is basic but adequate. You might want to pick something very different in appearance.

Frank100
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Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together for me. Your build is more appropriate for my needs and I think everyone is in agreement over getting the RTX2080 over the GTX1080ti.

Excuse my ignorance, I have never actually used PC specialist before. Do you order the parts and assemble it yourself or do they assemble it for you?
 
polycrac

polycrac

Rising Star
They'll assemble it and deliver it, ready to go and free of bloatware. If you want to upgeade parts in the future you can even send it back and they'll fit the parts - they keep a record of your build, so they know what is compatible.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
I would strongly suggest not placing any order until reviews of the new GPUs are released (14th September). Which is still almost a week before sales are live anyway.

Spending £700+ on a GPU without actually knowing what it's capable of seems unwise, even if you are fairly confident it will be the GPU for you.

Also Intel are due to release new CPUs possibly as early as September, so waiting for these would seem to make sense.

I haven't checked the pricing today, but last I looked PCS's prices for the RTX series were pretty high (possibly they're offering FEs instead of AIB cards?). In which case waiting for PCS to sort out their prices or buying the system without a GPU and adding your own one in sourced elsewhere could save a lot of £.
 
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Linoshi

Member
It seems like I've chosen the worst time to upgrade with all these new parts coming out. So, Intel releasing these new CPUs hasn't got a definite date? Plus, let's say I went with Frank's build how do you think going for one of these new CPUs would effect my budget?

polycrac said:
They'll assemble it and deliver it, ready to go and free of bloatware. If you want to upgeade parts in the future you can even send it back and they'll fit the parts - they keep a record of your build, so they know what is compatible.
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Thanks, that sounds great!
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Everyone was expecting October for the CPUs but as above some sites even had them up for preorder already so people are thinking September now
 
polycrac

polycrac

Rising Star
Linoshi said:
Would an i9 not be considered overkill for my needs?
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Possibly, but they are releasing a range. If you look again at that link, you'll see in the table the I7 and I5 also get a refresh, so as well as the I7-8700k, you could pick the I7-9700k. Even if you don't go for the new one, waiting might see some price pressure on the old one. There is always something new on the horizon, but there is a bit of a sweet-spot in buying dates coming up, where new CPUs and new GPUs enter the market almost in sync.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
i9 is a marketing term that doesn't mean anything except "It's an i7 that we want to make you think is really powerful, so we're going to call it i9". It may or may not have more cores than an i7 (there are i7s with 8 cores already). It may or may not have a higher frequency (there are i7s that are clocked higher than i9s). i9 is literally just marketing.

Depending on pricing it will just be a step up from an i7 8700k.

I would expect to see it in a £2000 gaming system most likely.
 
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Linoshi

Member
Unfortunately, my new PC had to be put on the back burner due to a number of reasons. However, I'm now seriously looking again and the below spec is what I'm now considering. (Thank you Frank100)

Frank100 said:
Hi,

Based on your list of wants I would say 32GB is more than you'll need for gaming. If you do serious video or audio editing or a lot of database work you might need 32GB but if it is for gaming then it's pretty much money wasted.

I'd also suggest getting the RTX2080 over the GTX1080ti. All the signs are the newer card will outperform the current one, even with fewer cores.

A M.2 SATA storage chip is a better option than a SSD. The top M.2 SATA chips come at a bit of a premium but are four times faster than a SSD. There are M.2 SATA chips on a par with the more expensive SSDs but are still about twice as fast.

Here is a potential build you could consider: -



Case
NZXT S340 MID TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK/BLUE) ()
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
FREE PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, Battlefield 1 & More! w/ select Intel CPUs!
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready! ()
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 PCIe M.2 2280 (1000 MB/R, 800 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,948.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/9cbqj4fvEc/

You might find an i5 is perfectly adequate for the long term and this would reduce the price by more than £100.

The case I chose is basic but adequate. You might want to pick something very different in appearance.

Frank100
Click to expand...

Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd just get eveyones opinions on the build here.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
So, this is a £2k budget for gaming on a 1080p monitor?

You mentioned you were going to upgrade the monitor, do you have a total budget for the new PC and the new monitor?
 
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Linoshi

Member
The 2K budget is stricly for the PC itself. The monitor is something I'd definetely be looking to upgrade at a later stage though.
 
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